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PostSubject: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:11 am

https://theyig.ning.com/articles/new-player-pdanon?xg_source=twitter

i have no idea, but this just came up on TD....too damned much information,too little time
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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:48 am

DAYUM! Part one Mike linked to is pretty damning to Israel, mossad, etc. Wish they would use zionist in place of Jew though. The two are not the same entities. Language can get rough. Theyig just posted a part 2 and I'm linking it below.

https://theyig.ning.com/articles/new-player-pdanon-part-2


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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:34 pm

michael371 wrote:
https://theyig.ning.com/articles/new-player-pdanon?xg_source=twitter

i have no idea, but this just came up on TD....too damned much information,too little time

I second that!   We'll see.  If PDanon has it then the Q team has it.  Q seems to be aiming for 'higher ground' on which to bring their charges.

In fact, PDanon might buy himself any flavor of 'cease and desist' if he's not smart about it.


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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:47 pm

Having looked into the 10 "lost" tribes/khazarians/askenazi/Zionist connection, I am giving this guy the benefit of the doubt.   Zionists are all khazians, best that I can tell.....Abrahamic descendants are waing on "Messiah" to rebuild the temple and regather Is-Ra-El .....Researcher, you know that they will do whatever it takes to use the "goyim" to accomplish their purpose.....This sounds just like the MO that they use.   Funny thing is, i always thought Netanyahu was a good dude....Oh Yeah,damn I almost forgot this....Did ya'll notice how dr. stephen pidgeon pronounced "IS-RA-EL?"....he said it like this "Yah-Sha-El"  and since english still gives me trouble, hebrew is best left to others....BUT !!!!!! I suspect that he might be right since that would mean " YAH IS GOD"....IS-ISIS/RA-NIMROD/EL-GOD and i'll be damn if it does not appear to be the nimrod-seniramus-tammuz (osiris-isis-horus) connection....shit like this bothers me...i don't want to appear to be anti-Israel, but I have backed myself into a corner with no other conclusion to come to....do i have to say what i don't want to say?....how will God treat me if i'm wrong?....

all of this intrigue with the political shit has knocked me off plumb on the 4th beast of daniel 7.....i don't know how ya'll feel about stephen anderson, but he has come to the same crossroads as i did, john torrell,texe marrs, same thing......God promised ole Abraham that he would make him a great nation with descendants more than the grains of sand on a beach or stars in the sky....Is that little hellhole and worldwide population of "jews" approaching that?....you know the answer....Is the "land of milk and honey" that little area, the size of Rhoad Island, full of rocks and cliffs ( i know they improved it once they came in, but still?)that land of "milk and honey?.....Israel( Yahsharel) is a people, not an area of land....Who are those people, and where are they?.....ya'll know, or suspect,what  the answer is
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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:09 pm

Yes a people, but also with a Promised Land, of a still future time, referred to by Obama and Muslims as the  “Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant."
Even as the world said ISIS, he always said ISIL.

I too also pause at taking any negative position against Israel.  But it's as you say, and  it's just like us.
The actions of Governments do not reflect the hearts and minds of the people.  You cannot be faulted for using discernment and recognizing the unjust.

So, no worries.  Call it as you see it.  There are the Saved and the Unsaved, the Righteous and the not so.


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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:35 pm

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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:57 pm

dove, thats just another reason that i have been so troubled about this....i don't mean just recently, for over two decades.....I do not agree with replacement theology at all because they got it wrong....Israel was "the old testament church" and i fully believe that they are/have been encompassed in the new testament church consisting of both abrahamic descendants and called out gentiles(and in this group, the 10 "lost tribes"....When Christ said " it is finished" the need for Israel was also finished....remember paul said that there was no difference in jew and the greek(gentile)....it is something that i have spent many,many hours own...A Jew (judah,benjamin) will have a special place and God ain't done with them, but have the Khazarians trodden down Jerusalem since 1948?...This is sideways thinking, but when dealing with prophesy being fulfilled, usually it is possible to have more than one type/method of fulfilling that prophesy....a prophesy inside a prophesy, so to speak....really bugs me, because i don't settle for compromise, its either right or its wrong, and not knowing for sure just eats on me because the answer is somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:36 pm

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dove, thats just another reason that i have been so troubled about this....i don't mean just recently, for over two decades.....I do not agree with replacement theology at all because they got it wrong....Agreed. (and my point of view is just a product of the teachings I favor, I suppose, so in no way am I saying "I'm right". But it has, and still does, ring true to me.)

