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Subject: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:57 pm
These are suggestions (along with some references) for you to look up. If you're comfortable with your research, start on these now.
I found this in the midst of a long article on how undisclosed factors influence test outcomes. This therapeutic action of D3 is very much what we're looking for. https://greenmedinfo.com/blog/vitamins-against-viruses
Vitamin D supplementation has been the subject of several placebo-controlled trials documenting anti-inflammatory, antiviral, and anticancer effects. Correction of vitamin D deficiency has significant anti-inflammatory [24] and immunomodulatory [25] benefits. Vitamin D and its direct metabolites promote production of antimicrobial peptides which have antibacterial and antiviral properties, while also reducing viral replication by inhibiting the NF-kappaB pathway. Consistent with these immunomodulatory and antiviral mechanisms, data from several placebo-controlled trials shows that vitamin D provides benefit in a variety of infectious conditions including human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) [26], hepatitis C virus [27-29] and upper respiratory infections [30-31]. Vitamin D administration displays impressive clinical effectiveness against dermal HPV as shown in case reports, clinical series, and placebo-controlled trials, with remarkable safety, high efficacy, and a consistent trend toward complete resolution of lesions [32-36].
Further down it is stated:
magnesium supplementation improves vitamin D status and is necessary for vitamin D activation, binding, transport, metabolism, and gene expression ...
Dosage: 2000IU D3 along with supportive supplements doesn't upset anybody I've read over the years. 5000IU are often taken for periods of time, particularly if other health complications already exist. ---- Supposedly we make our own vita D from sunlight. How's that working out for ya. I have family in Fl who tested deficient in vita D.
AS far as magnesium,
Magnesium Malate - supports ATP production and cellular energy
Magnesium L-Threonate - promotes mental sharpness and cognitive health (It's expensive)
Magnesium Aspartate - promotes cellular energy
Magnesium Taurate - heart health support, promotes calmness
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:25 pm
The D3 supplement should have K2 in addition. (and there may be a newer and improved version as well).
Vitamin C Ascorbic acid. NOT sodium or calcium ascorbate.
Another article here recommending vita C and D3: https://www.naturalhealth365.com/what-is-coronavirus-3275.html
As he acknowledges, the RDA's are not sufficient. Vita C at 2 grams daily should be comfortable (not causing loose stools). It is suggested up to 5 grams daily if you are already sick.
I think I would spread it out over waking hours. It's water soluable so it's going to get flushed through the system. We want to maintain as much in circulation as possible. IV is not an easy option to find. I checked out transdermal patches but am not finding efficacy test results anywhere.
IF you are on any meds, or have an existing medical condition, do searches for ___x__vitamin and disease name. Or contraindications for x vitamin and name of condition/disease.
If there are no other issues, this can be started now at 1000mg and up at your own discretion. If you develop loose stools, back off the dosage. It is not necessary to stop the supplement entirely.
Other things I want to look at are zinc, selenium, electrolytes. (don't wait on me). Oh, and ASTRAGALUS. It is an immune booster and especially good for the lungs.
The Mag threonate is expensive because it's 'proven' to cross the blood/brain barrier. But they haven't really bothered to prove that the others don't ! No need to spend the extra money. I left out Mag oxide as it's a laxative. (just up the C)
AND STAY HYDRATED AND WELL RESTED !
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:18 pm
Today I find the one I've been waiting for. (Better late than never ! haha) I've been looking for it, I swear. But, it's all good~What I posted. And now, here's Sayer Ji's
This abstract justifies astragalus as an immune booster against viral infection, and as a general anti-inflammatory. I particularly like it. It feels to be gentle, yet very effective.
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:48 pm
Good work !!
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:28 am
somewhere on this forum I posted the vitamin C and D3 info and also Colloidal Silver in killing viruses.
Large amounts of vitamin C are given intravenous @ hospital to treat Flu.
The recommendation for C orally was that if you took too much it will cause stool to be too soft, So watch out and reduce amount to remedy.
