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PostSubject: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 08, 2023 12:29 pm

You all are more prepared than most on the planet, so why should I say anything?
I was told to.      

I'm sad that you all don't understand why I say what I say, do what I do. 
Sad to the point that I wasn't going to go any further with this...until about
an hour ago, when I was told this is part of my 'test', if you will.

And maybe you know that what we record here goes further than these
walls. 

I've spent so much time documenting the 'affairs of the world' because
the changes are so profound, and, well...again, because I was told to.  
NOT because I like it!  What we've uncovered is evil and hellish. It breaks my
heart, makes me angry, and more.  But now is our time to shine. 
To break the chains, to put an end to the endless.  God is with us!
And we each have an opportunity to input on how we see the Kingdom
on earth...under God.  
In my spirit I feel the struggle like a butterfly breaking free from it's cocoon.
Let me out!  Let me be free! The physical body is too constraining!  And boorish.
Yet...the others.   Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f62d 
Still we know, we entrust them to God, and like Lot's wife, Like the band
following Moses, no turning back. Eyes on Jesus and Him Alone.

If you haven't died before, this can bolster your confidence, I hope.
And more than that.  I hope it gives you the confidence to speak it to
someone else who hasn't spent years immersed in what we have, and may
be very fearful and confused in the coming days. 

I was awakened between 1 and 2 this morning to get the 11:11 message I
put in latest intel.  I posted it then, but it didn't go through. So I posted it
again this morning.

I'll be back in a while to get into the transition between Life and Life, as far
as I've seen it.


           
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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 08, 2023 5:36 pm

I don't want to complicate this.  I've written parts of it many times.

Dying is nothing more than leaving the physical world behind and moving on to a new place. 
You don't die. You don't cease to exist. * You are not your earthly body.

You just separate from the world and from the physical body. But you'll still have a body.

You will keep your awareness with you.  You will still think, see, hear, smell, feel, observe.
Often times people are escorted by angels.  Often times people are met by Jesus.

You will move by your intention. You will communicate through thought rather than the spoken word. 
You won't be alone.  We're not alone now, but not everyone is exactly aware of that.

You have the key~the Name of Jesus.

Always move toward the Light. 

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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 08, 2023 6:33 pm

I love this.  I checked TS for a minute and see one that I follow has joined the conversation.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a  Talking  About  DYING  Here 263a 

As I think, as I entertain thoughts of Heaven in my mind, my thoughts (my attention and intention)
ripple out in the consciousness we all share.  In this way we create a song of praise, and I believe we lift the consciousness of the world just even a tiny bit each time we turn our thoughts to the Goodness of God.
I hope that's not too sweet a thought to receive, as such is the Nature of Heaven. 
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"But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him."

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8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 09, 2023 9:46 am

I wrote more last night that I'll check in a minute and see if any is worth posting.
I spent time in the world which can taint our vision for sure.


One I heard was SGAnon's new file. He's always positive and encouraging at the end.
He sees progress and ultimate victory in all these things.  In fact his demeanor as he speaks is such that I have an impossible  time remembering  the details of hard times, of war. 
Sort of like Kim Clement.  'Oh yes, there will be war', and then he'd go right on Praising God.
I didn't appreciate that at all at the time.  Now I see it as the smartest and most truthful response there is. 
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I need to tell you what happened just a bit ago.  I was coming from the kitchen with my coffee to get online and the tv was on Daystar.  As I stepped into the room I heard the minister say, 
'God said, you need to teach the people about dying.  You tell them how to live in the world but not how to die."
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I maybe don't think we're supposed to swear, but I swear that is exactly what happened.
Nothing more, nothing less.  Just exactly that.
Then he talked of the Glory of Heaven.  That was it. 
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I think we can find a different lesson in each Disciple.
I do think John the Revelator is John the Apostle.
it's kind of cute that sometimes he didn't know where he was.
Was he in or out of the body?  On the earth or in the heavenlies?
These men were 'possessed by the Spirit of God'.

One of the interesting things about John was that he never referred
to himself by his earthly name. That was not where he found his identity.
Instead, he called himself 'the one that Jesus loved'.  
It almost sounds boastful, and he is declaring it, but I think he was very humble about it. Not prideful. He's speaking Truth, his and ours.
If God says it, that settles it. Period.

God loves us unconditionally and wants us to come BOLDLY before the
Throne, whether here or there.
If we don't know that, without any doubt, we will not trust giving our 'selves', our life, over to Him. Yet it isn't until we hand everything over to Him that we step into the Blessings.


