Europe to Malaysia 777 -rapid trident 2014

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html

Prayers for those souls aboard.

Lusitania or 'fog of war' accident?


Add a better link:

http://news.sky.com/story/1302864/malaysian-plane-shot-down-with-295-on-board

BUK surface to air missile, note the pic of the trident on its tail. Heeeeeere we go

And...while cruising at 33,000 ft. I think I'll go brew some more tea.

Flight number MH17 was shot down on 7/17/2014. Did I get that right?

Proskuneo wrote:

Flight number MH17 was shot down on 7/17/2014. Did I get that right?

Unless the 'facts' change, it left 14 (7 x 2) minutes late from gate G3 (7 x 3) and was lost 5 hours 33 minutes into flight (333 minutes). 

All from flightaware

Malaysia Airlines flight #MH17, a Boeing 777 is shot down on 17/7/14 apparently after being built 17 years ago.  Perhaps this speech in the video above, this occult message was an order given to whomever by her to shoot this plane down as maybe a sacrifice or a false flag to further their goals?   If you dont understand the connection watch the video first then you will get it.  



http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/07/malaysia-flight-17-christine-legarde-occult-message-connection-video-2994400.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/07/malaysian-airliner-shot-down-over-ukraine-295-passengers-video-2994384.html

ALSO THE NEWS ON TV SAYS BLACK BOX DOES'NT SURVIVE!!!!


LIE !!!!!!

Malaysia already sacrifices enough children each year to the sex trade. Sick.

Guess they taught them a lesson.. or 2?

and how about that #7 how many were in the 1st plane.

IS 
IT
370

Tin foil hats on . . .

OK, here's what I see as I connect up the dots. Wasn't Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 a Boeing 777? Why, yes it was! And has anything, ANYTHING, been found of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370? Why, no it hasn't . . . nothing has been found!

Well, maybe until now that is. Something about this stinks like a room full of mouldering dead rats. I smell "false flag" here people. Could this actually be Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 re branded?

I have no proof other than "history tells us". Go do your research.

23/17 phenomenon. Wait for it...


Edit to add:

Interfax news agency reported that 23 U.S. citizens were on board.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696161/BREAKING-NEWS-Malaysian-passenger-plane-carrying-295-people-crashes-Ukraine-near-Russian-border.html#ixzz37kuE49U5

well well, its a codeshare flight with KLM 4103, I.e. the same flight. (7)

edit for link:


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/KLM4103

For archiving. Click to open full screen. Thanks quietobserver.

My ribs itch... but more than that... THIS STINKS!!!

IS IT RESET TIME???
7-20-2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr43HsfjDqY

Published on Jul 2, 2014

Malaysian Plane Crash Video Shows Ground Explosion, Not Missile Explosion In Air!



Published on Jul 17, 2014

All the video footage is showing the same thing...A huge black plume of smoke from the crash! How can that be if it was blown apart in the sky? Have you ever witnessed another plane hit with a missile at 30,000 feet? The debris dont just fall down to the exact same spot on earth eithe, From 30,000 feet! 

THERE IS NO PROOF OF AN AIR EXPLOSION! PERIOD!

http://news.sky.com/story/1302864/mal...

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysia-air...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia...

I've seen this and another video as well. No trail of smoke visible from a plane that is about to auger into the ground. I'll see if I can find that second video of this again. I've seen so much today that I don't recall where it was that I saw it. I'll be back to post it if I find it again.

I STILL smell a rat concerning this though.

Found it. Link goes to a very detailed photo report from the U.K.'s Mail Online.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696161/BREAKING-NEWS-Malaysian-passenger-plane-carrying-295-people-crashes-Ukraine-near-Russian-border.html#ixzz37kuE49U5

"crumpled wreckage from the flight were scattered across a massive nine-mile debris field".....really, 9 miles sure doesn't look like it. (How many miles again?)


"The plane went down exactly 18 years after TWA Flight 800 crashed on July 17, 1996, killing all 230 people aboard off the coast of Long Island." 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysian-airlines-plane-crashes-ukraine-russian-border-article-1.1870413

"President Barack Obama was on the phone with Russian President Vladimir Putin when news of the Malaysian Airlines plane crash broke Thursday, but the White House won't say whether the president learned of the incident from his counterpart in Moscow or by other means. "


 http://www.businessinsider.com/mh17-plane-crash-white-house-wont-clarify-how-obama-learned-2014-7#ixzz37mCGXViQ

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/07/flight-mh-17-never-took-off-2994632.html


Flight MH 17 Never Took Off???!!!

Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:53





Source: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2014/07/flight-mh-17-never-took-off.html

AND THEN THIS--

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/07/nwo-attempted-assassination-of-vladimir-putin-but-got-the-wrong-plane-it-looks-that-way-video-2994596.html


Hot News Release: NWO Attempted Assassination of Vladimir Putin, But Got the Wrong Plane? It Looks That Way! (Breaking News Videos)

Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:26




 














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Hmmmm, watch this. Take special notice between 15 seconds and 35 seconds of stuff falling from the sky. Then pay attention to the eye witness report at 3 minutes 45 seconds. "The aircraft broke into lots of pieces and were scattered about over 500 meters to one kilometer". (paraphrased)  That's a bunch shy of the 9 miles of debris reported earlier.

Quote :

Hmmmm, watch this. Take special notice ds lling from the sky. Then pay .zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/was-flight-mh-17-diverted-over-restricted-airspaceion to tflight pathss report at 3 minutes 45 seconds. "The aircraft broke into lots of pieces and were scattered about over 500 meters to one kilometer". (paraphraseRegrettablya bunch shy of the 9 reported earlier.

Yeah, the 9 mile reference shows they're pretty happy with their handiworklmarks of your basic lucy psychopath.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/was-flight-mh-17-diverted-over-restricted-airspace

You can click on the flightaware link in the article and manually run back a few days. They were clearly well north of normal flight path. So much for the 'saving fuel' nonsense mentioned in several articles. Weather in the area was fine soooo that just leaves Kiev ATC nudging them off course.

OK folks, add this to the pile. At 4 sec. you see a flash as it appears the right engine explodes and catches fire. You'll hear the explosion later in the video at 20 sec. as the sound finally reaches the cameras mike. Make of it what you will.

Might as well add this one to the pile as well. Don't know what to make of this one.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10975218/Malaysia-Airlines-crash-Intercepted-call-suggests-rebels-to-blame.html



Well, sorry but the video won't embed. You'll have to go to the link to view it.

Didn't take long to open this door now they have 'just cause'.

"German Foreign Minister: 'Further Escalation Not Out of the Question' in Ukraine"

Journalist places ball on tee:

"Mr. Steinmeier, a Malaysian Airlines passenger jet was presumably shot down over eastern Ukraine on Thursday. Could the situation there spin completely out of control?"

........... (skipping blah blah blah)..........

Fritz finally gets down to it:

" A further escalation is not out of the question, the situation continues to be extremely dangerous. "

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-on-ukraine-and-middle-east-with-foreign-minister-steinmeier-a-981761.html

The english version reads a little awkwardly because a lot of phrases don't translate well from German to English.

I find it a little odd they also jump into Israel and American Espionage in the same lead article about a Malaysian plane crash.

here are some more from prisonplanet today:

The 'tell' and what really doesn't add up from all of this is the MSM consensus story that 'pro-Russian rebels thought they were downing a Ukrainian transport plane, so it was mistaken identity'. Most articles basically say that, forget about everything else involved, if you're a 'pro-russian rebel' WITH ALL OF RUSSIA a few miles behind you and you spot a 777 heavy at 33,000 feet flying east the LAST THING its gonna be is a Ukranian transport plane. Transporting what to where???

Granted these guys aren't geniuses, but they aren't idiots either.

A 777 allows 3nm of ground distance per 1,000 ft. of altitude to descend, sooo 100 miles to land if they were to begin descent from overhead these 'rebels'; and in other words, way the heck into Russia. According to Janes the likely flight distance of the BUK is 20 miles, over 6 of which will be flying vertically to reach MH17's altitude, so its not like they hit fire while it was over Kiev, only to realize later they'd made an oopsie. The only thing that adds up is calling bravo sierra on all of it, or Ukraine and their handlers are 100% responsible.

DIED DAYS BEFORE... SAY WHAT??

http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2014/07/doomsday-ultimate-reaper-virus-unleashed-100-scientists-added-to-dead-scientist-list-after-mh17-is-shot-down-2542998.html

Doomsday Ultimate Reaper Virus Unleashed? 100 Scientists Added To Dead Scientist List After MH17 Is Shot Down


Friday, July 18, 2014 9:13
With it now being common knowledge that 100 leading international AIDS scientists were on board the doomed flight MH17, 100 new names have been added to a rapidly growing list of now dead scientists, chemists, astronomers and engineers as the MH17 mystery takes a new turn as shared in the 1st and 3rd videos below. In the 1st video, called “Malaysian Flight MH17 Bomb On Board To Kill Joep Lange”, our videographer shares why he feels that Lange, President of the International AIDS Society from 2002 to 2004, was targetted.
 
