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researcher Admin
Posts : 14653 Reputation : 962 Join date : 2011-08-13 Age : 72 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:42 am | |
| It's been a long time since we've heard anything from Stewart. I miss his periodic updates with Larry Taylor. Haven't seen one in months and I've been watching for them. Anyway, Borderlands is one of his paid subscriptions. He's put issue 661 up on his page to listen to free so I thought I'd get it linked over here for us to download. I haven't listened to this yet so I don't know what is in it except for what I quote below. It's a pig in a poke. Borderlands 661 Side One: http://www.thelightgate.com/Borderlands%20661%20S1%20Super%20Compressed.mp3 Borderlands 661 Side Two: http://www.thelightgate.com/Borderlands%20661%20S2%20Super%20Compressed.mp3 - Stewart Best wrote:
- We are posting Borderlands 661 here for all to hear free of charge because it is
so important and verifies everything we have been telling people for the last 25+ years. Listen to this young lady who met the Lord just a week or so ago - listen to her testimony and heed it, lest you die in your sins while thinking you are saved and going to heaven - Modern Christianity is a deception of Satan, because they leave out the most important point that proves one is saved. It is missing, it is not present and that is why the Lord sends them all away to eternal ruin. Did you know that Jesus never told you just to have faith you are saved? That you were just to believe you wre saved? Do you know what is missing and what Jesus actually said? | |
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Yaddy
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:03 pm | |
| I listened to it....it's good for unbelievers who are questioning! I get a little bit annoyed by all the Christians who have their own sites and are for ever so critical of every body else, instead of giving those who might be listening and wanting to hear the "Good news"..... all they cop, to begin with, is Christians criticising other Christians...not pleasant!
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Dove Super Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:31 am | |
| I listened to the 2nd audio to hear her testimony. And she tells the truth.
I must have been very fortunate to attend a church where the Holy Spirit was present, as He first made His Presence known to me as I sat in a pew.
But it wasn't until 20 years later that I experienced the infilling with the Anointing and the visible presence of the Lord.
So, they aren't wrong in saying we must continually press in to the Kingdom wherein He dwells for communion with Him and to be conformed by Him to His Image and Likeness.
"I die daily so that He might live in me" yields the Life in and by the Spirit of God, the Living Word, so that His Will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Is it 'other worldly"? You bet it is!!! Praise God!!!
P.S. You know I didn't qualify...didn't earn it...didn't deserve anything at all.
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Delfi Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:37 pm | |
| Right on Dove and Yaddy, - Quote :
19Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things with which one may edify another. | |
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Kitiara
Posts : 412 Reputation : 66 Join date : 2011-11-17
| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:36 pm | |
| Does anybody have a summary of his Dark/Light book? I saw it referenced on his website, but I'm not entirely sure what it's all about. Thanks in advance. | |
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grester
Posts : 7 Reputation : 5 Join date : 2013-02-12 Age : 58 Location : Tennessee
| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:31 am | |
| I normally like Sewart but did not care for that one. It seems he has been hurt at some point by a church and is on a mission to poo poo going to church all together. Quite frankly, I believe the only reason he had her on his program was because she said she heard a voice saying "find Stewart Best, he will tell you the truth". I don't know, the whole episode set off red flashing lights for me. She is offering him validation. | |
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Yaddy
Posts : 777 Reputation : 151 Join date : 2012-01-04 Age : 86
| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:40 pm | |
| Yes....I felt a bit funny about that too....like....go to Stewart? What's wrong with any other good Bible believing church/group/ or..... | |
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Delfi Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:11 am | |
| There was a time when I had been involved in some sin and I walked away from it. I knew I had grieved the Holy Spirit and the Lord. I repented and was working on my relationship with Jesus and I came across Stewarts website. At first I liked it but quickly it harmed me.
He made me feel as if my relationship wasn't up to the "par" it should be and that what I had wasn't really a relationship at all. I was crushed for a while and still have problems to this day, 8 yrs, later with thinking I am imagining my relationship with Him. I pray deeply and believe that my Father and Savior are with me but then that old Stewart crap creeps in and I start having doubts. Plus I think some of the things I've heard him Quote people as saying are lies.
I hope that no one who is young in the faith will ever fall into his grasp. If I had been less sure of my salvation I might not have made it through the doubt he made me feel. That's it, he sows doubt, If you're not a flaming, speaking in tongues hand in hand with the Holy Spirit Christian, you're lost. He made me feel lost. I think he's a bad man. | |
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Yaddy
Posts : 777 Reputation : 151 Join date : 2012-01-04 Age : 86
| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:03 am | |
| Thank you for saying all that....I agree! | |
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Delfi Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:17 am | |
| - Quote :
- Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus had trouble understanding His apostles and those around Him? I thought the Bible said he knew what was in man. I thought it said that he knew their thoughts and their hearts. This created, cursed at birth Jesus is not the God I serve. The God I serve searches the hearts of men and knows what is in man, and what is in man is a desperate need and dependency for Jesus, (Not the Jesus that is taught by Best).
Everything presented so far seems to show that Mr. Best builds his teachings off extra-biblical, unproved, false foundations, which explained by him once is enough to continue building more false construction, till what you end up with is a building that is fit for no one to live in, and should have been condemned in the blue print stage.
