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PostSubject: we are missing something   Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:29 pm

i have been doing this rabbithole stuff for a long time, getting close to 40 years to be exact, and right now, i am a bit overwhelmed by all of this...Are we being played and being setup to look at the left hand while the right hand hides the money?....there are things that just don't make sense......i always try to back off and look at the big picture, using scripture as a basis for the research, and to help me to understand the pattern of events....i can't see the big picture, but i have read and heard a few things that MAY indicate that we are close to the 70th week of Daniel prophecy and some actual words and phrases have been used by completely secular sources that are found in the book of the revelation of Jesus Christ....more events have to happen before any of us can start to piece this puzzle together, but the events from the land of Ishmael have my attention.   Is the king of the south Egypt or is it ancient Arabia?....king of the north? is it ancient Persia?....interesting that they are mortal enemies and are currently sabre-rattling....don't forget about ole Esau, either....strange and perilous times we live in
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PostSubject: Re: we are missing something   Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:48 am

michael371 wrote:
i have read and heard a few things that MAY indicate that we are close to the 70th week of Daniel prophecy

Ya think? It looks like it to me too. Smile

michael371 wrote:
Is the king of the south Egypt or is it ancient Arabia?....

To the best of my knowledge it was Egypt in the past. i believe we are dealing in types and the nation that best fits the Egypt type (in Ezekiel 29+) today is the US but they aren't the king of the south.

i see the US as Babylon (1) in Jeremiah 50-1, sometimes as Jacob, and sometimes as Greece. The US is not south but in Daniel where they speak of the king of the south, i see the US as Greece. If that's true it will fall shortly after taking out Persia and just before the rise of a vile person. i got that from certain synchronicities between the fall of Babylon in Jeremiah and text in Daniel 11.

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king of the north? is it ancient Persia?....interesting that they are mortal enemies and are currently sabre-rattling....

In Daniel i think Persia is Iran but the modern-day leopard would be Germany and the attached wings of a fowl would be France, the strongest of the EU nations. Combined with Russia and the lion, they would be a powerful force. I see them as a possible Babylon 2 (after the US's Babylon 1's downfall).

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don't forget about ole Esau, either....strange and perilous times we live in

Esau. i'm thinking Italy and Spain for the most part but in Obadiah's fall of Edom they speak of him as being "small among the heathen", "who dwells in the clefts of the rocks, whose habitation is high". Who does that sound like?
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PostSubject: Re: we are missing something   Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:00 am

agree about baylon but disagree with you on everything else,lovisa...sorry, but it doesn't fit scripture.   documented history tells us that what we know as saudi arabia is where the descendants of ishmael are.....they are exactly how God said that they would be....remember that esau is the twin of jacob, so they would have a very close resemblance to jacob....remember that jacob and mama stole esaus birth rite...lovisa, stop and think on this today ....esau and jacob look alike, one stole the others right to rule the world...now, they made up later on because jacob was afraid esau would kill him and gave him a huge financial blessing so he wouldn't.....lovisa, this is happening today, with the NWO involvement into socio-political/financial "kingdoms"....do this today, if you have time, go back and read the abraham/isaac/jacob/ishmael/esau story and place them into todays news....see what i'm saying.....those people in the land of Israel, or most of them, but not all, are khazarians, and it is my conclusion that they are esau, and have "tricked" the world into giving them their birth rite back...most folks think that what we know as jordan is esau.....the territorial Israel?   i think so because abraham stepped off a very large area that included the entire region of jordan, not just that little land strip on the mediterranean.....place that ancient situation into the world of today, knowing what you know about the financial/political/financial world system and who controls it....interesting to say the least....i have to go pick turnip greens for a friend,now
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PostSubject: Re: we are missing something   Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:42 am

I have a lot of suspicion regarding Daniel 11. The entire book itself is out of chronological order according to the dates at the intro. One thing is for sure, dan 12 either follows after dan 10 or a missing chapter, and 11 is a stand alone chapter. ( You can tell by by the beginning and end of each chapter and how they do not transition properly to the next.) There are many other chapters that show up in the Apocrypha. What's unique about Dan 11 is how unusually precise it is regarding Antiochus up to a point, and from there it diverges against the historical record. It's very possible this was written as hopeful propoganda during those wars to encourage the Jews that salvation was coming. It was quite common for a rabbi  to write new books. The 'abomination of desolation' still occurs in chapter 7 iirc ( sorry on phone) so that theme remains even if chapter 11 fails. In fact 7 has a much more interesting use, on "the wing of abomination"...very curious that the word is singular. If he arrives on a ufo that would be a singular wing of abomination.
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PostSubject: Re: we are missing something   Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:59 am

sansanoy, you bring up an interesting point....this is THEORY, so there is no basis for discussion from a scriptural point, except for maybe types and shadows, so i AM NOT proclaiming this theory as fact or even that i believe it, but it is a possibility....could the "strong delusion" be the false messiah, as an orchestrated false flag, returning as an benevolent "savior" from another planet?....an alien savior?....that has long been one of my contemplatory possibilities....i am not going to try to twist any scriptures to make this work, but there sure is some room to make this theory fit, although i don't think this will be the case
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