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laibcoms
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| Subject: It is him, the last before the tribulation Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:14 pm | |
| As I've said, there will be a new Pope on the 5th vote. What I've expected were: (1) an Italian - his mother is an Italian immigrant; (2) must have a German education; (3) of Pope John Paul II type - it's what the RCC need; and of course a proven track record of not succumbing to the "left" but is publicly against it both in words and actions.
What I didn't expect were (1) he would choose Francis of the Assisi; (2) a Jesuit Priest; (3) from Latin America - "the South" as they call it in the RCC.
This is going to be interesting. He will no doubt continue Benedict XVI's programs and at the same time do what John Paul II did. 2 Popes in 1.
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laibcoms
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:29 pm | |
| The above was what I posted in my social networks. Now for what I really want to say.
It is him, the last before the tribulation.
From his profile alone and the name he had chosen, it is slapping us in the face. There never was a Jesuit "White Pope", they always work in the shadows, some vatican defectors even said that their org elects theor own pope, the "Black Pope", the one who actually runs vatican and the RCC.
With the RCC rocked by scandals, as the world says, "don't send kids/women/inexperienced to do a man's job" and "to make things happen, you got to have to do it yourself". That's what they did. Time to solidify both popes. Make it one and the same. RCC is now stronger than ever.
He can now pave the way for the Holy ROMAn Empire od the german Nation, the final resurrection.
Just note how he is half-Italian (aka Roman) and studied (or should I say "indoctrinated" in Germany). Germany's PM will soon change too! The current one is not aligned to Francis' plans.
2 Popes in 1. He will continue and fast forward Benedict's programs of taking back "their lost aheep" and John Paul II as a "sheep" face, loved by many, "of the people".
Now I'm not saying he is evil. He probably is not aware, especially if you were a Jesuit and studied in Germany. Lost if you will.
But no doubt it is him.
-this is an analysis, not a divine revelation (not like my divine revelation with Benedict not lasting long and isn't the one).
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Internet Pilgrim
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:25 pm | |
| - Quote :
- -this is an analysis, not a divine revelation
Maybe not, but it's an insightful analysis (about the Black Pope always working in the shadows & now moving out to full control of the church.) I really expected Turkson to be elected because of that dream/vision you had some time ago - the black prez & pope. But maybe we all took it too literally- not a black pope in the sense of race, but a black pope in the sense of the Jesuit Black Pope. | |
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laibcoms
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:54 pm | |
| Yep, same, I only realized it after reading that he is a Jesuit Priest. Then the Black Pope stuff I read about a decade or two ago came rushing back. Could be indeed that by "Black Pope".
One literal, one symbolical (or hidden). Considering how Clinton was also called the "First Black President" symbolically. Follow me @jcsesecuneta Add me: Social-Network Portal Site: The Hæven of John
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Kitiara
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:25 pm | |
| I don't know if this means anything or not, but both of his parents were Italian immigrants to Argentina. | |
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laibcoms
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:26 am | |
| - Kitiara wrote:
- I don't know if this means anything or not, but both of his parents were Italian immigrants to Argentina.
Both? weird, conflicting information. local news here were saying his mother was an Italian immigrant and his father a local argentinian, that according to the vatican. now i wonder… Follow me @jcsesecuneta Add me: Social-Network Portal Site: The Hæven of John
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Dove Super Elite
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:07 am | |
| For clarification: - laibcoms wrote:
It is him, the last before the tribulation. That varies with Malachy Martin's vision. He said that this is the last Pope, and that he will lead the flock through the Tribulation. At the end of which, Rome will be destroyed. | |
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Pony1
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:24 am | |
| I am not ready to say Francis is Peter the Roman, I think we need to be careful to not want to see something that isnt there and stretch the words of the prophecy to fit what we see... only time will tell I guess; his family is from Italy but his identity lies in Argentina
as usual things are gray not black and white | |
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Dove Super Elite
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:40 am | |
| - Pony1 wrote:
- I am not ready to say Francis is Peter the Roman, I think we need to be careful to not want to see something that isnt there and stretch the words of the prophecy to fit what we see... only time will tell I guess; his family is from Italy but his identity lies in Argentina
as usual things are gray not black and white I don't blame you, but in context with everything else, the 'peculiar' timing of events, the palpable 'push' of the PTB to 'get 'er done' is just about overwhelming now for those who watch. And I see many of our members are from southern California. Does that particular 'geography' lend a certain 'extra' to the desire to know just where we are in Bible prophecy? I'm pretty sure it would for me! I want to know the thoughts of God. Everything else is just details. A Miracle is when God makes His Reality our Experience
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laibcoms
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:40 am | |
| Yep, it is different. It's only an analysis, my personal view or understanding. My "Black Prophecy" (ifnyou will) is only about the last US President and the last Pope. The last US Prez will be black, and the last Pope will show up during that last US Prez.