I personally (if family member is sick or I feel like I am getting symptoms) take 5000 C (3 in am & 2 later in day) and 3-5000 of D3 and Colloidal Silver for cold / flu symptoms. No shots!! No sickness.
If you feel symptom of cold (too much sneezing sore throat) take 3 eye drops of Colloidal Silver 1000 part per million strength Once per day for up to 7 days before eating and you will not get sick! If you go ... I'll take in the morning ... well you may be sick and then it will work but take longer by at least 1-2 days to kill it!
The old quote of "I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth", there was a reason for it..your tongue and saliva will in effect get you the same silver, but I don't know how long you will need to run around with it in ur mouth in public.
Use less silver on children 1-2 drops same time. But you might want to do research for them!
For the coming Virus, you might want to get a bottle NOW and take one days worth soon, once or twice a week because it won't be long and all the viruses will be running around!
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:33 am
A new update from the original source (1st post). The only addition to our info is the recommended dosage of zinc @ 20 mg.
And this source could well be an echo of greenmedinfo. But all is consistent with Spring's and my past research.
REMEMBER to factor in quantities from any multi vita. you may take.
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:34 pm
Dr. Andrew Saul 2/19/20 short (11 min.)video by retired phd in regular contact with chief hospital doctor in China and the dramatic results of using highly antiviral vitamin c. Costs pennies per dose. Completely safe and non toxic. 100 or so year history of documented safe and effective use to prevent and/or cure many viral and other diseases. Even small doses significantly strengthen one's immune system to increase the chance of staying well if exposed.
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:41 am
How to help yourself stay healthy.
You are NOT obliged to be a 'realist' if that causes you to accept the enemy's threats over God's Truths.
As a Christian, do we call ourselves Believers? And what does that mean except that we Believe the Word of God over the ways, works, tricks, appearance and voice of the enemy?
You are not your thoughts. You can change your thoughts anytime you want, and you do ALL the time. So that's not a novel concept.
Your brain isn't separate from the body, or from the function and operation of the body. Watch a horror movie. Your heart rate speeds up, the adrenals pump out cortisol, you actually jump when the monster leaps out. Are you on your couch under any threat? Yet, your brain causes your body to respond as if you were.
The same thing is happening as we observe the 'ways of the world'. When Q says, 'enjoy the show', that's not just in politics.
I read a story once of a group of trapped miners. The one wearing the watch called out the time as they waited for rescue. But he called out the hour only after 2 hours had actually passed. In the end all the men survived, except the man wearing the watch. All of them responded to what they perceived as truth.
So what information tools can you use in your favor?
There's the placebo effect. In double blind studies, half the group gets the med, the other half gets the 'sugar' pill. Of those, 25-40% on the placebo report feeling better, symptoms resolving. That's a big number actually, considering they had reason to DOUBT, tof question what they were taking.
Doctors also use placebos. In those cases, the recovery rate is around 60%. Same sugar pill, but with the weight of and trust towards the doctor behind it. And that's not counting the number who would NOT have improved even had they been given the real drug. So the 60% is actually a lower number than the total facts would yield.
What else? You have the vitamins, which have been proved in scientific studies. They, along with food and herbs, and healthful activities are legitimate health agents.
You have your faith in the Word; your strength in the Lord. Get the Word down on paper and put it where you'll see it OFTEN to overcome the perverted conditioning we all live under. Speak it out and repeat it. You know God hears when His Word is spoken and responds to that Word offered up in Faith.
The lesson in Job, I'll put in "First things First".
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:51 pm
So, I found one of those viruses, or it found me. And I've been very down and very out since last Tues. at exactly 10:30 am, when the ton of bricks arrived. So I was stunned really to see I'd posted some in between, and need to check them probably for the 'lucidity factor'.
So it wasn't too hard to figure out I'd broken a cardinal rule with this thread, which I'll explain later. For now, everyone just keep singing in unison:
It's the End of The World As We Know It, and I am FINE !!
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:04 pm
I came to look up the magnesium distinctions and saw I meant to say something.
