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PostSubject: Has Babylon Already Fallen?   Has Babylon Already Fallen? I_icon_minitimeMon May 06, 2013 10:37 pm

A good read, lots of information to digest......

Has Babylon Already Fallen?

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Posted on May 5, 2013 by CARLOS MONTAÑA

There are many verses in the Bible which describe the approaching physical fall of prophetic end times Babylon, also called Babylon the Great and the Daughter of Babylon. This nation is the United States of America. For proof of this, read my articles below especially the Bibliography listing-

http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/the-colors-worn-and-adorned-by-the-harlot-of-revelation/

http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/babylon-babylon-an-investigation-of-the-prophetic-significance-the-implications-of-this-new-york-town-positioned-at-the-gateway-to-america/

http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2012/05/06/how-is-the-hammer-of-the-whole-earth-cut-asunder-and-broken-a-detailed-study-of-the-nations-and-peoples-who-attack-and-utterly-destroy-the-daughter-of-babylon-aka-america-the-beautiful/

http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/a-bibliography-america-as-end-times-babylon-part-i-the-books/

These articles will also reveal the relevant Chapters in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Revelation, and other Books in order that you may research the identity of end times Babylon on your own.

Now that I’ve cleared this up I’ll get back to the point of the current article. First, this will involve a study of all five Bible verses containing both the words “Babylon” (or implied from previous verse) and “fallen”.

Jeremiah 50:15-

“Shout against her round about: she hath given her hand: her foundations are fallen, her walls are thrown down: for it is the vengeance of the LORD: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done, do unto her.“

Jeremiah 51:8-

“Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed.“

The following three verses are the only verses in the Bible which mention Babylon as “fallen, fallen”, a double or confirmed “falling” if you will. For these verses, I will list the respective verse order numbers (VO#).

VO#: 18045; Isaiah 21:9-

“And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.“

And Gematria values of the applicable words here-

Babylon בבל H0894 Babel 34

is fallen, נפל H5307 naphal 160

is fallen; נפל H5307 naphal 160

34 – 160 = -126 [Babylon is fallen]

34 – 160 = -126 [Babylon (implied) is fallen]

126 + 126 = 252

Stunningly, the word “Babylon” itself occurs 252 times in the King James Bible; here’s the proof-

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.php?SearchBy_Word=Babylon

Furthermore, the associated number 2520 is identified as the numerical value of the Writing on the Wall (see Flynn, 2008) in Daniel 5-

24 Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.

25 And this is the writing that was written, Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin.

26 This is the interpretation of the thing: Mene; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it.

27 Tekel; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.

28 Peres; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.

The writing was on the wall of Belshazzar’s palace on the night ancient Babylon fell. President Obama of modern Babylon is a prophetic “type” of Belshazzar-

http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2011/06/03/this-strange-president-the-tuesday-factor-is-barack-hussein-obama-a-%E2%80%9Ctype%E2%80%9D-of-belshazzar/

http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/the-number-of-his-name-barack-hussein-obama-deciphered-revealed/

The word for “fallen” is in Hebrew “naphal”, and it is Strong’s H5397-

נפל naphal {naw-fal’} a primitive root; TWOT – 1392; v AV – fail 318, fall down 25, cast 18, cast down 9, fall away 5, divide 5, overthrow 5, present 5, lay 3, rot 3, accepted 2, lie down 2, inferior 2, lighted 2, lost 2, misc 22; 434 1) to fall, lie, be cast down, fail 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to fall 1a2) to fall (of violent death) 1a3) to fall prostrate, prostrate oneself before 1a4) to fall upon, attack, desert, fall away to , go away to, fall into the hand of 1a5) to fall short, fail, fall out, turn out, result 1a6) to settle, waste away, be offered, be inferior to 1a7) to lie, lie prostrate 1b) (Hiphil) 1b1) to cause to fall, fell, throw down, knock out, lay prostrate 1b2) to overthrow 1b3) to make the lot fall, assign by lot, apportion by lot 1b4) to let drop, cause to fail (fig.) 1b5) to cause to fall 1c) (Hithpael) 1c1) to throw or prostrate oneself, throw oneself upon 1c2) to lie prostrate, prostrate oneself 1d) (Pilel) to fall

The next two verses containing “Babylon” and “fallen, fallen” are from Revelation in the New Testament.

