France Warns Of War! Putin Issues Warning To NWO: "This World Order Will Never Suit Russia"
By Susan Duclos
Angela Merkel, the German chancellor and France's President Francois Hollande basically just told Barack Obama to butt out of the Ukraine/Russia conflict. Of course they were far more diplomatic in their wording, but the meaning remains the same after both Merkel and Hollande sat down with Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss the ongoing tensions between Ukraine and Russia.
Merkel's warning in regards to the ongoing push by the Obama administration to send more advanced weapons to Ukraine, was that the west should not attempt to intimidate Vladimir Putin, stating "I cannot imagine any situation in which improved equipment for the Ukrainian army leads to President Putin being so impressed that he believes he will lose militarily. I have to put it that bluntly."
Merkel goes to indicate that Obama should butt out, by saying "I grew up in East Germany, I have seen the Wall. The Americans did not intervene in the Wall, but in the end we won."
Hollandes warning was far more dire as The Telegraph states "Francois Hollande warns it could lead to war."
Hollande is not the only one warning of a world war in the making, one where "there won't be anything left," as Former Assistant Secretary of Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts, stated recently, asserting that the people in charge of US policy are making "reckless and very dangerous" decisions and that we are being pushed toward nuclear war where the "whole world loses."
Former soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev has also issued more than one warning, highlighting the very real possibility of pushing Vladimir Putin to the point where a nuclear World War III could become unavoidable.
Vladimir Putin has made his position very clear in a speech given to trade union activists, when he stated ""There clearly is an attempt to restrain our development with different means. There is an attempt to perturb the existing world order... with one incontestable leader who wants to remain as such thinking he is allowed everything while others are only allowed what he allows and only in his interests.This world order will never suit Russia."
That is as clear as it gets, Putin is bucking the New World Order and everything done to date from inserting a neo-nazi regime as leadership in Ukraine, to the sanctions against Russia, to these new threats to arm the Ukranians, has occurred because Putin will not fall in line with the NWO agenda.
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Subject: Europe Fractures: France Pivots To Putin, Cyprus Offers Moscow Military Base, Germany-US Splinter On Ukraine Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:34 pm
Europe Fractures: France Pivots To Putin, Cyprus Offers Moscow Military Base, Germany-US Splinter On Ukraine Published: February 8, 2015
Following yesterday's summary of the utter farce that the Minsk Summit/Ukraine "peace" deal talks have become, the various parties involved appear to be fracturing even faster today. The headlines are coming thick and fast but most prescient appears to be: Despite John Kerry's denial of any split between Germany and US over arms deliveries to Ukraine, German Foreign Minister Steinmeier slammed Washington's strategy for being "not just risky but counterproductive." But perhaps most significantly is France's continued apparent pivot towards Russia... Following Francois Hollande's calls for greater autonomy for Eastern Ukraine, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy has come out in apparent support of Russia (and specifically against the US), "we are part of a common civilization with Russia,” adding, "the interests of the Americans with the Russians are not the interests of Europe and Russia." Even NATO appears to have given up hope of peace as Stoltenberg's statements show little optimism and the decision by Cyprus to allow Russia to use its soil for military facilities suggests all is not at all well in the European 'union'. German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier doubled down on Germany's rejection of weapons deliveries to Ukraine in a speech here Sunday...
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*GABRIEL SAYS GERMAN SPD WOULD NEVER BACK ARMS TO UKRAINE
*EUROPE SEES U.S. ARMS DELIVERIES TO UKRAINE AS BAD IDEA: LAVROV
"I see this, to say it openly, as not just for risky but for counter-productive," Mr. Steinmeier said at the Munich Security Conference. Mr. Steinmeier also hit back at open criticism of Germany's position on weapons deliveries from U.S. Senators and others here on Saturday. The White House is mulling delivering weapons to Ukraine to support the country's fight against pro-Russia separatists in the country's east. "Perhaps we are so insistent because we know the region a bit," Mr. Steinmeier said.
But John Kerry says, everything's fine... as he denies any split between U.S. and Europe on Russia policy...
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Secretary of State John Kerry on Sunday denied any divisions between the U.S. and Europe over how to handle Russia, as Germany announced another high-level summit aimed at stemming the crisis in Ukraine. Kerry told a security conference in Munich that he wanted to "assure everybody there is no division, there is no split" between Washington and its European allies amid the crisis in Ukraine.