Rebuttal to Stewart's teaching's | |
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researcher Admin
Posts : 14653 Reputation : 962 Join date : 2011-08-13 Age : 72 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:34 am | |
| Well, since I posted this I've been watching what ya'll are saying about it. I listened to it the day after I posted it here and something was definitely "off" about it. I couldn't even get through the entire audio set before deleting the whole schmutz. I can't say that I disagree with what everyone has said so far. I did used to enjoy hearing the Best/Taylor updates and was hoping that this would be much the same, but this BL 661 was just pure torture. Like I said in the original posting, "pig in a poke". !! FOXTROT JULIET BRAVO !! | |
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Delfi Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:27 pm | |
| Well, Dove knows how I've struggled with the assurance of my salvation, wondering if I'm doing something wrong or have left something out or I'm not experiencing enough of this or that. That all stems from Stewart getting into my head. I think he's the devil because he got into my head and and sometimes makes me forget the assurance the Word of God gives me, that's so bad and I thought it was 8 yrs but it's been 10 now. I hold on to the promise and try to put stewart out of my head but he's done more damage to me than anyone ever in my life. I only tolerate him here on this forum because people like him, if it was my own personal forum, he would be Off Limits and all his work. | |
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Delfi Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:30 pm | |
| Let me stress, the doubt from stewart is different from the conviction I feel from the Holy Spirit. I now know the difference between the two. | |
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Yaddy
Posts : 777 Reputation : 151 Join date : 2012-01-04 Age : 86
| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:45 pm | |
| I agree with you researcher...I had kinda hoped it would have been something like his interviews with Larry Taylor which I could handle but only just.... he doesn't seem to do those anymore so I don't bother with him........like you I had to stop because it got too much for me! | |
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Jrcole
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:01 pm | |
| New Age Gospel of Stewart Best http://libertytothecaptives.net/stewart_best_newage.html | |
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Dove Super Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:16 pm | |
| - Jrcole wrote:
- New Age Gospel of Stewart Best
http://libertytothecaptives.net/stewart_best_newage.html Well, I 'm having more and more trouble with his teaching methods, but this reference is complete and total nonsense; pure slander. Stewart is SO FAR from New Age this is laughable, except that it's nasty. | |
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Delfi Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:48 pm | |
| What's nasty about it? Stewart teaches that if we don't have some sort of "experience" we are not saved. We are saved by faith! An "experience of power within" sounds very much new agey to me. He teaches that if you don't have this experience you are thrust into the outer darkness. I think that is nasty, I will never ever forget it and that sounds just like Hinduism, experiencing the kundalini to achieve oneness. He may not be talking about kundalini of course, but it's the same method. | |
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Delfi Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:57 pm | |
| Hebrews 11:1 faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen.
Romans 8:24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has?
We live by faith, not sight ~ and I think you could say experiences fall into that category.
turn that upside down, All the people like in K.C. and Canada, those revival things. they're having experiences and think it is from God. Experiences cannot be trusted. Yet he says without one you're doomed. | |
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researcher Admin
Posts : 14653 Reputation : 962 Join date : 2011-08-13 Age : 72 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:04 pm | |
| - Dove wrote:
- Jrcole wrote:
- New Age Gospel of Stewart Best
http://libertytothecaptives.net/stewart_best_newage.html Well, I 'm having more and more trouble with his teaching methods, but this reference is complete and total nonsense; pure slander. Stewart is SO FAR from New Age this is laughable, except that it's nasty. I went and had a look-see at that liberty to the captives web site. Looking around on their home page I got the impression that they had a bone to pick with just about everyone. They seem especially hard on the pre-tribbers and I'm saying that as a post-tribber. Y'all aught to get a chuckle outa that one. As for nasty, I do think that a little more brotherly love could have been shown to those that they feel are in error. I agree with them somewhat in principle but do not agree with their questionable presentation. | |
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Delfi Elite
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Yaddy
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:51 pm | |
| I had a wander over there too...ya know....curiosity and all that? To me...it's another person giving an opinion...discernment is needed there and really whatever web site we go to....we can accept some and leave some....personally I prefer to stick with sites..."like this one " I can read and know that the people who comment are genuine , that is not to say on the other websites they are not...but....you know! (I will stop before I have a completely foot shaped mouth! | |
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Dove Super Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:43 pm | |
| Researcher to the rescue! My comments weren't about your experience, Delfi. I would never minimize what you went through. That would make me a lousy friend, and a worse sister! The man's theology has put me under bigtime condemnation and caused me grief too, so I understand. I honestly just don't want to have to suffer more through that condemnation to be sure of what he's saying and presume to present it here. But I have heard and read enough to know that the website's accusation that he is "New Age" is just so far out there....of all the things that don't fit, that was one. And it bothers me that anybody can get online and say whatever they want about another. If Stewart is saying that one must see a physical manifestation of Jesus in order to be known by Him and meet the 'requirements for salvation' according to scripture, I massively disagree. But, if he is saying that one must have a true relationship with Jesus by and through the Holy Spirit, I do agree with that. And we are told there will be evidence of that relationship. I believe his intention is to reach the pew-warmers who think that because they said a prayer they are 'good to go'. But the Bible says 'unless a person is born again of the Spirit, one cannot see the Kingdom of God." And that that person is known by the Fruit of the Spirit, as they walk by the Spirit and not by the flesh. What did Jesus say? COME TO ME TO KNOW ME. He gives us the always perfect answer. | |
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Delfi Elite
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| Subject: Re: Stewart Best Lightgate Borderlands 661 Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:04 pm | |
| - Quote :
- The man's theology has put me under bigtime condemnation and caused me grief too, so I understand.
I should have warned you a long time ago, My fail. I only looked at the links, I didn't read them so, I can't speak on it anymore than what I already have. But it seems that any fella that can put two women that love the Lord under such heavy condemnation is a bad fella. Let's pray for each other and maybe we get it behind us for good. | |
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