We're all old enough to know that sometimes no matter what you do, and through no fault of your own, sh*t happens. But something that we don't have to do is make unnecessary connections-dependencies.
What I mean is, don't arbitrarily make anything contingent on any other thing. As we're on vitamins here, we can use that as example.
The most unattached way to take a supplement or any med, or any food or any activity, is you do it because you choose to, period. Don't put a 'because' to it, as the minute you do you've made the end result "conditional' when it doesn't need to be.
Example: if my belief is that I stay healthy because I take vitamins, then what happens if I don't take them, or I run out? I've told my subconscious a lie: that my health is dependent on my doing something specific. And if I don't do it, I've set myself up for an unwanted result.
This is true for all types of life applications. And it's a self-inflicted complication that doesn't need to be, and an extra noise in our heads we can let go of. Be well because that's how God made you. Simple is good, and freeing.
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:46 am
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. 3John 1:2
An Elect One let me know yesterday of a negative experience he had with vitamin D, where after a period of time it caused an elevation of calcium in his bloodstream and caused his symptoms (PAIN) of TN to worsen significantly. The D sets up a condition called hypervitaminosis D, whereby calcium is pulled from the bones, teeth, etc. into the blood. Some prescription medications used to treat high blood pressure (thiazide diuretics) and heart diseases (digoxin) can cause an increase in vitamin D in the blood. Estrogen therapy, taking antacids for a long time, and isoniazide, an antituberculosis medication, can also cause elevated levels of vitamin D. Vita D (and calcium) levels can be determined with blood test. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318415 The RDA is 600 iu's daily. WE were looking at 2000iu's to increase immunity, up to 5000iu's to help mount a defense against an existing infection. This article from the Mayo Clinic is talking about dosage of 60,000 iu's daily for several months indeed producing toxicity https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/vitamin-d-toxicity/faq-20058108 60,000 iu's is an absurd amount, but there it is pub'd by the Mayo Clinic. A misprint? We can do more reading soon.
But everybody's body chemistry is different. And vitamins aren't 'nothing'. They do have effects, positive and negative. He and I want us all well. We can bring current information for you to consider. But you know it isn't gospel.
There's nothing I take EVERY day, but that's just the way I am. In some things that would be considered a character defect. LOL. My thoughts would be 'increased for a specific reason for a period of time" EO, add anything you'd like, of course.
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Xferred from "Q Related April" so you don't by chance miss it. These new directions for cures was discussed at Presser of 4-23-2020.
E made note of them and added some facts:
@FollowThe17 Apr 17
Concentrated antibodies, our response to Deep State vaccines. Will not need to be matched to blood type. ----------------------------------------------- So you understand at a basic level. - Being able to eventually treat people with blood plasma that contains antibodies for #Covid19, will be a game changer. Being able to provide people with antibodies that fight off the virus will likely save millions of lives. ---------------------------------- Sunlight kills the Covid19 virus. Watch POTUS right now. Amazing truths.
(me: confirmed on solid surfaces in direct sunlight so far) ---------------------------- POTUS discussing shining a form of ultraviolet light inside the body to kill the virus. Brilliant and effective. God Bless ---------------------------------- Full spectrum light therapy, in which an extremely powerful light that mimics direct sunlight is actually shined through the body; is about to become mainstream. Good.
------------------------------------- Tanning beds do not mimic natural sunlight and are not effective light therapies. They bombard you with UVA rays only, and do not help you produce vitamin D, or anything else. They will, however, give you skin cancer. Correcting this early with foresight.
---------------------------------------------- Someone asked if Vitamin D supplements might help. Yes. They might. However without proper amounts of Sunlight, the body processes vitamin D very poorly. So taking a supplement is only effective in combination with adequate sunlight.
-------------------------------- The concept of full-spectrum UV light therapy is not new. It is actually a well founded and tested science. PS. this is not the same light as a household full spectrum lightbulb. -------------------------------------------- Sunlight that passes through a window or glass pane actually loses a lot of its proverbial punch. The best thing is direct, unfiltered sunlight.