And where is the Kingdom of God? Maybe past Neptune?
And by the way, isn't God amazing that He made the splendor
of the universes just because He could?  Then He says, Come.
See what I have made.  Do you like it?  Pretty cool, huh.
And the stars?  See how I decorated the night for you, for Me,
for us. 
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All that is the Creation.  The Creator is your very being, and
is within you.  And you can go there.  Seek Him where He can
be found.  Put down the world and all it's cares and distractions,
come within and Find the Peace that passes all understanding. 
It is the Inner Walk that matters.  The 'outer walk' in the world
is but a reflection of the Spirit within.


Heaven is the unrestricted reflection of God Himself. 

This separation between us and God was never meant to be. The New
Covenant of Forgiveness of sin, and restoration to the New Creature in Christ, through Fellowship, puts an end to the curse.

God is the Source of ALL life, of our life, and the 'good ground' from which springs forth our life experience.
The quality, richness, beauty of life comes from Within you, at the
Source of your being, which is God, the Creator and giver of all 
Good things..  
What could we do, and what could we do better than to be surrendered to God.  
Don't hold back.  You lose nothing and gain EVERYTHING through giving up this 'imaginary sense of control' we think we're supposed to maintain.
That's satan, and he is the tempter, deceiver and the father of lies. 

When we actually allow God to rule our lives, when we actually drop the notion that we can do any good thing on our own, or that we could conform ourselves to God's standards in any situation, and we give it all over to God-
the good, the bad, the ugly, the triumphs and failures, the idea of how things should be, and we STOP holding up the fallen world, then we 'rest' as He works. 
All we've done is ALLOW HIM His Rightful place. 

Whether on this side of heaven or that side of heaven...I mean think how you will 'behave' when you get there.   
Now do that 'here'.   Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a 
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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 03, 2024 5:59 pm

I read the last post, and there is a second step there, called Unity.
Within the 'I in Him and Him in me', is the engagement period of the betrothal,
of the wedding. 
Because of the new heart and new mind of Christ, we naturally make right decisions,
take right actions.  (Provided we maintain the state of Peace). 
Though we can and should always ask anytime just to be sure.
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A friend of mine was doing a 'live' a few days ago, and when speaking of the 'inner
Jesus', he said,  'wrapped in a Holy melody'.  A spontaneous and stunning utterance.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a 

This reminded me of it, and it is an example of how we encounter in life that which we carry within us. 




           
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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 04, 2024 2:51 pm

Think of the 'I AM'.  The part of you that never changes, regardless of age or circumstance. 
The "I AM' never dies.  You will always be you, no matter the world you are in, or the circumstances
in which you exist.   

The 'I AM' is the animating Divine Life within us; it is God that gives life to all things. 
And His greatest desire is that we seek Him out and come to Know Him as Father, Creator, 
Source of all that is Good, Beautiful, Righteous, Orderly, the Source of all that is of Love and LOVING.

AND that we would come out of the world and into His Presence and Let Him redeem and restore US as a 'fit vessel' for His Spirit, who will establish His Kingdom on the earth.  Now He has an Order to How He will accomplish His Will over the earth.
FIRST 'BE'.  THEN 'DO'.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a   BE = Enter into His Presence, within you. DO =as He directs.
"UNLESS GOD DOES THE THING, WE LABOR IN VAIN'.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f440   Psalm 127.1
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Too often, it isn't until we come to the end of ourselves, when we know we have no answer, 
that the ways of the world have no acceptable answer, that we are brought to look within.  
As Q has said, It isn't until the precipise that men find the will to change.
But where is that Power of change?  With God.


           
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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2024 2:35 pm

I see I wrote a little more than I thought I had.  But not enough. I know because when you
walk the Inner Path to the Kingdom which IS Within you, and see for yourself that this FLIP
is Truth, you won't be quiet about it!  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a 
The scales fall from the eyes , the chains fall away, your Spirit soars, and everything changes. 
The experience of 'Whom the Son sets Free is Free Indeed" is an Amazing and Joyful Revelation,
and the Heavens celebrate.  Your angels are eager for you to know them! 
AND GOD, AND JESUS, with us by the Spirit, sent to us just as it is Written...can you even imagine?
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There is NOTHING here about any person being 'all that'.  Or in any way being 'deserving'.
MANY are called; few are those who seek out the Living Christ and Eternal God and His Kingdom.
Yet He has ALREADY Prepared it all for us.  It is ALL there, waiting on us. 
Jesus is the Way Maker.  He is the Door through which we enter.  He is the GATE by which we
go in and out and find green pasture. 