Coincidentally, or not, former President Bill Clinton also knew a number of the scientists who died aboard MH17 as shared in the 2nd video. Are these more names to be added to the body count that surrounds the Clinton family? What did these scientists know, or were about to learn at this ‘very important AIDS conference’, that we don’t know? We were recently contacted by Stephen Quayle who gave us permission to repost this quote directly from him.:
 
“PUT THIS IN CONTEXT OF V’S GENERAL ULTIMATE KILLER PLAGUE COMING  REVELATION AND ITS SAFE TO ASSUME THAT AIDS VIRUS, GENETICALLY ALTERED, MAYBE INCORPORATED INTO “DOOMSDAY ULTIMATE REAPER VIRUS”! ADD THESE DEAD SCIENTISTS TO MY ON GOING “DEAD SCIENTIST LIST” AND A VERY CLEAR PICTURE EMERGES.”



 






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Heard today it was more like 10 AIDS researchers, not the 100 sodomobama referenced in his speech.

OH THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT? Think not... what percentage are you in????

http://www.prisonplanet.com/reminder-u-s-plotted-to-provoke-shoot-down-of-airliner-to-create-pretext-for-war.html

Reminder: U.S. Plotted to Provoke Shoot Down of Airliner to Create Pretext for War

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Plotting to stage downing of an airliner & start a war is insane, except when ‘Murica does it!
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
July 18, 2014
Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/paul.j.watson.71

http://www.prisonplanet.com/black-box-from-downed-malaysian-airlines-jet-is-sent-to-moscow-by-pro-russian-separatists-amid-fears-of-a-cover-up.html

Black box from downed Malaysian Airlines jet is sent to MOSCOW by pro-Russian separatists amid fears of a cover-up

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SAM WEBB
UK Daily Mail
July 18, 2014


Pro-Russian separatists claimed to have found the ‘black box’ – which records vital flight information – of the downed passenger airliner MH17.
According to Russian news agency Interfax, First Deputy Prime Minister Andriy Purgin of the breakaway Donestsk Republic said the box will be transferred to Moscow for examination.
‘Of course, we most likely will give them to the Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC), to Moscow. They are highly qualified experts who will be able to accurately determine the cause of the disaster, even though it is so clear,’ he said.
Whoever has the black box will be able to control what information is released from on board before the crash.

Black boxes are used to review information from the flight and record cockpit chatter. They allow officials to discover if the pilot was aware of any problems before the plane went down.
Full article here

This one's a hoot, literally hours after the US ratcheted up sanctions and hours before mh17 was downed we're to believe......


A short video posted to YouTube by the Ukrainian government reportedly shows a “Buk,” or SA-11 “Gadfly,” surface-to-air missile system en route from eastern Ukraine to the Russian border on Friday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/07/18/new-video-allegedly-shows-buk-missile-system-en-route-to-russia/

http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2014/07/mh-17-where-is-110-bodies-2453178.html

MH-17 Where is 110 Bodies?
Sunday, July 20, 2014 7:06

http://www.novorosinform.org
According to the report, BUK system for compliance with anounced capabilities must consist of 11 vehicles TOTAL!. Single launcher, due to limitations of build-in radar UNCAPABLE of detecting targets at the distance and altitude US claims MH-17 was flying at the time of terroristic act. Thus rendering story about lone launcher taking down Boeing effectively – nonsense. 
 
 
Another big question of the day, so far 188 bodies were located, even if we wil ltake in consideration relatively large fall out area, still 110 bodies unaccouted for. 
In 1983 disaster US clamed: bodies were “washed away” in the ocean. In Pentagon 2001 no bodies were found… List go on.
 
