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Santa Is Not Coming and the Deep State Is Still Intact


I have been waiting patiently on the sidelines and quietly telling the American people that the Deep State is not defeated. I have been patiently waiting for this false narrative to disintegrate. However, the fanatical obsession with “Q” is not dissipating. One website is dominated by this disinformation despite the fact that there is not one shred of proof that a supposed thousands of secret indictments of high profile Deep Staters has happened.
When I publish the following, I will be looked upon as the scrooge that stole Christmas. People want to believe so badly that the good guys are winning and the Deep State is finished, that they will believe anything, even some disinfo character named “Q” who is telling the public what they want to hear, namely, the end is near for the Deep State. Yet, there is not one word that he/she says that is proven. Please show me how this Q character has been correct…. I am waiting and very much wanting to believe…… (crickets chirping).
The Deep State is finished. All of their leaders have a cell waiting for them at GITMO. When the Arizona National Guard was assigned to GITMO, it was a sure sign that some unknown, and  unproven character named Q was correct and that the Deep State was in real trouble. And then I woke up and rediscovered that Attorney General (Benedict Arnold) Jeff Sessions has banned the medical use of marijuana so that the Deep State does not have its drug dealing empire threatened by legal competition. And of course, Sessions must maintain the world’s largest prison population, through the mass arrests of harmless pot smokers, in order that  the Deep State owners of private prisons (eg George H. W. Bush), can maintain their profits by putting the casual marijuana and medical marijuana user in prison. If there ever was a Deep State ambassador to the visible government, it is Jeff Sessions. And with a Deep State Attorney General, we are supposed to believe that the Deep State is defeated? I am on the record, in a previous podcast calling for the removal of Jeff Sessions as Attorney General and that is just over the medical mariuana issue. I am preparing a following up article and will be detailing more significant reasons why Sessions should be gone. And while there is a Jeff Sessions, who is no different than Loretta Lynch(mob), sitting in the Attorney General’s seat, there is no defeat of the New World Order, no defeat of the Deep State; There is only defeat, despair and treason against the people of the United States.
It was child-like fantasy thinking to believe that tthe Deep State was going to be defeated in one fell swoop. The take-down of the Deep State apparatus has to happen by removing one brick at a time and this process is likely going to be generational and will extend far beyond the Trump administration. This is one of the reasons why Trump is not already dead. The Deep State knows they have time to deal with this populist threat.
In Part II of this series, and by the time, I am done laying out the allegations against Jeff Sessions, he will look like King George as he was protrayed in the Declaration of Independence as written by Thomas Jefferson.
The Deep State is all pervasive. They have either penetrated the Trump administration, or they bribe their way into the Trump administration. Pence is compromised, as I have previously covered. Mattis has been marginalized. Tillerson is compromised. Remember, I have sources in the State Department and they tell me that the Deep State is alive and well. I have well-placed sources in both the FBI and the DEA and I am told that the bulk of the agents are still protecting the Cllinton Foundation and their organized criminal activities. Vance Davis, formerly of the NSA is coming on my show to shed light on the fact that Trump cannot even trust his inner circle in order to prevent Plan C, an assassination.

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Plan A was the planned impeachment of President Trump via the “Russian Collusion Delusion” which has disintegrated because of the exposed Dossier fraud.
Plan B is currently underway and that involves impugning the mental health of the President and this will hopefully lead to the removal of the 45th President based upon the 25th Amendment and its disability clause.
Plan C is assassination. Trump has already done more to damage the modern-day Deep State than John Kennedy ever did. The only reason that President Trump is still alive is because the Deep State fears that an assassination will cause millions to rise up against them and their policies, because if the Independent Media had been around in 1963, the people would have been in the streets and chasing David Rockefeller, LBJ, J. Edgar Hoover and Allen Dulles down the street with pitchforks.  It would be easier and more simple to simply remove Trump by using administrative means. However, at the end of the day, they will do what they have to do to maintain their power.