We need not be like the ones who stand outside the Temple, looking for answers,
looking for Truth.
No. We only need to walk through the DOOR. FOLLOW Jesus.  He Lives! And He will walk you there. 
AND Do Not Forget all His Benefits.  We need them!  Every one of them. 
You cannot give what you do not have.  His Blessings NEED to flow through us.
Part of us Revealing the Kingdom is in meeting the needs of others!
But we also cannot stand in the River and not get wet ourselves. 
So take no thought of what you need to satisfy the issues of Life, as God knows and provides.
He takes care of these concerns of daily life because they vie for our attention,
and He wants our attention!  But always ask before doing anything rash.

We cannot change God's Nature.  His Nature is to GIVE,  beyond all we can ask or think.
The only thing we can do is reject His Blessings, His gifts.  And why would anyone ever do that?
AND, what do WE do in the Kingdom?  
WHATEVER the King says 'DO' !  Right? 
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But His Kingdom is (presently) not of this world.
Next post I will speak of the Way to the Kingdom Within.


           
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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2024 7:19 pm

We were born into the world, by God's intention, we believe.  But what kind of world?  Strange, Rude, Gross, Dishonest.  Full of short comings and disappointments, and undeserved pain.   Seeing more, it's murderous, and evil. And not only evil, but evil by design. In fact, evil prospers.
Yet this is the playing field, and we are conditioned in every way to conform to it to survive.

Should we blame the churches?  How many grew up in church thinking that if we are a good, loving, charitable person and accept Jesus as God's once and for all payment for the sins of mankind that we will reap our reward in heaven.  Okay. The Good Book says 'All who call on the Name of Jesus will be saved'. Thank God for them!
Truly! Some day Jesus will return and make everything right.
End of story?

What was Jesus revealing as He taught the Kingdom of Heaven,
that we must be 'born again' of the Spirit, and that He and God would be with us, COMMUNE (including communicate), sup with us, make His abode with us-in us.  
That the world would not see Him, but we would see Him.
 
Study the profound changes that happened to the Disciples at
Pentecost, when the Spirit fell on them, including His instructions
to them while they 'waited'.
Read again what Jesus did to Paul. Paul was blinded by the Light,
carried away to a bed in a room while the Spirit taught Him the
Gospel, and the reason for his being. His sight was not restored
until he was fully 'baked', until his 'vision' was made new in every
sense of the word. When he learned, we don't walk by what we
'see' in the world, but by the Word and the Spirit and the Power of
His Might.  

THIS is what He came for, died for and rose again. To give us this
access to God's Kingdom, to be imbued with the Power of the Holy Ghost. He did not abandon us!
"As He is, so are we in this world"  THIS world. 
And this world, and the conditioning to it that exists in us, must be laid down, so that the Spirit can dwell within.  They don't mix! 
The Good News is that God does the work, He cleanses the Temple, wherever there is a seeking soul who desires His Presence, is willing to Follow Him.
He will show you 'Great and Mighty things you know not of',
He will guide you into All Righteousness, (right thinking, seeing,
acting).  He will give you a new heart and new mind.  He will heal
you, your pains, and afflictions.  Memories fade in His Light.
He will carry your burdens, and set you free. 
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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2024 6:29 am

I know I don't want to do anything in life that isn't God's Will in the matter.
It is the only way to have the right outcome, to end the struggles, to live with assurance
that I've done the most important thing in this life that I could do. 
A thousand + wrong things, and ONE right thing that grants me Mercy.
A once rebellious spirit that gladly welcomes and is grateful and eager to surrender to Kingship.
A measure of faith that removes the burdens, and silences the voice of the accuser.

To know that He never leaves us.  It's only me whose gaze has wandered. 
That my most important job is to tend to the Garden, to listen to Him and learn. 
To Let Go of how I think things are, and let God be God. 
I do not accept 'life on life's terms' and will not till the kingdoms of this world are the Kingdoms
of our God. 
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We know there is no death. There is only the soul's departure from this physical, temporary realm. 
So really all we're talking about is more familiarity with your eternal spirit, which is in you and with
God right now. 
Who are we?  We are the CALLED OUT ones.  Called out from the world, called to the Kingdom...
to be conformed and transformed by the Holy Spirit. To be made Acceptable by the Presence of
Christ in us, the sure Hope of Glory.
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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2024 2:56 pm

Sorry for being redundant, but it should only help with everything in establishing the New Life, the real and eternal Life in the Spirit with God through Christ.