Israel was "the old testament church" and i fully believe that they are/have been encompassed in the new testament church consisting of both abrahamic descendants and called out gentiles(and in this group, the 10 "lost tribes"....
When Christ said " it is finished" the need for Israel was also finished....
Yes, in fact more true for the Jews as He came as Messiah TO THE JEW.  It wasn't till the Holy Spirit came on the Disciples and they began preaching to everyone in their own (foreign) tongue, their own dialect,  that God offered Salvation to ALL men, whosoever would receive Jesus as God's Sole Propitiation for the sins of man.

remember paul said that there was no difference in jew and the greek(gentile)
Together, "One new man, in Christ".  That is the essential difference.
Does a man (Jew or gentile) live by the Law, by his own works for salvation,
or does a man Confess Jesus/Yeshua and faith in His Finished Work for Salvation.


....it is something that i have spent many,many hours own...A Jew (judah,benjamin) will have a special place and God ain't done with them,
Agreed.  Certainly not finished with them, UNTIL they say Blessed is HE (Yeshua)
who comes in the Name of the Lord.  Until every knee shall bow and every man confess that Jesus the Christ is Lord, and Messiah in the Hebrew language.


but have the Khazarians trodden down Jerusalem since 1948?...
Satan certainly has, by whatever men and means he can.  I don't try to distinguish
any deeper than that.
  By whatever name, it is done through the influence of satan.

This is sideways thinking, but when dealing with prophesy being fulfilled, usually it is possible to have more than one type/method of fulfilling that prophesy....a prophesy inside a prophesy, so to speak....really bugs me, because i don't settle for compromise, its either right or its wrong, and not knowing for sure just eats on me because the answer is somewhere. I don't have a problem accepting muti-level prophecy.  But being a Jew, even a practicing Rabbi, does not make one saved,
unless and until they accept and embrace the Work of the Cross for Salvation.


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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:53 pm

what i am not trying to say, is that evidence suggests that the "jews" that came from europe are frauds, khazars, who converted to judaism and are from germany/hungary...the "thirteenth tribe".....rabbinical judaism is an absolute and utter abomination to God, a filthy religion based on talmudic interpretation rather than Gods instruction....not even close to how God said to do things....they took the Law and made a damned religion out of it based on what they learned during the babylonian captivity,  or "amending" their "constitution" that God dictated to Moses and his band, so that it would be in their words and they would be the ultimate authorities.   God NEVER intended for the Law to be a ritual religion, but for a way of life and if that Law was adhered to, the pagan world system could not encroach on them....
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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:22 pm

Mike said:   God NEVER intended for the Law to be a ritual religion, but for a way of life and if that Law was adhered to, the pagan world system could not encroach on them....

I think 'original sin' cuts deeper than that. I believe that we are born into corruption, and into corruptible flesh which is ALWAYS subject to sin, period. 

The Law cannot be kept PERFECTLY, and no man is made perfect by the Law.

We are only led to a true understanding of God's Law by the INDWELLING SPIRIT, and no amount of morality or adherence to the True Law under our own efforts is possible.  And we STILL sin.  But our Advocate stands in our place, and has already paid the price for our sins.


To live as you're saying, that if the true Law was adhered to, the pagan world system could not encroach on them....describes a State of Grace.  And that was lost in the Garden.
It sounds good, but it's not possible.  The Bible teaches man cannot rule himself, cannot maintain against the inborn corruptible spirit, no matter how hard he tries.

If the Law was ever sufficient, the Cross was unnecessary. A man cannot have two masters. We surrender to one or the other, and surrender we do, whether we know what we're doing or not.