Then my "Benedict Prophecy" was about Benedict not the last Pope but the one replacing him. That he won't last long in the papacy.
As far as the last US Prez and the last Pope is concerned, there are no more about it. So I gave my analysis only and noted it as such.
And the way I see it, again my own only not divine, is that he is the last pope of the RCC before the tribulation. Then sometime during the tribulation, maybe halfway, a new religion will replace the RCC ending, where all former religions plus the new (alien) god are one. With only one ruler, the false prophet.
I'm even looking at the possibility that the separation of church and state will end. With the world's and religious capital in Jerusalem.
As far as prophecies are concerned, mine on this topic were already fulfilled. What happens after that looks like is no longer for me to share, after al, I did ask God to no longer show me things, I find it hard to handle and it changes your life dramatically. (Like for example, for a long time I was complacent because I knew it is not yet time, and that is a very bad thing to do.)
So yea it is different because it is just my own analysis already. Unless I get a new one (and I hope not).
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laibcoms
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:54 am | |
| - Pony1 wrote:
- I am not ready to say Francis is Peter the Roman, I think we need to be careful to not want to see something that isnt there and stretch the words of the prophecy to fit what we see... only time will tell I guess; his family is from Italy but his identity lies in Argentina
as usual things are gray not black and white True that. Obama still have, I dunno, until 2016? (I'm not from the US.) The timeframe is short but true, I agree, anyrhing can still happen to the new pope. But as far as "divine revelation" is/are, I don't have any re: Francis, except the one I mentioned earlier in the Benedict Prophecy or Revelation (whichever is fitting, I care less about terminologies in this sense), and the much earlier Black Prophecy/Revelation. And I don't wish to receive anything more, it is unnerving to see it all come to life in front of you. But if I get another, well, it is not for me to decline, that I will share again. Tho as someone who doesn't believe in coincidences, and there are just so many clues and similar claims/prophecies/revelations from indepenpent sources, it is hard not to analyze it that way. I don't even know about all the other black pope predictions of the other people worldwide until today. Even locally here in the Philippines it is news from yet another person. And Im glad Im not the one they're interviewing. Sory, it really unnerves me… Follow me @jcsesecuneta Add me: Social-Network Portal Site: The Hæven of John
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rawblues
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:35 pm | |
| - Pony1 wrote:
- as usual things are gray not black and white
Yes, isn't that the truth! | |
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Proskuneo
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:18 pm | |
| I like how God uses people with interesting names. Pope Benedict while he chose the name for the Benedictine Monks always reminded me of Benedict Arnold the traitor. His real last name is Ratzinger? Are you kidding me? I think his retirment has thrown the rat (a) zinger.
Like it or not, understand it or not, Pope Francis is the face of christianity in our world. (Maybe I can sit next to him on the bus!!! If ony I knew how the bus system worked.)
I believe he will lead/feed his people through the tribulation. Let his actions be the proof. | |
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Dove Super Elite
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:52 pm | |
| - Quote :
- Like it or not, understand it or not, Pope Francis is the face of christianity in our world.
He represents the true "Replacement Theology'. Grrr. Who, what organization has the voice to lead another Protestant Reformation. So many are already sold out, wolves that they are. I think the Bible tells us the Word and the Spirit will be found no more on the earth, and darkness will prevail. I wonder what, indeed, he will lead them all to. They'll have to wake up on their own. And the Bible says they will barely be able to be saved themselves...no Grace for family or friends, fellowships or congregations. Very grim. Let the bus go by. I want to know the thoughts of God. Everything else is just details. A Miracle is when God makes His Reality our Experience
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laibcoms
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:57 pm | |
| That's one of the major goal of the RCC and the Jesuits, replacement theoligy. Now that the Jesuits are going back to their roots, their purpose, it really is hard not to think otherwise in regard to this new pope. Especially if you don't believe in coincidences.
But hey, let them come! It's not like they have contol over my salvation. No matter who they put there sitting on the false throne pretending to be the vicar of Christ, at the end of the day, salvation is with the Lord Jesus Christ. Getting the interpretation of these clhes right or wrong does not matter at all.
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rawblues
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| Subject: Re: It is him, the last before the tribulation Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:32 pm | |
| - laibcoms wrote:
- No matter who they put there sitting on the false throne pretending to be the vicar of Christ, at the end of the day, salvation is with the Lord Jesus Christ. Getting the interpretation of these clhes right or wrong does not matter at all.
^_~ Absolutely....... this is what it all boils down to in the end. | |
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