So, the first thing to understand is just How Much needs to be left behind when you seek to enter in
to the Presence. The answer is 'everything' gets left behind. 
(It's just that when we read the Word to "Come out of her, my people' we maybe didn't attach
all the other lessons given about 'coming out', bringing nothing with us.) 

The world AND us, raised and conformed to it, are very opposite to the Kingdom, and we have so many Bible lessons that tell us to leave the old to find the New, and few are those who find it.  
Now, we can't fully stay 'there' in the Garden till God determines we're done here. We are to take the
Kingdom out into the world so God can affect the world, Save the Lost, Redeem the earth, bring the Kingdom 'on earth as it is in Heaven'.
He Loves ALL His Creation, people above all, and all who seek Him to Know Him personally, and Do His Will are Loved beyond Measure, 'Blessed and Highly Favored'.

We must 'go within' to the Source of our Being with Reverence! and Stillness-Silence. Ceasing from all our efforts.  That's a no brainer, isn't it?  
WE cannot make ourselves Holy.  What WE have that 'the world' does not is Forgiveness of sin,
AS IF we had never sinned.  Now we say, 'not my will but Thy Will be Done on earth as it is in
heaven.'
This is the gift of eternal Life that Jesus made the Way for when there was no Way, BEGINNING
the Day we received the Sacrifice and Resurrection and the Promise that He will be with us ALWAYS.
The Life is in the Spirit YIELDED to Him. 

Do we lose ourself in this process of surrendering our will to His? 
No. Not at all. We become MORE than we were: We become WHOLE.
'He who seeks to keep his life will lose it.  He who 'loses' his life for My Name's Sake will have
eternal Life.'

This does not mean when this life is over !
It means what I described above.  
Paul said, "I die daily so that He might live in me" 
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There is a Time for studying the Word, a Time for praying, and a Time for entering His Presence.
Imagine walking into the Throne Room of God in Heaven. His Presence permeates the whole atmosphere and all who stand there.

If we were in our right minds, I think this is how we would present ourselves in our set apart time each day.  To sit silently, surrendered for Him to do His Good Work in us.

The untrained, undisciplined mind does NOT want to give up control!
The enemy will throw up distraction after distraction.
Do not be deterred.  

We understand 'DOING'. It is the way of the fallen world.
We don't understand 'BEING'=the Source of ALL.  The Source of Life-our life.
To 'just BE', we have to stop DOING for a period of time.
BEING IS EFFORTLESS. 

I was just going to file this. It's not exactly flowing as it should.
And I heard the word ZOE life.  I've heard of it before, but don't know
anything of it.  So I looked.

https://beautifulinjesus.com/zoe-god-kind-life/
From the article:
Christ, who is life, brings us life eternal. So, zoe is not only about spending eternity with God in heaven. It includes the promise of heaven, but it is so much more! In Christ, we have zoe right now. Those who belong to the Son of God have the right to eternal life here on earth. Zoe starts here and continues for eternity.

The scripture references are wonderful, but they will not copy properly, so please go to the link.

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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeWed May 22, 2024 12:32 pm

Do know know that Living by the Spirit is the MOST REAL thing we can do?

I know the unbelief, the mocking, the denial that exists here. And it's tempting to sit
back down, say nothing.  But that's my idea, not God's. He's full of Fire to be heard, seen, Known.
And guess what?  It's not about me!!! 
Because we need Him far more than He needs us. If we won't come, He'll find others who believe in Him enough to DO what He says DO in each day.
What of God do we really think we know (Job), that we Judge Him?
"His thoughts are not our thoughts.  His Ways are not our Ways"

That big old word, 'discernment'.  Please!  In what mind is all this 'discerning' happening?
The mind of the flesh.  It controls through fear (doubt, disbelief).
Why did the Pharisees kill Jesus?  It was all about control.  
What did Jesus say?  What Father would, when his child asks for bread, give a stone?
How much MORE will your Heavenly Father give to you.
God said, 'Try Me and see!  If I am not faithful. If I am not who I say I AM.'