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:20 am
INTO THE LIGHT:
https://vitalitymagazine.com/article/the-vital-light-of-nikola-tesla-healing-power-of-ultraviolet-light/ The Vital Light of Nikola Tesla: Healing Power of Ultraviolet Rays
(we are in no position to mess with ozone personally and maybe not professionally,. IMO ) ---------------------------------- [link to ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”? Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”? Ultraviolet blood irradiation (UBI) was extensively used in the 1940s and 1950s to treat many diseases including septicemia, pneumonia, tuberculosis, arthritis, asthma and even poliomyelitis. The... ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] ---------------------------------------
Healing with light, sound, frequency, energy, vibration. It will be so exciting to see all this go mainstream.
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Mon May 18, 2020 4:30 pm
This is weird and wild. I stopped reading Mike a long time ago as I'm not enamoured with his political assessments, but here he is with an article today publishing the dreaded MMS=chlorine dioxide=industrial bleach as a rapid cure for covid. (IV administration).
The other aspects of the article cover what we generally accept to be a legitimate treatment assessment. And more support that this is not a 'lung' disease per se, but a blood coagulation problem and therefore ventilators are of no benefit.
But this is strictly for informational purposes. No suggestion on my part. There's also an interview with Dr. Judy Mikovits, who many are listening to. I haven't vetted her either.
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Fri May 22, 2020 11:39 am
In a new report published Friday by the medical journal the Lancet, researchers compiled medical records from 96,032 COVID-19 patients from 671 hospitals across six continents. About 15,000 patients were given hydroxychloroquine, which Trump has said he is taking as a prophylactic measure, or its relative chloroquine, and the study found that the drug was ineffective at treating patients with the coronavirus. Instead, researchers found that patients on hydroxychloroquine had a 34% increased risk of dying and a 137% increased risk of life-threatening heart arrhythmia. For those taking hydroxychloroquine in combination with an antibiotic, chloroquine alone, or chloroquine with an antibiotic, the risks were even higher. (not good news)
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Fri May 22, 2020 12:09 pm
World Health Organization (WHO) @WHO 1h
"As the world comes together to develop a safe and effective vaccine for #COVID19, we must not forget the dozens of lifesaving vaccines that already exist and must continue to reach children everywhere"- @DrTedros
(I'm down here, swearing)
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:58 pm
From E. This article is worth reading and spreading far and wide: - "Endogenous Deficiency of Glutathione as the Most Likely Cause of Serious Manifestations and Death in COVID-19 Patients"
Glutathione is produced by your body. It is primarily made up of three amino acids: glutamine, glycine and cysteine. In patients with Covid, we have seen rapid depletion of Glutathione in their bodies as well as extremely low vitamin C levels. ---------------------------------- A large percentage of people have what is called an MTHFR mutation. - This mutation can severely inhibit the body's ability to breakdown amino acid homocysteine. In this sense, taking amino acids can be ineffective. Taking a supplementary form of the actual GSH is best.
--------------------------------- Intravenous injections work much better at raising GSH levels, but supplements can be extremely useful in keeping the body's levels where they need to be.
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Subject: Re: Viruses, Vitamins, New Therapies Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:03 pm
Here's a link for glutathione at Swanson vitamins if you want to read the reviews. They're very good. https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-premium-l-glutathione-100-mg-200-caps?otherSize=SW853#item-detail__reviews-parent
HOWEVER, the manufacturing plants are listed as being in the Japan, U.S., and CHINA. So no-go there.
VITACOST shows no origin location. This could take some digging. It is often taken with R-ALA (alpha lipoic acid) and wolf berry, ie goji berry. Goji berry juice is usually quite expensive, but Swanson has dried in caps at a great price and even the juice is well priced.
ARTICLE ON BENEFITS: https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/chinese-wolfberry-benefits-doses-8671.html
To get a non-China source, we might have to check out the 3 component parts that must be a precursor to glutathione and make our own.
More looking into it required.(not tonite for me)
Info in abstract in above post and at https://twitter.com/ETheFriend/status/1282425089934282752
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