I was listening to Messiahs Branch podcast and Steve Hendrson asked why we think Daniel ch 8 is fullfilled when it says clearly it is for the time of the end? this is the ram and goat chapter. I can't answer this question. i have been taught repeatedly that this was fullfilled by Alex the great and I blindly believed after all those teachers are much smarter than we lowly students right? Maybe not.
Steve made me question so I read the chapter again. Have you ever noticed that the goat comes from far away in the west to fight the ram and he doesnt touch the ground?
5 And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. 6 And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power. 7 And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand. 8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
what if this is the USA?
will we break into 4 parts?
I would love to hear your opinions.
Subject: What if we USA are the goat? 
Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:08 pm