Are you looking at your sins?  At the Law?  They condemn. They are Fulfilled in Jesus.
He, in you, as Lord of your life, satisfies all the Law. 
We of ourselves do nothing, except surrender to Him in all our going out and
coming in. 
We stand with our Victory won and yet refuse to walk in it if we seek to keep
our life and don't let the Spirit work. 

Hebrews 4:10: “For he who has entered His rest has also ceased from his own works as God did from His.”


Tell me HOW can there be sin in your life if God's Spirit is Living THROUGH you?
The One who walks you in all Righteousness?
Easy.  We slipped.  We fell away.  We weren't surrendered.  We weren't listening.
Or worse! We got on our high horse and decided 'it's okay, I can handle it'.
That's 'whoa' and a 'woe'. 
Double mindedness does not work. it's not a contest of my will or Thy Will be done.

There is no scripture that says, "God bless my mess".
There is confession, repentance, asking for Forgiveness and to be
re established in Right Standing. Do pray for help with the mess,
as only He knows where that Redemption lies. 
Again!  NOT our own understanding.  

This world is not as solid as we've thought. Yes, God made it according to His Purpose. We even know about some of the patterns He used in Creating it.  We can see some of it, if we're not Ah-fraid to look and learn and be Rightfully and Righteously amazed. And the physical body is designed to be 'of it', to operate in it. 

But it still is 'of God' and subject to God, wherever He has access.
And I have yet to find ANY scripture that says any of this has 'passed',
has fallen away.  It is all True today as then for 'whomsoever will' find their
life in Him=in the Spirit. In fact Jesus said we would do ALL that we 'saw'
Him do, and MORE!  because He was going to the Father, and they would
send the Spirit to us!!

Time is up for the present ruler of this world, It is being dismantled, as Revelation describes.
The 'death', the passing away of all living things is happening at
a truly alarming rate.  FOLLOW Jesus 'up' out of the Valley of death, into
Life in the Spirit in/with Him, where the old things pass away and ALL things
are made New. 

And just to clarify, my suggesting the Throne Room was to help establish
a countenance of Reverence, of humbleness, and quiet, as it's so lacking in the world. I've not experienced that by any means!!!  I was NOT taken to heaven.
Instead, I was taught the inner walk to the Holy Spirit, and what we know as
the 'born again' life.  We are elevated as He lifts us, as the parable of the Prodigal.
When we come to the end of ourselves, we turn to Him in us.
Maybe we can get there before life drives us to our knees. 
Maybe we can Abide in the Spirit of Peace and Joy and Wonder at His
Faithfulness.

John 6:
Will ye also go away? 68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. 69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God. 


           
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I'm trying to write about potatoes  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f604 but that's clearly not going to happen till I do this first, if for no other reason than to give you some assurance I'm not off my rocker.

I was so raised in church that I played on the floor of my grandfather's study while he worked on his sermons. He pastored both Methodist and Congregational churches, had a radio broadcast in a large city in the North, and was once President of one the the council of churches well before they sold out. 
I believe he was of the hellfire and brimstone genre, though I don't remember his sermons. And his whole library, any notes and recordings are all gone a long time ago.  He and Gram did not have money.  They just served.

So, from Sat. night pot luck suppers with the congregation, to Sunday school, regular services weekly, Bible school in the summers, that was my Christian upbringing.

My father, the preacher's kid, an award winningly successful narcissist, was the counterpoint.
He didn't like me much.    Whatever satisfaction he got out of proving he was  smarter than a 9 year old, he was always right, and what business did I have breathing, anyway.Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f604  
But we (brother and I)were given opportunities. I think because it was part of the image he was holding himself to.  Eventually he got around to announcing he was god. I was long gone out of there by then.
But it was God's plan that I go back home after school. I just could not.  So, I took a spin of a year or two (or 10) in the wilderness.
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One particular Sunday in 1964, right before I turned 16, was
Communion Sunday. (Methodist church) As each row returned from
the alter the pastor said, (paraphrased) When you return to your seats, just sit quietly, not praying, not trying to think of anything.