Things are so difficult for President Trump that I have learned that Trump is using his own security detail because he does not trust the Secret Service. And if one knows their JFK assassination history, one should not be surprised. The Secret Service had more to do with the death of John Kennedy than did Lee Harvey Oswald.
It is amazing to me that so many people would think that the Deep State would just roll over and allow themselves to be defeated by a series of “secret indictments”. Before the Deep State is defeated, we could expect that they will empty their gun and that includes some very decisive actions.
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[*]World War III, especially if it were nuclear, would halt, at least temporarily, any purge of the Deep State led by the conservatives in this country.

[*]A series of false flag incidents which would be followed up by an overt coup against the government, under the guise of martial law. The people would not be able to ascertain who was in charge. However, we would see UN troops confiscating guns and “trouble-makers” being hauled off to FEMA camps (they exist for a reason). And some are still wondering why the Obama administration allowed the cartels, MS-13 and ISIS into the country. This is the “5th column force”, designed to derail any populist movement. Most of us in the Independent Media believe that the Deep State will unleash chemical and biological attacks upon the people before they would allow themselves to be defeated. For my long-time readers, I am sure you remember my FEMA friend who bugged out in late 2012 with like-minded people. Do you remember what he told me and what I published about this event? He clearly stated that if the “establishment cannot stop the rising tide of populism, they will unleash chemcial and biological attacks upon the American people with weapons the world has never seen”. This was nearly three years before the Trump’s emergence as a political figure. The Deep State was already worried about us and making contingency plans long before Donald Trump. The emergence of Trump is merely the manifestation of the growing discontent by many people in our country who have had enough of Deep State politics and serial criminals like George Soros and Hillary Clinton. Fortunately for us, the Deep State bet on the wrong horse when they backed Hillary Clinton. They thought the novelty of the first woman president would disguise their true intent of overthowing the government in the same novel manner that the election of the first black president led to the unhinging of our economy and constitutional processes. The American people have the Independent Media and their own common sense to thank for the fact that we defeated Hillary Clinton and are still relatively free because I can promise you that a Clinton presidency would already be piling up body counts on a large scale.

[*] Simultaneous to the roll-out of the coup and the declaration of martial law like what we saw rehearsed in Jade Helm (15 and 16), various types of planned assassinations and arrests would take place. Why do you think the Obama administration practiced doing such things in the summers of 2015 and 2016?

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RESPONSE FROM FORMER BRIGADIER GENERAL IN CHARGE OF GUANTANAMO BAY,WHEN I ASKED HIM ABOUT REPORTS OF “HIGH PROFILE INDIVIDUALS” BEING SENT TO GITMO

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Hi Steve,
Thanks for sending this. I saw something similar to this on the All News Pipeline (I think). Here is my take.
Why this premise doesn’t make sense:
This is the normal rotation time for GTMO…in particular, for the National Guard. Nothing special here.
Military Police have the right MOS (Military Occupation Specialty) for the duty. Again, nothing special.
When we deployed, we didn’t allow pictures of the soldiers to be made public either. SOP.
There are only about 50 detainees at GTMO now, and much of GTMO has been shuttered. Repair and restoration would be needed. Salt water eats away at everything there.
There are two major parts of GTMO…..the Naval Base and the Detention Facility. The two have very little in common. They have different missions and chains of command. Though relations are cordial, there is very little interaction. The point is, increased communication with GTMO could be either for the detention facility or the naval base operations. If it is naval base operations, then Cuba is your issue.
The optics of putting politicians at GTMO are horrific. The torture stuff ended 12-13 years ago., but, in the public’s mind, GTMO will always be associated with an angry nation— and waterboarding. I still get jokes about it today. 
The MSM would go apoplectic is Americans were sent to GTMO…expect court filings by the hundreds.
Human rights groups would be pile-on and get limitless funding from Soros, et al.
The fact is, GTMO is just a prison…modeled after one in Indiana. There is nothing inherently special about it from a structural standpoint. There is no reason to imprison Americans there vs. a regular prison in the US.
Next, why would you intermingle detainees with Americans? Americans (even if they are total reprobates, which they would likely be) would have to be treated differently. 
The cost (and inconvenience) of detaining (and questioning) anyone at GTMO was always a sore spot for lawyers, the media, the politicians, and bureaucrats.
Why this could be possible:
President Trump clearly supports sending strong messages. Imprisoning people at GTMO would certainly send a strong message.
If the Administration has rock-solid proof of pedophilia, child sacrifice, etc., then the optics of GTMO are perfect. “We won’t stand for this!”
The isolation of GTMO would make control much easier. Protests outside prison entrances would not happen as they would in the US.
The inconvenience of getting to GTMO would also work President Trump’s favor. Everything for the attorneys/media/activists gets harder.
Even though there are still detainees there, there are also a lot of unused facilities that are separate from each other. Remember, we used to have 800 detainees at GTMO. The detainees need never see an American and vice versa.
Anyway, Steve, I could go on, but you get the gist. I do believe there are strong indications something big is about to break. If GTMO has a role in it, then what is about to happen will shake this country to its core. I can’t imagine the Administration using GTMO (and its historic reputation) for something of passing importance that would be lost quickly in a 24-hour news cycle.
Your friend in Christ,
Greg