If in facat 9М317 missile was cause of Malaysian Airlines flight destruction, wreckage would look like sieve and bodies will be full of shrapnel. So far no evidence of anything like that presented. But first pictures already percolated with very distinctive damage inflicted by Air to air missle. 
……….
The story on the grapevine right now goes like that. Su-27 did in fact shut down the plane over Gorlovka and it was piloted by Polish mercenaries. There are no secret anymore that Polish military and personnel openly fighting on the fascist’s side.
Furthermore, plane was incommunicado since flying over Kremenchg. What really went on for 500km?
Ukrainian SAM positions in the area, the lower dot is location of the auxiliary radar vehicle. Right most dot – debree field location.

http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2014/07/mh17-shootdown-shows-chaff-was-deployed-proving-fighter-jet-was-somehow-involved-2453122.html

MH17 Shootdown Shows Chaff Was Deployed Proving Fighter Jet Was Somehow Involved!
Friday, July 18, 2014 7:20

Photographs and videos emerging from the shootdown of Malaysian Flight 17 shows that chaff was deployed as shared in this newly released video from potrblog, proving that a fighter jet was somehow involved in this false flag takedown of the Malaysian jet. With the lies the MSM has told about this downed jet now completely falling apart, was it a US, UN or Ukrainian jet that REALLY took down MH17? Much more below.
 
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The video below is purported to be of the 777 shoot down in Ukraine. Note that @11 seconds into the video Chaff streamers are floating down on to the wreckage site. Chaff is dispensed from military aircraft to obscure an aircraft from RADAR and RADAR guided missiles. The presence of the Chaff indicates something is not right about the story being told.
IF this is video of the 777 shoot down in Ukraine, it indicates that a military aircraft was involved in the shoot down. This could be anything from a fighter actually shooting down the 777, to a fighter shadowing the 777 and having to launch Chaff to avoid a missile.
What ever the case, the glittering streamers and specs in the video show that the official story being told is not correct.
 

Well.... here is some more strangeness!

http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2014/07/a-must-read-article-absolutely-diabolical-mh17-hauled-gruesome-cargo-infected-corpses-world-war-z-is-2642364.html

A Must Read Article (& Theory!) – Absolutely Diabolical! MH17 Hauled Gruesome Cargo, Infected Corpses & Tainted Blood – World War Z is…
Saturday, July 19, 2014 23:16
[Ed. Note: Before dismissing this article (& resulting theory) too quickly, we suggest reading our November, 2011 article The Real Life CONTAGION Will Be Premeditated And By Design]
The blatant violation of international laws for transporting infectious agents indicates a criminal intent in their use at destination… Drained of blood and reeking from decay, the corpses can be nothing other than carriers of an infectious disease.
by Yoichi Shimatsu, Rense:
In these still early hours following the mystery crash of MH17, one must dare to think the unthinkable. An investigator goes to where the evidence leads, and the evidence so far from the crash site indicates a hellish scenario beyond imagining.
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Besides the nearly 300 passengers aboard the ill-fated Malaysian Airlines, the plane’s cargo bay was loaded with dozens of infected corpses drained of their blood and countless packets of possibly virus-contaminated blood serum, according to the local eyewitnesses, first-arrivers at the crash site in the Donetsk region along Ukraine-Russia borderlands.
The gruesome finding points irrefutably to Malthusian skulduggery at the highest levels of the World Health Organization (WHO) in sponsoring a covert biological warfare program against the population of Asia. A systematic investigation is now required to uncover the deadliest plot against humanity in modern history …
 
… The notable failure by the Israeli-controlled Amsterdam-Schiphol Airport customs clearance, in addition to the WHO and IATA, to warn emergency crews and investigators at the crash site of the epidemic danger proves that the gruesome cargo was transported illegally without registration.
The UN and WHO are directly implicated in this covert transfer of biowarfare agents in the cargo hold, accompanying some 100 of their top virus researchers, staff members and NGO supporters in the passenger cabin.
According to rebel commander Igor Girson, who goes by the nom de guerre Strelkov, as quoted by AP, reported that local villagers who rushed to the crash scene found “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh.” The first-responders also said the corpses had been drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.
Could the cadavers have been air-freighted for simple anatomy classes? That is a freshman question. Paying air-cargo fees to send bodies to Asia is more of a financial loss than sending coals to Newcastle. There is no shortage of fresh John Does on ice from places like the Philippines. Drained of blood and reeking from decay, the corpses can be nothing other than carriers of an infectious disease.
Decomposed cadavers and tainted blood exposed to wind, soil and ground water pose a present and clear threat to public health for millions of people across Ukraine, western Russia and the countries of the Black Sea, including Moldova, Turkey and even as far as Greece. A regional warning needs to be issued, but none is forthcoming, not when the WHO is implicated while its executives, the hidden elitist sponsors of genocide, scramble for the cover of respectability. These reprobates nestled in the medical bureaucracy are far worse than ordinary war criminals. (continued)
Read More @ Rense.com

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/07/russian-commander-bodies-dead-for-days-before-flight-took-off-2995572.html

Russian Commander: Bodies Dead For Days Before Flight Took Off
Friday, July 18, 2014 17:28
Plane loaded with dead bodies and shot down, confirmed by Washington Times
From http://www.jimstonefreelance.com
 
MH17 all but completely proven to be flight 370
The bodies were dead for days before the flight and smelling of rot according to top military commander at the scene, which would be expected if they were actually from flight 370. They would have been loaded on the plane dead to make sure none could speak about what went on.
 
