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PostSubject: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 6:43 am

http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/04/why-did-trump-really-go-ballistic-and-commit-a-war-crime-in-syria/

Is what we're witnessing an American agenda?  It is if we remember Trump's campaign commitment to Israel,  because he's working the Israeli agenda hard.

I have trouble labeling it Zionist in a derogatory way, as the Bible shows it to be God's agenda as well.  Maybe we have to work out our understanding of that as The Levant is Greater Israel.

But if Trump is in fact counseled by Evangelicals, who does not know that the road to this peace is war?   Dr. Robert Jeffress has said he's spent time with the President. He certainly knows prophecy and preaches it well.
And if God has said 'NOW', then who could think to delay it?


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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 9:25 am

The article presents it as a more sinister plan.  But, Genesis mentions the same Levant that Herzl who founded modern day Zionism called on for Israel to encompass.  Of course, that would encompass an area from the banks of the Nile all the way to the Euphrates which includes Jordan, Lebanon, parts of Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.  The only way this would happen would require war.  A big war.  Are the secular agendas of Zionism necessarily driven by the same goals as the biblical intentions?  That's the question.   That's why Zionism is so divisive to so many.  I think the goals and the means of achieving their goals are well-hidden and what seems to be an honorable motive is not always true.  The hard part for me and everyone else is knowing what is really going on behind the closed doors of the powerful Zionists in business and politics.  There's always smokescreens and propaganda for the masses and it can be hard to filter. The question is, are the goals of the powerful Zionist the same as the desires of God or are they purposely using the words in the Torah as a means to achieve their own goals.  We may not ever know until the events take place.... if then.  Their influences on our leaders cannot be underestimated, that's for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 11:23 am

I don't disagree with that.  And truthfully, I didn't finish the article. Is that terrible?  I still have a problem with criticism of Israel. 
But I do believe God oversees the timing of all that He fulfills of His Word.
And I think we can recognize each brick as it falls into place at this point.

I find no fault for the Jews for seeking a homeland, and choosing their ancestral homeland.
Originally 'Zionism' meant only the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel.

And no surprise that the USURPER came immediately to steal what God meant for His people, even to rule over them, and eventually be worshipped by them as their god (which we will witness, but from the balcony of Heaven, I hope).

So now Zionism (and Jew) are dirty words, and the cause of the world's problems (to the eyes of the WORLD-not the Church).
(I'll just name it Rothschild, et.al.)
Of course it's satan sitting over the land that is the 'dirty' thing.

 You asked, "Are the secular agendas of Zionism necessarily driven by the same goals as the biblical intentions?"

No. As the 'trickster', Satan's goals are in direct opposition to God's, of course-EVEN AND WHEN they end up at the same place. 
We-they can't avoid the wars that are coming.  It is Written.

Making the distinction of 'people of the world' and 'people of the Spirit', who among the worldly will ever understand?  Already most do not.

I really thought we were just going to stay stuck in the downward spiral of oppression and death by despair and indignation till the Lord came and got us.  I never expected him to raise up a Trump, who is so thoroughly on the side of Israel and the Church, and against the enemy.
If he uses the enemy to get the job done?  Well, that's a very God-like plan.

Hitler wasn't enough to sway the world, Isis isn't enough to sway the world.  What's coming CERTAINLY will not.  It does seem like the door is closing.  God said, Let those who are blind, be blind still.
But maybe I'm wrong again, and God will soften the the hearts and open the eyes and ears of lost souls.


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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 11:25 am

I might add, what worries me is I don't see the shadow government, Deep State or the military industrial complex, or whatever term you choose to call it, weakening under the Trump administration.  If a politician ever nailed it, it was Eisenhower in his "military industrial complex" speech that he warned against before he left office.  What feeds this beast?..... it's war driven by the propaganda of fear, whether imaginary or real.  Trump's budget is feeding this beast, but we all knew that it would continue, whoever was elected and placed in office.  

An interesting article is this IMO: 

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=34801
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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 11:41 am

rawblues wrote:
I might add, what worries me is I don't see the shadow government, Deep State or the military industrial complex, or whatever term you choose to call it, weakening under the Trump administration.  If a politician ever nailed it, it was Eisenhower in his "military industrial complex" speech that he warned against before he left office.  What feeds this beast?..... it's war driven by the propaganda of fear, whether imaginary or real.  Trump's budget is feeding this beast, but we all knew that it would continue, whoever was elected and placed in office.  

An interesting article is this IMO: 

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=34801
Don't mean to monopolize the conversation here, but I agree again...the mil-industrial complex is prospering.  But knowing the wars are coming, is
this a bad thing?  It was sounding like Obama left us as sitting ducks.
At the least I don't believe we're arming the enemy anymore.
(time will tell).   Seems as though we've armed everyone in the M.E. now to the point where they could do each other in nicely, without our having to do much more.
(Islamic ME)


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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 11:53 am

Yes, the M.E. is where we should all be watching.  Money and religion. Religion as a means to make money.  Jesus showed us.... what was, still is.

"Making a whip of cords, he drove all of them out of the temple, both the sheep and the cattle. He also poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables.He told those who were selling the doves, ‘Take these things out of here! Stop making my Father’s house a market-place!’ - John 2:15,16


Putting it this way Dove.....The Middle East is still today the main market-place for the world's money changers.  What was, still is.
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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 12:04 pm

Dove wrote:
 But knowing the wars are coming, is
this a bad thing?  

Well, that's an interesting question and can be viewed in more than one way.
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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 12:08 pm

like some of you, i am cautious about the 1948 restoration of Israel......it just does not seem to be the way the bible describes it to happen....i didn't say that its not the regathering of the bible, i am just suspicious of zionism and how the nation of Israel was founded.....i am always reminded that Israel was a PEOPLE long before it had a piece of land to live on.....i know that i don't have to elaborate, because i see some of you are as cautious as i am....i'm not going all texe marrs just yet, but i do know the history of the Khazarian  "jews" of europe and the subsequent arrival of the rothchilds,rockefellers, morgan- thals, carnegy's, etc and the their  empires......this is something that i do not want to be wrong on
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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 4:51 pm

@michael371. DNA. As far as i can figure, Y-DNA haplogroup J (men) should be from Japheth. It has very close ties to a group that is the earliest known in northern Europe. Also i question the matrilineal thing, unless of course your female ancestors were conceived in a high tower.
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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 8:34 pm

Lovisa wrote:
@michael371. DNA. As far as i can figure, Y-DNA haplogroup J (men) should be from Japheth. It has very close ties to a group that is the earliest known in northern Europe. Also i question the matrilineal thing, unless of course your female ancestors were conceived in a high tower.
its about to get above my paygrade, but i don't think it would be from europe:

darn, i'll have to post a link...i tried to copy and paste and it went all crazy when i tried to paste it here....i am going to say that the abrahamic DNA through jacob and his wives, have little to do with europe....may be wrong, and it won't be the first time

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Haplogroup_J_(Y-DNA)
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PostSubject: Re: Paving the way to Armageddon   Wed May 24, 2017 9:58 pm

i agree that Abrahamic DNA (Shem's line) was most likely not the earliest settlors of northern Europe. History says that's where Japheth's sons settled, and those Japhethites' closest relations are the Y-DNA J people who settled around the Mediterranean.

My point was that there are a lot of Y-DNA J people who claim to be Jewish and that's ok but it doesn't appear to me that they come from Abraham's line. Abraham's line should be more closely related to R1a or R1b like the other known Shemites to the east (where Abraham came from).
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