Thanks spring. That gentleman writes some pretty good articles. No need for gloom and doom though. As a Believer we have Jesus Christ on our side and regardless of what's allowed to happen, "they" don't. After the initial nastiness takes place and everyone realizes what has happened, and they will, there are 20 - 25 million Veterans who won't take kindly to being sold out by a Kenyan. Ivan will not be treated with much hospitality.