VO#: 30935; Revelation 14:8-

“And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.“

Babylon Βαβυλων G0897 Babulon 1285
is fallen, Πιπτω G4098 pipto 1270
is fallen, Πιπτω G4098 pipto 1270
1285 – 1270 = 15 [Babylon is fallen]

1285 – 1270 = 15 [Babylon (implied) is fallen]

Linking 15 and 15 together as “1515″ reveals a key number which appears to point to circa late 2013 as one “fall” of Babylon America. This will be addressed in great detail within a future article. For now, please note that I published an article about Hebrew year 5774 back in early 2011; here-

http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/america%e2%80%99s-destiny-foretold-within-her-landscape-part-i-mississippi-river-2013-code/

VO#: 30996; Revelation 18:2-

“And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.“

Babylon Βαβυλων G0897 Babulon 1285
is fallen, Πιπτω G4098 pipto 1270
is fallen, Πιπτω G4098 pipto 1270
Again, we have the 1285 – 1270 and “1515″ coding!

The word for “fallen” is in Greek “pipto”, and it is Strong’s G4098-

πιπτω pipto {pip’-to} a reduplicated and contracted form of peto {pet’-o}, (which occurs only as an alternate in certain tenses), probably akin to 4072 through the idea of alighting; TDNT – 6:161,846; v AV – fall 69, fall down 19, light 1, fail 1; 90 1) to descend from a higher place to a lower 1a) to fall (either from or upon) 1a1) to be thrust down 1b) metaph. to fall under judgment, came under condemnation 2) to descend from an erect to a prostrate position 2a) to fall down 2a1) to be prostrated, fall prostrate 2a2) of those overcome by terror or astonishment or grief or under the attack of an evil spirit or of falling dead suddenly 2a3) the dismemberment of a corpse by decay 2a4) to prostrate one’s self 2a5) used of suppliants and persons rendering homage or worship to one 2a6) to fall out, fall from i.e. shall perish or be lost 2a7) to fall down, fall into ruin: of buildings, walls etc. 2b) to be cast down from a state of prosperity 2b1) to fall from a state of uprightness 2b2) to perish, i.e come to an end, disappear, cease 2b2a) of virtues 2b3) to lose authority, no longer have force 2b3a) of sayings, precepts, etc. 2b4) to be removed from power by death 2b5) to fail of participating in, miss a share in

Within the Appendix I will summarize the various potential meanings of “fallen” in both Greek and Hebrew.

For now, however, to find the average verse order number of those dealing with Babylon and “fallen, fallen”, we simply add the three verse order numbers together and divide this sum by three, as such-

30996 + 30935 + 18045 = 79976

79976 / 3 = 26658.666

Considering the remainder of 666 to represent an antichrist coding and the whole number 26658 to represent a Babylon code, I checked-

VO#: 26658; John 13:27-

“And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.“

This is the verse which deals with the indwelling of Satan into the person of Judas Iscariot, a supposed follower of Christ who was a prophetic “type” of antichrist. The final American President is to become the final antichrist, as we read here; Isaiah 14-

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Personally, I have no trouble reconciling this series of verses with the current President, one Barack Hussein Obama who, like Judas, claims to be a follower of Christ yet clearly betrays His teachings and actually persecutes the saints in America (this will get much worse, mark my words). Read more of Isaiah 14 in context to see the relationship between the King of Babylon (the future antichrist), and his nation Babylon America-

22 For I will rise up against them, saith the Lord of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the Lord.

23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the Lord of hosts.

24 The Lord of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

Now, just what are we to understand by the words “fallen, fallen” both as naphal in Hebrew and pipto in Greek? And why did the divinely inspired writers of these verses find it necessary to “double” the word “fallen”? First, when a word is mentioned twice in the Bible it is confirmed. The second “fallen” is therefore a second witness to the testimony that Babylon the Great will indeed fall. Two to three witnesses to decide a matter is per Biblical precedent.

