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The Immortals – A Continuation of Myths and Legends


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Uruk from Mesopotamia was probably the first legendary immortal. He was believed to have been a “regular” individual who simply could not die. However, mythology suggests that immortals and observers have always existed. In this sense, Uruk can be seen as one example of an immortal observer for mankind.


Gilgamesh was a king of the city of Uruk. He supposedly lived 2000 years after Uruk the Immortal. According to some legends, Uruk lived at the court of Gilgamesh and he was even one of his teachers. Gilgamesh was the son of Enkidu and Ninsun.


Two Lives, Two Ways of Being



The tale of Enkidu speaks of nine immortal women who came to him when he was born. These nine women were the fates who made predictions about a child’s life and destiny at birth. After a series of good predictions from the first eight fates, the last one - the youngest (but the wisest) predicted that Enkidu would have two lives: one belonging to him in which he would act wrongly, and a second one belonging to her in which his actions would be characterized by righteousness.


The Immortals – A Continuation of Myths and Legends Ninsun


Fragmentary relief dedicated to the goddess Ninsun, mother of Gilgamesh. (Public Domain)


Also, the fate stated that she expected a great gift from the second life of Enkidu. She was right. In his first life, despite being brave, strong, and wise as the first eight fates had predicted, Enkidu made many mistakes and he messed everything up with both his kingdom as well as his personal life. Ultimately, with his kingdom in decay, Enkidu was on his death bed. Then, he asked for forgiveness from the wise fate who had predicted his first and second life.



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At that moment, the immortal woman appeared before him and she turned back time to the point when Enkidu was young again. In his second life, Enkidu acted with righteousness, he married Ninsun and together they had Gilgamesh, the great gift the fate had predicted.


The Immortals – A Continuation of Myths and Legends Enkidu


Possible representation of Enkidu. (CC BY-SA 3.0)


Sharon’s Wish



Sharon was an immortal in the Etruscan culture. He was said to have went to Hell and returned, and he is also known for being unhappy with his condition as an immortal. He is one of the very few immortals who had only one desire: death. Interestingly, in world mythologies, heroes who go to Hell and return can also be seen as immortals because they leave the world of the living without dying and they return it. The gods of ancient mythologies are immortal too. Sometimes, ancient gods are also regarded as immortal humans in disguise. The Slavic god Veles admitted to being an immortal but not a real god.


Vampires, Werewolves, and the Church



Vampires are one example of immortal mythological beings. There is a theory that stories of such creatures was made up by real immortals in order to keep their own existence a secret. Taulreus supported this idea in his book Gheestelycke Sermoonen. Mythological beings such as vampires and werewolves with their terrifying images are said to distract people from the idea of the real existence of immortals as normal humans.



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In the past, the Church prohibited and tried to destroy all books that discussed immortals in a physical form. Also, alchemists have been hunted down and persecuted because they were searching for the Philosopher’s Stone, a legendary substance which can supposedly be used to make the elixir of life.


The Immortals – A Continuation of Myths and Legends The-Alchymist


‘The Alchymist, in Search of the Philosopher's Stone’ by Joseph Wright of Derby, 1771. (Public Domain)


Later Legends



Gheestelycke Sermoonen speaks of a young mercenary who entered a band of mercenaries. In a battle, the young man witnessed the chief of the band being killed. Before dying, the chief left the young man in charge. In time, the man grew old, so he retired to a city somewhere around Egypt.


One day while going to the marketplace, the now old man met the former chief of the band of mercenaries whom he had thought to be dead. The man was very much alive and he looked just the same as the other man has known him so long ago. The old man asked his former commander if he was an immortal. The immortal disclosed his identity and told his old friend that he had fulfilled his destiny.


Another well-known immortal is the Count of Saint Germain, however, he is one of the immortals who appears quite late in history. Nicolas Flammel is another of the latecomers, a man who is said to have found the Philosopher’s Stone and used it to make the elixir of life in order to attain immortality.


The Immortals – A Continuation of Myths and Legends Saint-Germain


An eye picture by Charles Sindelair, first published in 1935 for use in the Saint Germain Foundation. (Public Domain)


Many of the legends and myths of the world are full of stories about immortals. There are also various types of immortals. Some are said to be born immortals, while others obtain this status as alchemists discovering the Philosopher’s Stone and the elixir of immortality. How true are the stories about immortals? Could the tales have actually been made up by real immortals in order to cover up their existence? The answer may never be known.


Top image: Images representing immortality. Gnostic Warrior


By Valda Roric

References:



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PostSubject: Re: The Immortals – A Continuation of Myths and Legends   The Immortals – A Continuation of Myths and Legends I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 08, 2016 10:20 pm

Remember we were talking about Lucus aka Lykos, who i believe is also Tithonus and Aeacus? Well if anyone is Gilgamesh it’s got to be him (although i’m not done looking into it). Gilgamesh is known for not leaving the women alone. He “leaveth no maid to her mother, nor daughter to hero, nor a spouse to a husband.” Let me tell you, i’m working on the genealogy of these people and this guy really messes up the family tree. It’s absolutely painstaking to unravel. Like how a lady can be married to her uncle whose brother is also her step-son ... crazy stuff.

So anyway, as to the immortals, this is how i see it: The people who made it through Noah’s flood had better genetics. The atmosphere was different before the flood and there was much more oxygen. After the flood there was less oxygen and radiation from the sun caused damage, among other things. So the first generation and a few after were genetically superior to those that came later and they lived much longer too. Thus “immortal” or so it seemed to the later generations.

Here’s what i have on Uruk: i believe they were most likely from the family of Elam just to the east of Arphaxad because that’s where they lived. It’s written in the book of Jasher that they intermarried.

i have him as Ur aka Ara or Nanna Suen Sin, the moon god, and a few other names. Ur was the son of Kesed aka Enlil or Utu. i say this because “Ur the son of Kesed built the city of Ara of the Chaldees, and called it after his own name and the name of his father. (Ur-Kasdim) They made idols and graven images. This is the city Abraham came from.

This is what i have on Ur-Kasdim: Ara - Aratta - Ararat - RRT (no vowels) - Ururtu (get it? Ur-Utu) - Kingdom of Van - Biai, Biainili-Urutu.

Shem > Arphaxad > Salah > Eber > Peleg, Joktan > Reu

Salah married Mu’ak, Ur’s sister. Reu married Ur’s daughter Ara or Ora and oh what a story goes with that.


Hope you liked that. Blessings to all!
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