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Under President Trump, the country is showing signs of life. He is doing what he can do, at the moment, to negate the Deep State. However, President Trump is in a generational battle and victory will not be easy and it certainly is not guaranteed. President Trump’s progress has gone as far as it can until Jeff Sessions is replaced.
Why would the Deep State release false information regarding thousands of indictments? The answer is plain and simple. They need the people to be distracted and look elsewhere while they continue with their agenda and by the time the coup is in full force, the people will not recognize it it for what it is until it is too late.
The Deep State can be defeated. However, it is going to be a long and arduous process. Further, any successful endeavor against the Deep State must involve invoking the power of prayer. If one wisely wantS to put their trust in something, it needs to be the power of Christ and not some anonymous stranger with fairy tales of undeserved victory.
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ARE WE SURE?

spring2 wrote:

ARE WE SURE?

spring, i'm not sure of anything

spring2 wrote:

ARE WE SURE?

I am 100% convinced.  Not that Q is a wizard.  But that he had and released advance knowledge of classified intel and ops that proved itself legitimate over time.  They ran the gamut from corporate, political to Executive Office to military.
I mean, he had advance knowledge that did not exist anywhere else except under wraps with the top echelon.  He put it out, and whether in 2 hours or 2 days or 2 wks we saw it happen.

Now because Q was compromised some-not much info put out under his tripcode was bogus.
I think he addressed every one of them with a short and sweet 'fake'.
And certainly there were WRONG interpretations by many 'wanna-be's' that did get posted.  But they weren't that hard to spot, and did get called out...but maybe with some delay.

There were 3 principle problems for Q. 
1. the necessity of sometimes sophisticated coded messages that were hard to decipher, and sometimes referred back to prior posts. And there were alot of them. 
2. the difficulty he and reddit have had maintaining a secure comm. channel. 
3. the bakers and the 'wanna-be' Q populace.

I don't think Q Anon was Q.  And we had interpretation presented as fact flying everywhere.  #the storm, #white rabbit, #calm before the storm, etc, etc, etc.

The 'bakers' worked night and day to interpret, to compile.  I don't fault them.  They knew this was something special, and they wanted to get it out, as Q himself did. 

First Q posted on 4chan...then it was compromised.  Moved to 8chan.
then compromised.  They had to lock him out with no way of telling him what they were doing at one point.   Then moved to CBTS, which is again now been compromised. But there may have been several posts made on 4chan. during this time.  No one can be sure at this point, because the secure channel has been lost again as of now [to my knowledge] and there's no way for Q to verify.

We have reason to expect he'll make it back.  I sure hope so.  But the intel and the processes are complex and do demand putting in the hours.

I also had a problem with much of the rest of the DH program notes, but...to each his own, I guess.

+dove, you are doing a good job keeping up with everything...damn good job, as complicated as things have gotten

michael371 wrote:

spring2 wrote:

ARE WE SURE?

spring, i'm not sure of anything

 
Me either! I'm of the opinion that some of the "Q" stuff is just sick & twisted people getting their jollies off - but - some of it might just be truthful too. Some mighty eerie stuff this so-called "Q" has written about beforehand seems to be coming to confirmation in spite of what Hodges thinks. Whom ever or whatever "Q" is (say A.I. here peeps) it sure has a bunch of people engaged, questioning, and woke up. Same can be said for some of the anons that post on the chans and reddit.