"We are united, we are working closely together," he told the conference following meetings with his French and German counterparts. "We all agree that this challenge will not end through military force. We are united in our diplomacy."
But perhaps most significantly is France's continued apparent pivot towards Russia... Following Francois Hollande's calls for greater autonomy for Eastern Ukraine, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy has come out in apparent support of Russia (and specifically against the US).
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“We are part of a common civilization with Russia,” said Sarkozy, speaking on Saturday at the congress of the Union for a Popular Movement Party (UMP), which the former president heads. “The interests of the Americans with the Russians are not the interests of Europe and Russia,” he said adding that “we do not want the revival of a Cold War between Europe and Russia.” “Crimea has chosen Russia, and we cannot blame it [for doing so],” he said pointing out that “we must find the means to create a peacekeeping force to protect Russian speakers in Ukraine.”
And then Cyprus joins the fracture party, offering to sign a military cooperation agreement on Feb 25th offering Russia the use of military facilities on its soil...
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The air force base at which Russian planes will use is about 40 kilometers from Britain's sovereign Air Force base at Akrotiri, on the south shores of Cyprus, which provides support to NATO operations in the Middle and Near East regions
Even NATO appears to know the "peace deal" is not coming...
STOLTENBERG: 'IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY' IF MINSK PRODUCES CEASE-FIRE
But there is still hope.. as Germany's Vice-Chanceller hopes...
*GERMANY'S GABRIEL `CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC' ABOUT MINSK SUMMIT
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*PUTIN MUST TAKE EU'S `OUTSTRETCHED HAND,' GABRIEL SAYS
But adds...
*EU SEEKS POST-CRISIS PARTNERSHIP RENEWAL WITH RUSSIA: GABRIEL
We will know soon...
*RUSSIA SAYS FEB. 9-10 UKRAINE MEETINGS TO PREPARE MINSK SUMMIT
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Subject: Clear Message!!! Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:47 pm
Video: Spectacular Explosion Leaves A Mushroom Cloud In Eastern Ukraine Sunday, February 8, 2015 17:19
The explosion occurred west of Donetsk around 22:50 local time (20:50 GMT) and caused a shock wave that swept the city. In many parts of Donetsk felt a shock and detonation destroyed windows. According to the data of social networks, the explosion was felt even in the neighboring cities of Makeyevka and Gorlovka.
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Subject: Re: IMPORTANT READ >> War Looms!!! video links up UPDATED Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:04 am
Holy Toledo Batman . . . y'all think that was a small nuke maybe? I figure camera was about three miles away from explosion by counting out one Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi all the way out to fifteen Mississippi. For those not in the know counting out Mississippi this way is an old trick to learn the approximate miles from seeing a distant lightning strike until thunder is heard. No reason it wouldn't work for this too.
http://www.eo.ucar.edu/kids/dangerwx/tstorm6.htm
After you see a flash of lightning, count the number of seconds until you hear the thunder. (Use the stop watch or count "One-Mississippi, Two-Mississippi, Three-Mississippi," etc.)
For every 5 seconds the storm is one mile away. Divide the number of seconds you count by 5 to get the number of miles.
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Subject: Re: IMPORTANT READ >> War Looms!!! video links up UPDATED Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:24 am
This from Russia Today. They are saying that a big chemical plant was hit.
Maybe . . . then again maybe not. Until proven otherwise I'm still leaning towards the possibility of a small tactical nuke. With a small tactical nuke one could go right in afterwards to put out fires etc. without much danger of radiation since there wouldn't have been much radioactive material to start with. Go look at the videos at the link and decide for yourselves though.
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Subject: Re: IMPORTANT READ >> War Looms!!! video links up UPDATED Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:09 am
The aftershock on that thing was pretty amazing whatever it was.
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Subject: Re: IMPORTANT READ >> War Looms!!! video links up UPDATED Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:59 am
researcher wrote:
This from Russia Today. They are saying that a big chemical plant was hit.
Maybe . . . then again maybe not. Until proven otherwise I'm still leaning towards the possibility of a small tactical nuke. With a small tactical nuke one could go right in afterwards to put out fires etc. without much danger of radiation since there wouldn't have been much radioactive material to start with. Go look at the videos at the link and decide for yourselves though.
I have nothing to back this up, but I don't think it was a small nuke, or a nuke at all. You may recall several months ago a similar explosion(s) in Syria. If it(they) were nukes we would have known by now. JMHO.