 
From the Washington Times: People dead LONG BEFORE plane took off
“MOSCOW — A top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine has given a bizarre version of events surrounding the Malaysian jetliner crash — suggesting many of the victims may have died days before the plane took off. The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh,” adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.”
 
My comment: This strongly supports MH370 as being the real shoot down plane, with all passengers dead long before and probably being taken off of ice and loaded into the plane for final disposal. If a body is already dead before a crash, crash damage will not show up the same way it will with live bodies. This is probably why so many of the bodies in the wreckage do not show serious burns or blood. A good example of this effect is to take a piece of chicken and throw it in a hot pan for a few seconds. If you remove it from the hot pan within a short time, it will look totally uncooked. Yet if you put your hand on that hot pan for even half a second, it will be badly burned, and show it. Live flesh shows injury easily because of the way living cells respond to injury. If the bodies were dead for days and possibly loaded onto the plane well chilled it would explain a lot about their relatively undamaged appearance in the wreckage.

"Russian air space control systems detected a Ukrainian Air Force plane, presumably an SU-25 (fighter jet), scrambling in the direction of the Malaysian Boeing ... The distance of the SU-25 plane from the Boeing was from 3 to 5 kilometres (2 to 3 miles)," Air Force Lieutenant-General Igor Makushev said.

"Earlier, Ukrainian officials said that on the day of the Boeing 777 crash there were no military aircraft in the region - as you can see this does not appear to be true."

Another officer, Lieutenant-General Andrei Kartopolov, said that, "whether it is a coincidence or not", a U.S. satellite had been monitoring the area at the time.

"We also have some questions for our U.S. partners," he said. "According to the U.S. declarations, they have satellite images that confirm the missile was launched by the rebels. But nobody has seen these images." "If the American side has pictures from this satellite, then they should show the international community."

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-challenges-accusations-ukraine-rebels-shot-down-airliner-133233867--finance.html;_ylt=AwrBEiLfPM1TfwUABWjQtDMD

Consistent with previous assertions, why would pro-russian rebels fire on such an aircraft just prior to it entering russian airspace.

Better figure this out soon or it'll be the coldest winter europe has seen since the dark ages because without russian gas they have a big problem.

Japan was faced with some similar energy issues prior to WWII and joined the German aggression.

Yeah, nobody is reporting much about the two military fighter jets that people have said they witnessed following the 777 close behind right before the downing of the Boeing. Everyone seems to have forgotten (or spiked) that story somehow. I would like to see more paper and ink devoted to that aspect of this story. How about satellite imagery? How about radar recordings?

“ALL FLIGHTS, INCLUDING MALAYSIAN B777, WERE BEING ESCORTED BY UKRAINIAN SU-27 FLANKER JETS OVER EASTERN UKRAINE”

http://theaviationist.com/2014/07/21/su-27s-escorted-mh17/


" Ukraine's State Aviation Service has extended the ban on civil flights to the entire zone of law enforcement operation in the east of the country, State Aviation Service chief Denys Antoniuk told Interfax-Ukraine on July 8."

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ban-introduced-on-civil-flights-over-zone-of-military-operation-in-eastern-ukraine-355201.html

Yet we're to believe they blindly wandered over a hostile SAM battery?

Here's another interesting one at the aviationist, usually pretty sane stuff.