Dave Hodges is correct though about the deep state and how it won't ever really be eliminated completely. They'll keep coming back and I believe this will keep happening until the day Yeshua returns, so we must stay awake, alert, and and know the times and seasons that we are living in.

Anyone else notice the rapid uptick in questioning the mental faculties of POTUS? Scathing new book just released by Michael Wolff titled "Fire and Fury" is pretty much all about that. I'm sure that every far-left liberal Democrat will buy it and put it on the bookshelf right next to Hillary's "What Happened".

I'd also say that 'Zach' is on with AJ again.  I won't listen because:

The 1st time I heard Zach [and he sounded very legit.], AJ outed him out so badly that if he was legit it was ruined from that moment.

The next thing I heard was that Zach had had a visit from the Feds.

Now we are supposed to believe he 's back with more inside intel that he's again sharing on infowars?  Uuuhhh, NO!

[should I mention I don't listen to AJ anyway. And he's almost never been the source of anything I post.]

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Thank you, Mike.  I may have to take a break for a bit to attend to 'life as we know it'
down here.  I don't want to!  But, I don't want to be doing any 'fly by' posting, either.
But if I'm gone for a little bit, I'm probably not dead.

AI Researcher?  I don't see that.  But yeag, the Dem's have nothing but soap opera.  Sen. Markey of the not so 'pissah' state of Taxachusetts was on tv last nite.  You'd think he might use the time to say something intelligent.  BUT NOPE!  I heard the 'book', and 'not mentally fit'.  I've been sick all day over it I'm so angry and disgusted.

The other thing is IF "they, the arrested" are tried in Military Court... WOULD the names still be withheld AS IN a Grand Jury OR would they be available???

By keeping us waiting WE would be "Bing Strung Along"

I need more factual evidence not just some heresay!

I have just at this moment found this Article:

http://www.thegoldwater.com/news/14874-Trump-Orders-Deployment-To-Gitmo

By Steve Dellar  |  12-29-2017   News 
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To the astonishment of many, President Trump decided to send the Arizona 850th Military Police Batallion for a nine-month mission to Gitmo base in Cuba today.



The official statement of the Arizona National Guard says that “this is the second deployment for the 850th Military Police Battalion in the last 10 years in support of overseas contingency operations.”



This may seem like a random act, but given that there are currently only a handful of detainees left in Guantanamo base (55 is the official figure), sending a whole battalion does sound like overkill.





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Furthermore, with Vice-President Pence visiting just a fortnight ago and Secretary of Defense James Mattis making the first visit by a Pentagon Chief in 16 years on 21 December, the internet is rife with speculation that new prisoners will soon be transferred to Gitmo again.



During his visit, Mr Mattis did not tour the detention facilities but held meetings with the officers and offered Christmas wishes to the soldiers present.



The last defense chief to visit Guantanamo Bay before him was, in fact, Donald Rumsfeld, who went there in January 2002, only a few weeks after the first detainees arrived from Afghanistan.



The detention centre, which was set up to hold suspected terrorists shortly after the 9/11 attacks, was high on Trump’s list during the Presidential campaign, when he stated: “We’re going to keep, as you know, Gitmo, we’re keeping that open."



President Trump asked Congress in the spring of 2017 for additional funding, which the Republican-controlled House incorporated in a 2018 spending bill. The goal is to provide $115 million to build new military barracks for U.S. troops stationed at the base. It furthermore states that the detention camp would be shielded from closure and prevents the transfer of detainees to the United States.