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Subject: Re: IMPORTANT READ >> War Looms!!! video links up UPDATED Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:14 pm
Yeah, billetman, I think you might be right. Searching through the mainstream news this morning yielded very little about this explosion. Fox and NBC both had the story and if there had been anything like a nuke, even a tiny nuke, it would be plastered all over the news.
[size=30]Moscow Times Warns Of 'Global Escalation' Of Conflict! Russia To Declare War If US Arms Ukraine![/size]
By Live Free Or Die - All News Pipeline
With Barack Obama, NATO and the west preparing to arm the nation of the Ukraine with lethal aid, this bombshell comes to us straight from the pages of the Moscow Times and the video report below from All News Pipeline friend Freedom Fighter Reportsas Russia has announced they will declare war if the United States arms Ukraine. Edging ever closer to the fulfillment of prophecy, this Moscow Times story informs us that Russia would see the arming of Ukraine AS a declaration of war by the US and the west and furthermore see the US as a 'direct participant in the conflict'.
With Ukraine now at a 'dangerous crossroads', the west is said to be trying to find an end to the conflict via 'peace talks' while the Kremlin strikes out at Angela Merkel and the west by warning to never issue ultimatum's to Putinafter their latest bid to force Putin to agree to the 'peace plan' by Wednesday or face the latest round of sanctions. Informing us that 'the ante' is ready to be upped if Obama and the west arm Ukraine, we're also told that 'Washington or its' allies' could be responded to 'asymmetrically' on other fronts as the 1st real signs of World War 3 coming home to America are now being seen. The 2nd video below is an excellent compilation on recent news events leading up to WW3 coming to America called "WW3 News, Russia & West, No Peace In Hell."
U.S. provision of military aid to Ukraine would be seen by Moscow as a declaration of war and spark a global escalation of Ukraine's separatist conflict, Russian defense analysts said.
With Russia-backed rebels in eastern Ukraine seizing new territory from the Ukrainian army, voices in Washington are demanding that Kiev be given defensive weapons and hardware — including lethal equipment — to hold the line.
But if such aid were sent, "Russia would reasonably consider the U.S. to be a direct participant in the conflict," said Evgeny Buzhinsky, a military expert at the Moscow-based PIR Center.
Speaking to The Moscow Times on a condition of anonymity, a member of the Russian Defense Ministry's public advisory board warned that Moscow would not only up the ante in eastern Ukraine, "but also respond asymmetrically against Washington or its allies on other fronts."
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Subject: Banking Fits Into The Equation Also Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:38 am
Video: Ukraine Town Hit By 24 Rockets In Two Minutes Published: February 10, 2015
Source: Vocative
A resident of Kramatorsk, Ukraine, captured a two-minute bombardment of the town, showing 24 separate explosions pummeling homes and buildings. Separatist forces launched the rockets as part of their attacks on the Ukrainian government’s military headquarters.
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After Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Tuesday that rocket strikes had hit the military headquarters in Kramatorsk and a nearby residential area, the pro-Russian rebels denied they were the culprit.
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Subject: Report: White House Preparing Military Response If Diplomacy With Russia Fails: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:00 pm
Report: White House Preparing Military Response If Diplomacy With Russia Fails: “Lethal Defensive Weapons” and Other Options Being Examined
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The world is now on the cusp of total war. This is the claim made by former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Paul Craig Roberts in a recent editorial. And though doom predictions are quite popular given what’s going on in the world as of late, to disregard Roberts’ assessment as fear-mongering or hype would be short-sighted and dangerous. No, this time is not different, and if political leaders around the world, especially in the United States, Russia and Europe, don’t come to an agreement on the future of Ukraine then it is only a matter of time before we eventually cross the line into a scenario from which there is no return – for all we know, we may have already crossed it at this point. While the American media has generally ignored the broader implications of what’s happening in Ukraine, often dismissing it as Europe’s problem and one that has no long-term ramifications for the U.S., the fact is that the United States is directly involved in not only the political machinations behind the scenes of Ukraine’s new government, but military operations as evidenced by recent videos showing armed American-English speaking personnel on the ground during the recent artillery shelling of the city of Mariupol. This weekend European leaders from France and Germany met with Vladimir Putin to negotiate a peace settlement. President Obama attended as well, but the Nobel Peace Prize winner seems to be there just as a formality because he made no effort to put forth a peace plan of any kind. In fact, if anything, Obama suggested that he is prepared to take things to the next level if Vladimir Putin doesn’t agree to the West’s demands. According to a report from the BBC President Obama has made it clear that the United States is on a war footing with Russia and we are now exploring all available options to deal with Putin should things in the Ukraine sour.