And as I was trying to not think on what he said, or how to do that, a distinct Presence 'spoke' to me (on my right side, if that matters.)
Was the Voice inside me? Sure. Was it me or my imagination? NO!
He introduced Himself. 
I never thought to go to the minister.  I wish I had.  But
I was 'inspired' (led) to take steps I'd never thought of.   I went to the library and selected a book on Jesus.  I volunteered for the church nursery and at the local hospital.
I joined the choir and realized I cannot sing! And took lessons on the church organ, and no talent there either. 
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That was the first time I heard the instruction to 'just sit', 'Be still',
and in that we assume the correct 'posture' for receiving the Holy Spirit.
I wouldn't call that day the Infilling of the Spirit, though perhaps if I'd understood more it could have been.  
But it was the same instruction that was given to me again some 23 years later when I had to find the Way where there was no way,
The Power over life on earth and all it's circumstances, who says, "It will be as I say it is". 
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I went for a rest and got reminded about Noah, and his sons exposing his sins.
And I just did that.  Life experiences are part of who we are in our earth suit,
equipped with memories, feelings, emotions, often without the maturity to  
understand the bigger picture. 

It seems very true of life that people who are hurting, coming from unresolved wounds, do hurt others, often without any real awareness. 
And of course I am guilty all over the place, and in need of forgiveness. 
Daily?  The Lord's Prayer asks that we be Forgiven as we forgive others.  I'm sure I
qualify for 'daily forgiveness required'. 

Our offenses are another thing that we let go of as we sit.
I don't mean to downplay the 'Temple cleansing'.  I has to happen.
But as with everything, He will do it Himself.  We are a funny species that
we think we can qualify ourselves when He told us in 1000 ways that we can not.  
God working on us to work in and through us is THE Right Order.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f607 
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When they told Jesus His parents were looking for Him, He answered "Who is my Father.  Who is my Mother.'  At another point the Bible says, 'call no man your Father, except your Father in Heaven".


           
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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeTue May 28, 2024 8:56 am

1 Corinthians 13:
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, 
I thought as a child...
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I'm glad that 'telling' is over with! Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a Even the bad experiences serve purpose.
We all have a history, a story to tell. And that it fell short of the Goodness of God should not surprise us. 

The thorns (monsters) along each side of the path serve to direct
our walk to the Light of Christ.
And the Light dispels the darkness. 

In looking back, the most edifying is finding Jesus with you even if you didn't see at the time. It looks like all of us have been granted long life. Long enough that He Redeems the time. (and times)

My little story at 16 may not seem like much.  We all serve.
But the way I would have liked, through music, was closed off
to me. 
What was open was taking care of the children, especially in sickness, and affliction, as I saw in the hospital.  
But I still had a choice about it. Would I do what I volunteered to
do before I got here on the earth?  I didn't remember that at the
time, but I prayed that if that kind of suffering had to be, use me. 

I've mentioned the dialogue and the 'circuit' that exists between 
earth and Spirit before. The purposes of God come to the earth 
via the Spirit and the Word FOR US TO SPEAK on the earth, to
ALLOW on the earth, to send it back to Heaven in a prayer and
utterances, and then So It Is. 

And the enemy, the accuser,  went ballistic !!
And I didn't know how to fight back.  One day I gave in and agreed with the devil that I must have done something truly terrible by opening the Door for sickness and suffering. I mean really, who does that?  I figured my only hope was not to have children.

How does that work?  For one, I developed cysts on both ovaries
the size of grapefruits, the doc said when I finally had to have surgery. I tried hard to get him to tie my tubes, but he wouldn't.
He said most likely I would not be able to get pregnant anyway,
so much was now cut out.   Wrong. 
Coincidence?  Really? 

Eventually I'll at least get down how 'what's inside us' forms what we experience in the world.  The world becomes a mirror showing our inner selves to ourselves.  To change our actual experience is a
matter of being cleansed of the world and world experience,
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In case it's not obvious, choosing a major between religion and philosophy, I chose philosophy.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f604 
Matrix breaking wasn't part of the religious narrative of the time.  
I hadn't heard anything of Being 'born again' of the Spirit and the miraculous change of the Open Kingdom. But finding it was imperative. 

I'd never heard of Azusa Street or R.W. Schambach

"The Azusa Street Revival was a historic series of revival meetings that took place in Los Angeles, California. It was led by William J. Seymour, an African-American preacher."

I read that he would sit on the platform with a bag over his head till he was ready.
What would he be doing?  Shutting out the world and waiting on the Holy Spirit. 