"Anyway, even though we reported the speculations about the alleged Ukrainian military activity in the surroundings of the MH17 flight, we can’t but notice that the graphic used by the Russian MoD has another major flaw: it depicts (on the left) the Boeing 777 as a Boeing 707, and the Su-25 (on the right) with the shape of an EF-111 Raven, a famous, retired, U.S. electronic warfare plane!"

veiled hint or coldwar era graphic, maybe both

http://theaviationist.com/2014/07/21/ef-111-in-russia-graphic/#disqus_thread

http://www.prisonplanet.com/mh17-lost-speed-altitude-and-veered-14km-off-course-before-being-tailed-by-ukrainian-jet.html

‘MH17 lost speed, altitude and veered 14km off course before being tailed by Ukrainian jet’

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WILL STEWART and KIERAN CORCORAN
UK Daily Mail
July 22, 2014
A series of increasingly outlandish and sensational claims are being made by the Russian military to explain why flight MH17 crashed in Ukraine, contradicting the general Western consensus that it was shot out of the sky by pro-Moscow separatists.
The claims include the implication that a Ukrainian military jet could have tailed the plane and shot it out of the sky, to outright denials that it has supplied the separatists with surface-to-air missiles, despite U.S. claims yesterday that armaments were seen being driven across the border just days before.
The new theory was delivered by a Russian general, Andrei Kartapolov, the head of the General Staff’s Main Operational Directorate at a press conference today, as outrage international outrage gathered at Russia and the separatists over the handling of the crisis, and in particular the bodies of the victims.
‘An altitude gain was detected for a Ukrainian combat jet, supposedly a Su-25, flying at a distance of 3-5 kilometers from the Boeing,’ said Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov.
Full article here

We'll never know. If you want to roll all the conspiracies into one:

Maybe a Ukrainian Sukhoi fired on it, actually causing the SAM launch. That old Soviet stuff might be a little out of date, but they would have known he launched but would have assumed they had an inbound,  at which everythings flyin'. The sukhoi climbed out like the article said, using the doomed and sizeable 777 as his 'pick'.

Or there never was a Sukhoi but in its stead a NATO spook that electronically convinced big dumb ivan (rebel et. all)he was being fired upon, end result mh17 tragedy (& KLM4103 too).

"Atlas Vision is canceled. But Rapid Trident is still a go. 

The status of two annual U.S. Army Europe military exercises that were scheduled for July — one in Russia, one in western Ukraine — is being affected differently by the situation in Ukraine, which has been described as the worst crisis since the end of the Cold War. The fact that the U.S. and its allies chose to go ahead with an exercise in Ukraine while canceling the one in Russia demonstrates Western support for Kiev in its confrontation with Moscow. . . .

[P]lanning for Rapid Trident 2014 — a large, USAREUR-led multinational exercise scheduled for July — is ongoing, he [EUCOM spokesman Lt. Col. David Westover] said."

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/us-army-to-proceed-with-planned-exercise-in-ukraine

http://news.yahoo.com/us-tracked-missile-that-brought-down-malaysian-airlines-flight-17-222751385.html

Yahoo News wrote:

US tracked missile that brought down Malaysian Airlines Flight 17

By Olivier Knox, Yahoo News 1 hour ago   Yahoo News  

The United States detected the launch of the “specific missile” that brought down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 last week, a senior administration official told reporters on Tuesday.

U.S. intelligence followed “this specific missile” as it was fired from “a geographic area” controlled by Russia-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine, said the official, who requested anonymity. It followed the near-vertical flight path characteristic of an SA-11 launch.

“We did pick up a launch. We were able to have the ability to track this specific launch,” the official said. It was not clear whether the official was referring to real-time monitoring by U.S. intelligence, or whether they went back through surveillance data after learning of the attack.

The official spoke as the United States ramped up efforts to convince skeptics that Moscow-backed rebels armed and trained by Russia shot down the passenger jet, killing all 298 people aboard. Russia has disputed the largely circumstantial American case and rejected responsibility.

“We don’t know who, like, pulled the trigger,” the official said. “We don’t know that a Russian was operating the system. However, that in no way precludes Russian involvement in the sense that they are the most likely source for this system.”

“We assign responsibility generally to Russia for how the separatists are armed and trained,” the official said. “What we have is a kind of picture of evidence that says the Russians have been providing these arms, these types of systems, and the Russians have been providing training — and that adds up to a picture that implicates Russia,” but “we’re going to be careful about saying who did it if we don’t know for certain.”

“We don’t know who literally was operating the system that day,” the official said. “That’s the hardest thing to determine.”

From the comments section and so soooo true:
 

Mr. Fudd wrote:

This is like my wife saying she knows exactly which sperm got her pregnant. Like, who cares?

Mr. Fudd, in his humorous way makes a great point. It was the Russians (husband) who provided the missiles (sperm) so who cares which one fired the weapon (name that specific one spermatozoa)? The outcome still implicates the weapon donating Russians (sperm donating husband).