In another sense “fallen, fallen” means a “double” judgment; we read this of America Babylon in the following verse; Revelation 18:6-

“Reward her* even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.“

[*that is to say her = Babylon]

In yet a third sense, I believe that we can look at “fallen, fallen” as a spiritual fall preceding a physical fall. America is clearly in the process of a spiritual “freefall” if she has not already completely fallen in that manner! Thus, in the teaser title for this article “Has Babylon Already Fallen?” I had this spiritual fall in mind. This is merely how nations fall historically; first they turn from God and second they are destroyed both internally and from outside. Clearly America has already practically fallen to the occult. Once her spiritual fall is complete then the physical can be expected to follow shortly. I will show you a profound verse which, I believe, reflects the spiritual fall of Babylon and not particularly or solely the post-physical fall stage; this verse is one we’ve looked at before, Revelation 18:2-

“And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.“

This describes the America of the year 2013 as far as I’m concerned. Prolific levels of abortion; gay marriage; gay this and gay that everywhere you turn; violence in the streets; road rage; rebellious youth; illegal aliens by the tens of millions; the world’s highest levels of prescription drug use and illegal drug abuse; international headquarters of the pornography industry; Hollywood filth; abhorrent music; satanism (both overt and subtle); debts, deficits, and printing of money out of thin air; homelessness; food stamps; toxic foods; an increasingly angry, stressed out populace; suicide; murder-suicide; a rapid slide into a totalitarian police state; etcetera. A Barack Hussein Obama could never have been elected in the America of yesteryear, and not because he’s “black”, but because Americans used to be primarily decent, wholesome people not prone to being outright deceived by a satanic wolf in sheep’s clothing who is in actuality a Marxist revolutionary. I have written of America and implications of the year 2013 here-

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http://nabiy4america.wordpress.com/
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PostSubject: Re: Has Babylon Already Fallen?   Has Babylon Already Fallen? I_icon_minitimeMon May 06, 2013 11:11 pm

Thanks for all these links, will start exploring tomorrow as time permits.
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PostSubject: Re: Has Babylon Already Fallen?   Has Babylon Already Fallen? I_icon_minitimeTue May 07, 2013 8:12 am

the woman adorned in scarlet and purple holding the cup...ive always believed to be the catholic church..churches are refferred to as women in the bible...these colors are even written into their literature....many of the "celebrations" of the rcc come from pagan practices of the babylonians...rome is to be destroyed. i think the leaders of the world are caught up in cahoots with the pope and will share the same sort of fate, but it is the rcc that is the whore of babylon!! the us doesnt profess to have the powers that the church proclaims...vicar of Christ, forgiver of sins and the like...in fact, our government is going out of its way now tp tell the world we arent a Christian nation....just my 88 cent....inflation.
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PostSubject: Re: Has Babylon Already Fallen?   Has Babylon Already Fallen? I_icon_minitimeTue May 07, 2013 8:57 am

I think there are several Babylons, which can make interpreting a bit confusing. Each Babylon is a city-state and marked by an obelisk (they are three but they are one). There are some references in my bible, in Isaiah, concerning Babylon that lead one to think it could also be Jerusalem. Which, if they set up a city-state there, along with another obelisk, may be true as well. I'll look those references up if you'd like to look them over.
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PostSubject: Re: Has Babylon Already Fallen?   Has Babylon Already Fallen? I_icon_minitimeTue May 07, 2013 9:18 am

Babylon the Great has not fallen yet. It may well be related to America, and more specifically - New York City.

No, we do not see the smoke of her burning, or the nations lamenting her fall. It will be a literal disaster and it will be unmistakable in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Has Babylon Already Fallen?   Has Babylon Already Fallen? I_icon_minitimeTue May 07, 2013 9:24 am

Hey, that's right! When Babylon falls, the earth moves out of it's place. Won't be able to miss that one. I have to agree though, we certainly have fallen from what we used to be.
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PostSubject: Re: Has Babylon Already Fallen?   Has Babylon Already Fallen? I_icon_minitimeTue May 07, 2013 12:15 pm

No doubt, America, and the world for that matter is on a serious downhill slide. Falling fast, but there is One to catch us (up) at the end!
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