"R.W. Schambach was an American televangelist, pastor, and Word of Faith minister. He was known for his powerful sermons and healing ministry. Schambach’s ministry focused on spreading the gospel of power and faith, and he traveled extensively throughout the world, preaching and performing miracles."

or Smith Wigglesworth
"Smith Wigglesworth was a renowned healing minister who believed in the power of faith and the Holy Spirit to bring healing to people. He was a British evangelist and Pentecostal minister who traveled extensively, preaching and healing the sick."
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WHEN did we lose our right understanding of 'Word of Faith'? 
Certainly we've been exposed to ministers who preach it, yet have fallen victim to greed and foolishness.  I would not want to be them.
And I am not like them.

Yet, I don't know...should I apologize that God does give you the desires of your heart?  That He meets the need, often before you get there yourself to even ask for it?  He is GOOD to us!!! But, we also give to others, meet the need,  from the Abundance we did not earn. 

But if we don't believe that God is a rewarder of those who diligently
seek Him, an ever present help in times of trouble, that He will indeed answer our prayers, I don't know what, other than sheer desperation, would prompt someone to leap into the 'Great Unknown'.

Obviously many want to find the better Way, and pursue all manner of wrong paths to change their reality from victim to happiness. 
To find an 'escape'.  

Often, even with the 'everyman' it's a desire for power, over feelings that accuse them day and night, over terrible burdens of seeming unmovable circumstance.

I heard a wonderful statement (paraphrased).  We fear the unknown
when it is the 'known' that we should fear. 
And don't we know the truth of that.

The heretofore 'unknown' we carry within us, that beckons us to seek and find Him is the Voice of our Father, who Loves us and treasures us beyond measure.

Yet people look at the world and say, 'what kind of God' would allow this?  Well, it isn't God allowing it.  It is man under the influence of the wrong spirit who courts evil.

I would think that the 'air' in 'the prince of the power of the air,'
means our consciousness, our thoughts, imaginings, interpretations,
as well as the 'atmosphere'.

Soon enough we will come to know what 'trickery' sustains this
present matrix, and we will be thunder struck. 
Talk about a 'wake up call'  !

God said, Come up HERE (to Me), and I will show you great and wonderful things you know not of. And I can't keep it to myself-
that's not what He wants. And it's not about me! Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a 
We all are called to 'testify'.   

And we all have a much greater role to play in all this than we might realize. 


           
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So, what is 'death' and rebirth?  It is simply that we have relinquished our 'imaginary' control in
favor of the Indwelling God/Jesus by the Holy Spirit.

While we are yet in the flesh, in the physical, it is a monumental ongoing struggle to conform ourselves to His Will.  And in fact, He clearly said, we cannot. 
He told us flat out it can only be accomplished by His Spirit residing in and speaking, acting through us.
And that is exactly how Jesus described Himself, and all He said and did.
He said, "I of Myself do nothing" !
He also said, 'Why do you call Me Good?  There is none Good but God.
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I did not know ANY of this, by the way. I got 'taught' by walking through it all.  And by searching
the Scriptures to be SURE.
I can say, be grateful for TIME.  We need it. It's a necessary part of the 'construct'.
Yet it too is subject to God. 
The more you go through, the more you witness what is and is not 'real'.
As God is 'Timeless, Spaceless (non-localized, everywhere at once), but able to appear in Time, and Space, it does seem that would be true in heaven as well. 
I guess I know the Holy Spirit as a 'person', and God as a Being.
It must be Jesus in the Holy Spirit, who first showed us the localized Presence
of God through His Spirit-the bridge, the connection between earth and heaven.
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So, we still need words to communicate, even though describing the Unseen
is not easy.  We have to use alot of: 'it's as if's..and reference something
familiar as an example.  Jesus spoke in parables that would be relatable
to the many future generations. 

In our generation we have talk of the 'astral plane', taken to be other realms
of the 'ethers'. (of consciousness within/without). 
I don't mess there, and always advise against it. 
As if we didn't have enough distraction here on earth, the last thing we need
is 'other constructs' that are not the realm of the Kingdom of God. 
There is One destination that matters, and only One. 
Now, if God equips you to enter into the battle of the spirits, then KNOW that
it is He Himself who does battle. His is the Power, always.
I do believe that our battlefield is the earth.  Let angels battle the dark angels.
We do not have our new bodies, and the flesh is vulnerable.

Remember when the demonic spirit said, Jesus I know and Paul I know, but who are you??!  And he proceeded to beat the guy up.

The Power and Authority given to us is SPEAKING the Word on the earth over all that
is not yet conformed to His Will.  And that includes any Word spoken by God
and sent to us through the Spirit. And Letting God work!
And yes, people get all over the place with that, unfortunately.

