jigsaw, you ran into the same problem that i did with churches....i tried to educate them in the bible class that i taught....hey,they just ignored you....lol, they wanted me gone....i read your post 3 times and it kinda' reflects a bit of my thinking....i firmly suspect that the real Israel migrated over the caucasus mountains into what would be the area of the old USSR and on west into europe, and eventually into north america....there are two endtime babylons,literal and mystery....i have no doubt that america is literal babylon that gets destroyed....by the way, i absolutely love reading your posts.....we are so few in number now, please spend as much time on here as you can...i have been dealing with a house remodel( did just about all of the work myself and i have two rooms to go,non-essential unless the faggiefornia folks need a place to stay) and a very sick wife, who is on the mend,finally....its almost winter so i will spend more time on here....hopefully dove gets back soon and josephus and judy can spare some time....one great poster that i hope can get on more is sansanoy....he has great stuff when he posts....i have lost hope in anydamnthing happening to redirect the country.....i am about to walk away from the "Q" stuff....centuries of evil is just too much to overcome and the only one that fix it is still a few years away....one bright spot i see is the catholic heresy is about to be exposed for its always been....the catholics on TD want to see it burned down themselves