Source:

theeagle.com/news/nation/arizona-national-guard-military-police-to-help-in-guantanamo/article_2c51db96-bff7-581b-8428-1a90aa66834c.html

This:
[size=31]Treason Against the United States.[/size]
Published: January 25, 1861



By Section 110 of Article III. of the Constitution of the United States, it is declared that:
"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason."
In 1790, the Congress of the United States enacted that:
"If any person or persons, owing allegiance to the United States of America, shall levy war against them, or shall adhere to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States, or elsewhere, and shall be thereof convicted on confession in open Court, or on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act of the treason whereof he or they shall stand indicted, such person or persons shall be adjudged guilty of treason against the United States, and SHALL SUFFER DEATH; and that if any person or persons, having knowledge of the commission of any of the treasons aforesaid, shall conceal, and not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President of the United States, or some one of the Judges thereof, or to the President or Governor of a particular State, or some one of the Judges or Justices thereof, such person or persons, on conviction, shall be adjudged guilty of misprision of treason, and shall be imprisoned not exceeding seven years, and fined not exceeding one thousand dollars."
JAMES MADISON in the 43d number of the Federalist says:
"As treason may be committed against the United States the authority of the United States ought to be enabled to punish it: but as new tangled and artificial treasons have been the great engines by which violent factions, the natural offspring of free governments, have usually wreaked their alternate malignity on each other, the Convention has with great judgment opposed a barrier to this peculiar danger by inserting a Constitutional definition of the crime."
The Constitution confines the crime of treason to two species; First, the levying of war against the United States; and Secondly, adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. In so doing the very words of the Statute of Treason of EDWARD the THIRD were adopted; and thus the framers of the Constitution recognized the well settled interpretation of these phrases in the administration of criminal law which has prevailed for centuries in England.
Treason, according to Lord COKK, is derived from trahir, signifying to betray; and trahison, by contraction, treason, is the betraying itself.
In England, high treason can only be committed against the KING, for the oath of allegiance is to the KING alone, as the only supreme Governor -- he has no partners in the supremacy.
Hitherto, but few cases have occurred in the United States in which it has been necessary for the Federal Courts to act upon this important subject. In 1807 ERICK BALLMAN and SAMUEL SWARTWONT were committed to prison in the District of Columbia, on a charge of high treason against the United States. The prisoners were brought by a writ of habeas corpus before the Supreme Court of the United States. In delivering the opinion of the Court, Chief-Justice MARSHALL said:
"To constitute that specific crime for which the prisoners now before the Court have been commuted, war must be actually levied against the United States. However flagitious may be the crime of conspiring to subvert by force the Government of our country, such conspiracy is not treason. To conspire to levy war. and actually to levy war, are distinct offences. The first must be brought into operation by an assemblage of men for a purpose, treasonable in itself, or the fact of levying war cannot have been committed." * * * * * * * "It is not the intention of the Court to say that no individual can be guilty of this crime who has not appeared in arms against his country. On the contrary, if war be actually levied, that is, if a body of men Be actually assembled for the purpose of effecting by force a treasonable purpose, all those who perform any part, however minute, or however remote from the scene of action, and who are actually leagued in the general conspiracy, are to be considered as traitors. But there must be an actual assembling of men for a treasonable purpose to constitute levying of war. Crimes, so atrocious as those which have for their object the subversion by violence of those laws and those institutions which have been ordained in order to secure the peace and happiness of society, are not to escape punishment because they have not ripened into treason. The wisdom of the Legislature is competent to provide for the case."
In the case of The United States vs. FRIES, Mr. Justice CHASE said on the trial, and stated the opinion of the Court to be,
"That if a body of people, conspire and meditate an insurrection to resist or oppose the execution of any statute of the United States by force, they are only guilty of a high misdemeanor; but if they proceed to carry such intention into execution by force, that they are guilty of the treason of levying war; and the quantum of the force employed neither lessens or increases the crime -- whether by one hundred or one thousand persons is wholly immaterial;"
* * * "and that it is altogether immaterial whether the force used is sufficient to effectuate the object; any force connected with the intention will constitute the crime of levying war."
In the case of the United States vs. AARON BURR, Chief-Justice MARSHALL said:
"There is no difficulty in affirming that there must be a war, or the crime of levying it cannot exist; but there would often be considerable difficulty in affirming that a particular act did or did not involve the person committing it in the guilt and in the fact of levying war. If, for example, an army should be actually raised for the avowed purpose of carrying on open war against the United States and subverting their Government, the point must be weighed very deliberately before a Judge would venture to decide that an overt act of levying war had not been committed by a Commissary of purchases who never saw the army, but who, knowing its object, and leaguing himself with the rebels supplied that army with provisions; or by a Recruiting-officer, holding a commission in the rebel service, who, though never in camp, executed the particular duty assigned to him."
This able jurist, in the same case, states that the term "levying war," as used in the Constitution of the United States, was unquestionably employed in the same sense in which it was understood in England and in this country, to have been used in the Statute of EDWARD III., from which it was borrowed, and refers to principles laid down by COKE, HALE, FOSTER, BLACKSTONE and HAWKINS.
FOSTER says:
"Attacking the King's forces, in opposition to his authority, upon a march or in quarters, is levying war."
And also that
"Holding a castle or fort against the King or his forces, if actual force be used in order to keep possession, is levying war." -- Sec. 4 Cranch Reps. 75, 137, Appendix 470-507.
FOSTER further states, in his valuable Treatise on Treason, that all insurrection, to effect certain innovations of a public and general concern, by an armed force, to be, in construction of law, high treason within the clause of levying war. He farther says:
"An assembly armed and arrayed in a warlike manner for a treasonable purpose is bellum, levatum, though not bellum percussum; listing and marching are sufficient overt acts, without coming to a battle or action. So cruising on the King's subjects, under a French Commission, France being then at war with us, was held to be adhering to the King's enemies, though no other act of hostility be proved." -- See 4 Cranch, pp. 478,479:
Lord COKE says: "If many conspire to levy war, and some of them do levy the same, according to the conspiracy this is high treason in all." "Why? Because all were legally present when the war was levied? No. "For in treason," continues Lord COKE, "all be principals and war is levied." This doctrine of Lord COKE has been adopted by all subsequent writers; and it is generally laid down in the English books that whatever will make a man an accessory in felony will make him a principal in treason:
"It is well known," says FOSTER, " that in the language of the law there are no accessories in high treason -- all are principals. Every instance of incitement, aid, or protection, which in case of felony will render a man an accessory before or after the fact, in the case of high treason, whether it be treason at common law or by statute, will make him a principal in treason."
"The propriety of investing the National Government." says Mr. Justice STORY, in his Commentaries on the Constitution, "with authority to punish the crime of treason against the United States, could never become a question with any persons who deem ed the National Government worthy of creation or preservation. If the power had not been expressly granted, it must have been implied, unless all the powers of the National Government might be put at defiance and prostrated with impunity. Two motives probably concurred in introducing it as an express power. One was, not to leave it open to implication whether it was to be exclusively punished with death, according to the known rule of the common law, and with the barbarous accompaniments pointed out by it -- but to confide the punishment to the discretion of Congress. The other was, to impose some limitation upon the nature and extent of the punishment, so that it should not work corruption of blood or forfeiture beyond the life of the offender."
Treason has ever been deemed the highest crime which can be committed in civil society; since its aim is an overthrow of the Government and a public resistance by force of its just powers, its tendency is to create universal danger and alarm, and on this account it has often been visited with the deepest public resentment. Hence, by the common law, the the punishment of high treason was accompanied by all the refinements in cruelty which were oftentimes literally and studiously executed. But under the Constitution of the United States the power of punishing the crime of treason against the United States is exclusive in Congress; and the trial of the offence belongs exclusively to the Federal tribunals. A State cannot take cognizance or punish the offence, whatever it may do in relation to the offence of treason committed exclusively against itself.

Maybe here's a good example of the problem, because I want facts and proof too. 

This is fact:   Q mentioned gitmo in a post.



First we'd have to find the post.  Then:


Examine the context as it was presented, at face value;

Examine for code representing any individual, organization, place, date,AND verify that interpretation;

Examine surrounding posts in a 24-48 hour window;

Examine  for any known code indicating we were to refer to a specific prior post in order to decipher.

Search any and all other posts referencing gitmo, along with persons, dates, etc.

In desperation, begin reading 'baker's interpretations' and back intel, all the while screening out the 'wanna-be's'.


Instead what's happened is people have half the Congress and ALL the Clinton crew  going to gitmo because 'Q said'. 
But did Q say?
We should pull up one of the indexed pdf's of posts and just see.