But 'testing the spirits' isn't hard.  A good one fills your heart with Love,
a bad one will make you instantly nauseous.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f604 

When God said, 'seek Me with ALL your heart and ALL your mind, and you will
find Me.  He could have said, "And I will find you. I see you and I'll come to meet you"   Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a 
We tend to think we're doing something.  But No, not really.
We are being guided and led and shepherded by Him to this very thing.
To take the inward journey of the Spirit, where He can be found. 
Trust God!  Trust the Word!  Don't think.  Seriously!  DON'T THINK.
Your thoughts are noise and interference and aren't necessary.  
Just be Obedient, Trust God-let it all go (they don't mix-that's double mindedness)
Rise Up and become the New Creature in Christ. 
There is a Designated Time for everything under the sun... Son!

Innocence isn't stupidity, but God isn't an intellectual endeavor either.  
Innocence is right believing, and Trust.  Don't make it hard.
God has made this incredibly easy truthfully-
You do nothing but Desire Him above all, seek His Presence, show up daily,  
then He does it all.  
Jesus as a brother is in His faithfulness, not my equality. He is Lord, King,
Master of my soul. All God asks of us is that we recognize that, and follow-
do what He said do.  And don't let forgetfulness overtake you.     
He makes ALL things NEW.  A New you, a New world to live in while yet
on the earth. Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f64fTalking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a


           
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I was watching videos and came across this ministry again, and listened to a few.
He's using  words and concepts I use here. 
It's  www.ridinghighministries. org
He may present it more clearly than I.
So is this happenstance? Coincidence?  There are no coincidences. Wink
Einstein's 'spooky action at a distance'? Wink 
Maybe it's the true nature of Reality. Wink

One reason why people don't see/experience the Presence of the Kingdom is Time.
We pray.  We're looking to God for something but it doesn't seem to happen.
AND THEN!  We doubt. And often blame ourselves.  
Jesus said, 'Let Him who doubts expect to receive nothing'.

(James 1 :  6But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. 8A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Jesus could do no great works there because of their
unbelief.
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If there was 'the Greatest Gift' (after Salvation) in coming
to the Kingdom, it may be the Confirmation that YES! It is
ALL True. And you know what God knows about Himself:
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This man is terrific, I think.


           
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PostSubject: Re: Talking About DYING Here   Talking  About  DYING  Here I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 15, 2024 8:38 am

I'd like to give you a bit of a practical, encapsulated experience of the Eternal Now.
It may serve you well in the times we're in.
Despite the chaos of the world, we can know and embody Peace regardless of what's
happening around us. 

Jesus said, Peace I give to you.  Not as the world gives, (but) My Peace I give to you.
Come to Me all who are burdened, heavy laden, and I will give you Rest.
Cast your cares on Me.

These aren't just nice words.  These are instructions from Lord Jesus.

Again, we need to sit, settle ourselves, make ourselves comfortable. 
Stretch, roll out that tension in your neck and shoulders, clear your throat,
take a deep breath or two, calm your breathing, and RELAX.  

If there is something so pressing on your mind that you can't relax, either
jot it down for when you stand up again, or get up and do it so that you
aren't burdened by it.

Go into a place where you won't be interrupted, take the phone off the hook, get water first if your thirsty, sit comfortably...and just let it all go, and relax for five minutes.
Every concern you have surely can wait 5 minutes.
And enjoy taking this break.  Don't try to do anything, or get someplace. Save that for
another time.  
God will hold Creation in place while you rest.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 263a 
Thank you, Lord.

Peace is a state of Being. It is of the Spirit.  It is Unconditional.  It does not need any
outside impartation from the world. It already resides within you. 
And instead of thinking/saying, 'oh but this thing or that thing...who can have Peace?
Jesus says, I AM with you Always.  I AM the Answer to your every need. Why do you worry?

Notice the Refreshing you feel.
RESTING in Him and experiencing His Peace are coupled. 
If we value His Peace enough to make room for it, He WILL pour out MORE.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f60a   
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I left off the big part. When we stop participating in the 'doings' of living,
we find our ground state, our Source, our Inheritance that resides at our
core-behind all the noise and distractions that aim to rob us. 

When we live FROM that Source, grounded in Peace, we BECOME Peace and
do our part in changing the world.
IT IS THE INNER WORLD THAT SHAPES THE REALITY WE EXPERIENCE.
Now, to teach the world.  Talking  About  DYING  Here 1f604


           
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