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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:52 pm

dove, dove, dove, dove, i am not saying that the Law can be KEPT, it can't, but if you have a nation in its infancy, with the RULE of Law, as america was founded on, and if it is adhered to, it is the basis for an orderly society....the Law even set up their holidays, personal hygiene, medical procedures and various other ways to provide a quiet and a Godly way to conduct a government....it was not a foundation for a religion...They mde a religion, along with a hierarchy, for that religion....they added man made laws to it rather than just stick with what God dictated.   The Law was given to Israel to act as their constitution for a nation, to separate them from the world system...the Law was never intended for salvation....you ain't quite got a grasp on what i'm trying to say...grace was not lost in the garden, the entire story of man and salvation is based on the grace of God.   There is nothing changed from genesis to revelation, its always been about grace.....They wanted a law after they became terrified of God appearing, but God was doing it to use to build a nation....when i say "keep the law" i mean adhere to them, not "do them"....if they adhered to those Laws, they stayed out of trouble, if not, they got in trouble, just like our system................unless your name is clinton ( for now,anyway)
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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:26 pm

Mike said, a Godly way to conduct a government....it was not a foundation for a religion...They made a religion, along with a hierarchy, for that religion....they added man made laws to it rather than just stick with what God dictated.   The Law was given to Israel to act as their constitution for a nation, to separate them from the world system.

I would say that by it's Nature it would accomplish that separation from the 'world system', but I don't think it's primary purpose was to establish a nation.

What was the primary goal of the Supreme Commander?  To establish a nation, or to reunite Himself with his Creation.

I'd say it's primary purpose was to raise up a God centered, Fellowshipping people, who THEN would be a standard of Kings and Priests for all Nations.

And I feel that distinction is a lot bigger than just the 'splitting hairs' that it may sound like on the surface.  But, I'd be doing tons of writing to back that up. (aaaand, we don't want that. lol)

I understand God did not mean the Law to be a means of salvation.  Yet, the purification therein was essential to the priestly role in the wilderness and thereafter for Communion with God.
So, that seems to take precedence over how to establish a government.  And explains why it was made into a 'religion'.

And at the end, we're still back to 'adherence to the Law', and is that even possible, then or now.
Lovely if it was possible, but I don't think it is.

And I'll give you that Grace was the wrong word, though that's what I've always heard:  a 'fall from Grace".  What word does the Bible use for what happened between God and man in the Garden?


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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:00 pm

remember, the world government was created in genesis chapter 11, babylon, the combining of government and pagan religion, with a man as head of both, nimrod.   This was what God was battling against and thats why he pulled abram out of sumer and set him up as "father of many nations" so he could execute a counterattack against the plan of Satan.   A plan to usurp authority, not necessarily FROM God, but to be equal with God.   The Law worked like our legal system,in that if you broke it, you pay a fine,or make a sacrifice....it did not erase it from your record, but it kept you out of jail....here is an example of what i am trying to say that might make it clearer, and then ima' going to bed:

take the dietary Laws of the OT.  What the pharisees(rabbis of today) did was make eating part of the religion of the LAW, or legal system.   "Kosher" food is acceptable food blessed by a priest.    Notice all of the foods mentioned, clean and unclean....Think todays concern with food....HEALTH !!!! the unclean foods are high in chloresterol......you cook a steak by roasting with fire, aka grilling, and you cut the fat off....i forget where it is that God said (OT) that you can eat it, but that He would "require the blood of thee" if you did.....He didn't mean that He would strike you dead, He meant that it would cause plaque to build up on the walls of your arteries.

The Law was much more than the 10 commandments.    Summing it up, if you keep the LAW as God intended, you would have a healthy, happy, disease-free, and orderly way of life, BUT if you try to keep it to please God, as in a legalistic manner of self-elevation, you failed as soon as you took another breath.    The original constitution of america was based on the Law given to the Israelites and it worked fine until the amendments started, just like they injected babylon into the OT Law.....

dove, I am not stating this from a standpoint of salvation, its from a governmental understanding,from a moral standpoint, how to eat,dress and behave....the Law built a wall between Israel and babylon,as long as the Law remained as their constitution...Lots of similarities between America and Israel
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PostSubject: Re: new player in the game....   Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:25 pm

the Law built a wall between Israel and babylon,as long as the Law remained as their constitution.

I can see that.  Yet men were guaranteed to fail in the execution of it, right?  Which brings us around the mountain and back to the point where even if God gives the perfect law for the establishment of any nation, men are guaranteed to wreck it (being of a corruptible spirit). 
And so we wait for THE DAY when He returns.  Wink


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