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US President Barack Obama says yes to diplomacy, but then adds: “Now, it is true that if, in fact, diplomacy fails, what I’ve asked my team to do is to look at all options. “What other means can we put in place to change Mr Putin’s calculus? And the possibility of lethal defensive weapons is one of those options that’s being examined.”
While Europe maintains that they want to find a solution in the Ukraine, it seems that the United States is making demands that Russia refuses to agree to. But Russia is having none of it. This morning a Kremlin spokesman was quoted by Russian media as saying that “nobody has ever talked to the president in the tone of an ultimatum – and could not do so even if they wanted to,” an obvious response to whatever negotiations were taking place behind closed doors. Russia and the United States have sparred back and forth for decades, but the situation in the Ukraine seems to be the most serious since the end of the cold war and one that could escalate to widespread conflict should cooler heads not prevail. President Obama, of course, isn’t the only one leaving military options on the table. Vladimir Putin himself recently warned that Russia will not put up with the West’s “hostile acts” and suggested nuclear consequences are one possible outcome if a peace deal is not reached:
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He accused Barack Obama of adopting a “hostile” approach in naming Russia as a threat to the world in the U.S. president’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly on Sept. 24. “We hope that our partners will realize the futility of attempts to blackmail Russia and remember what consequences discord between major nuclear powers could bring for strategic stability,” Putin told Serbia’s Politika newspaper on the eve of his visit to the Balkan nation today. Putin said that Obama had identified Russian aggression in Europe as one of the three “major threats facing humanity,” alongside the Ebola virus and Islamic State. “Together with the sanctions against entire sectors of our economy, this approach can be called nothing but hostile,” Putin said. Full report
Last month the Russian President ordered strategic nuclear bombers to fly over the English channel into civilian air traffic corridors as a show of force to the West. He’s also reportedly sent bombers along the west coast of the United States from Alaska to California, and it has been suggested that the flybys may have also been responsible for a widespread outage of air traffic control systems in Los Angeles. What’s happening behind the closed doors of national security meetings in the United States and Russia will remain hidden from the public. Unfortunately, we’ll be the last to know and should these leaders fail to come to an agreement in Europe we may only find out once the missiles start flying. It’s starting to look like the world really is on the cusp of total war. Recommended Reading: Watch: Putin laughs in journalist’s face The Blueprint for World War III : “This War Will Be Utterly Devastating” Nukes and Fallout: How to Survive When Others Won’t Prepare For Any Disaster
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Subject: Sweden Proposes Aggressive Nordic Defense Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:39 pm
Sweden Proposes Aggressive Nordic Defense Published: February 10, 2015
Source: Defense News
On Sweden's agenda is development of joint Nordic situational awareness initiatives to strengthen air and sea cooperation and improve early warning systems. Significantly, Sweden has asked NORDEFCO to examine the feasibility of assembling a modular-style Nordic-Baltic Battle Group (NBBG) modeled on the European Union's Swedish-led standby Nordic Battle Group (NBG). The 1,600-strong NBG already comprises forces from Finland and Norway, as well as the NATO-aligned Baltic states Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Swedish interest in forming a Nordic-Baltic battlegroup stems from regional concerns that more concrete and credible measures are urgently needed to better protect strategic areas, such as the High North, Arctic region and the Baltic Sea area. The push to scale-up Nordic-Baltic defense cooperation is reflected in NORDEFCO's 2014 Annual Report, released Feb. 2, which underlines the deepening sense of unease over Russia's actions in Ukraine and the flexing of its military muscle in the High North and Baltic Sea regions. "2014 has been an eventful year for Nordic defense cooperation. Russia's annexation of the Crimea and its intervention in eastern Ukraine has changed the European security landscape, with implications also in our own Nordic region," said Norwegian Defense Minister Ine Eriksen Søreide. NORDEFCO, said Søreide, has evolved from being an intra-Nordic forum for contact and dialogue on defense and security policy matters to an organization that not only pursues greater military interoperability and cooperation in armaments, but also strengthened collaboration within the Nordic defense industry sector. Creation of a Nordic defense and security commission is the best way to establish a functional structure to spur defense collaboration, said Bertel Haarder, the first vice president of the Nordic Council's Presidium.
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