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PostSubject: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 17, 2014 9:58 pm

Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here

The first of four Blood Moons has appeared in the sky. Millions of Christians have become fascinated with the phenomenon. Books have been written on the subject. Why all the interest and excitement? Because the lunar event is supposedly all about Bible prophecy and the end of the world or the so-called “rapture” of the church that these prophecy prognosticators claim will usher in the Second Coming of Jesus.
Megachurch pastor John Hagee is warning his San Antonio congregation and international following of a “world-shaking event that will happen between April 2014 and October 2015.”
This is the same John Hagee who “gained international attention two years ago for a series of sermons asking, ‘Could 2012 be the end of the world as we know it,’ that was broadcast to millions worldwide via his organization John Hagee Ministries and Global Evangelism Television.”
A real prophetic sign would be if the moon actually turned to blood like God turned the Nile River into blood. Now that would be a sign of things to come!
There have been blood moons before. There have been tetrads before. And it’s these past tetrads that have brought out the prophecy speculators.
Mark [Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries in Puyallup, Washington] found that we have had blood-red moons on the first day of Passover and the first day of Sukkot on back-to-back years seven times since 1 A.D. Three of these occurrences were connected to 1492 (the final year of the Spanish Inquisition), 1948 (statehood for Israel and the War of Independence), and 1967 (the Six-Day War)—some of the most significant days in Jewish history. The others were in 162/163 A.D., 795/796 A.D., 842/843 A.D. and 860/861 A.D. We don’t have any historical connections for these years at this time, but we do know of significant Jewish persecution during the eighth and ninth centuries.
Actually, the tetrads appeared in 1493/1494, 1949/1950. In these two cases the blood moons appeared after the events for which they are said to have had prophetic significance. The ones in 1967/1968 appeared during the conflict that lasted just six days. “This isn’t even the first tetrad of this century (that was in 2003-2004) and including this one there will be seven more before the year 2100.”
This means, given the chronology of the appearance of past blood moons, the significant prophetic event of our most recent blood moon and the three that follow should have happened in 2013.
Notice the years of the other tetrads and this comment: “We don’t have any historical connections for these years at this time.” Why not? If blood moons are so prophetically significant, there should have been a major prophetic event in those years related to Israel. In fact, if these upcoming blood moons are indicators of a so-called “rapture,” then why weren’t they signs for it then? The same question needs to be asked of the ones in 1949/1950 since Israel had become a nation again the year before.
And if these four blood moons are so significant for Israel, then why is it that “Data published by NASA reveals that all but the last of the four eclipses will not be visible from the Middle East, and even the fourth will only be partially visible.” This makes no sense if the blood moons are for Israel.
If blood moons are so significant for Israel, then why wasn’t there a tetrad of blood moons when Israel was taken into captivity by the Babylonians in 586 BC, when the temple was destroyed by the Romans in AD 70, an event predicted by Jesus in the Bible’s Olivet Discourse ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Matt. 24]Matt. 24[/url]), or around the time of the Holocaust? These events are at least as significant as Israel becoming a nation again in 1948.
What about these blood moons coinciding with Passover (April 15, 2014 and April 4, 2015) and Sukkot or the Feast of the Tabernacles (October 8, 2014 and September 28, 2015)? James Vincent makes an important point:
This is certainly unusual but hardly surprising given that the Jewish calendar is based partly on lunar cycles: Passover is always marked by a full moon and a lunar eclipse cannot–by definition–happen at any other time apart from a full moon.
Consider what Paul writes:
Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day — things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Col. 2.16-17]Col. 2:16-17[/url]).
The Jewish feast days and festivals no longer have any relevance since Jesus has come. Christians are dwelling on blood moons when they should be dwelling on the “sun of righteousness” ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Mal. 4.2]Mal. 4:2[/url]; cf. 2 Sam 23:4; Isa 30:26; 60:1).
These so-called blood moons have never had any prophetic significance. The blood moon prophecy of Joel doesn’t say that the moon will look blood red; it states that it will turn into blood:
I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth,
Blood, fire and columns of smoke.
The sun will be turned into darkness
And the moon into blood
Before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Joel 2.30-31]Joel 2:30-31[/url]; [url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Acts 2.19-21]Acts 2:19-21[/url]).
Why doesn’t anyone mention anything about the sun turning into darkness and stars falling ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Rev. 6.12-14]Rev. 6:12-14[/url]) in today’s discussion about blood-red moons? It’s a package deal. If we are to interpret Joel’s prophecy and similar prophetic passages correctly, we must understand how this type of language is used elsewhere in Scripture. See passages like [url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Isaiah 13.13]Isaiah 13:13[/url], [url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Isaiah 34.4]34:4[/url], [url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Isaiah 51.6]51:6[/url], [url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Ezek 32.7-8]Ezek 32:7-8[/url], and many more. It’s important to note that Israel is symbolized as sun, moon, and stars ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Gen. 37.9-10]Gen. 37:9-10[/url]; [url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Matt. 24.29]Matt. 24:29[/url]; [url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Rev. 6.12-14]Rev. 6:12-14[/url]; [url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Rev 12.1-2]12:1-2[/url]).
James Jordan gets to the heart of the meaning of the moon turning into blood passage:
The turning of the moon to “blood” points, I believe, to something particularly Jewish: the sacrificial system. If they will not accept the blood of Jesus Christ, the final Sacrifice, then they themselves will be turned into blood. They will become the sacrifices. . . . That is what the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 was all about.
But Joel is issuing a warning. Those who listen can escape. “And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of Yahweh will be delivered; for ‘on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape,’ as Yahweh has said, even among the survivors whom Yahweh calls” ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Joel 2.32]Joel 2:32[/url]). Just as Isaac escaped death on Mount Zion because of the substitute ram that God provided ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Genesis 22.14]Genesis 22:14[/url]), so those who trust in the Lamb of God will escape the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. Such is Joel’s warning, reiterated by Peter on the day of Pentecost [[url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Acts 2.19-21]Acts 2:19-21[/url]].”
All of this attention on a shadow is taking significance away from the “light of the world” ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/John 8.12]John 8:12[/url]). Too many people are fixed on the end of history rather than on the One who made history nearly 2,000 years ago on the cross of redemption and the empty tomb. When the dust settles, and nothing predicted happens, how many people will drift away from the faith after another prophetic false alarm? How many people will discard the Bible as a fraud because of the hype and hysteria of something that the Bible says nothing about? Is it any wonder that “there are just as many Americans skeptical of the Bible as there are engaged with the Bible”?
Decades of false predictions supposedly based on the Bible have done irreparable harm—many people end up questioning the integrity of the Bible.
- See more at: http://americanvision.org/10564/blood-moon-day-still/#sthash.6vNa08Dd.rrHUeR7p.dpuf
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 17, 2014 10:47 pm

Jesus said the Sun needs to diminish in light also!... so, continue waiting... may be soon and may not have anything to do with the blood red moons.
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 18, 2014 10:57 am

joel2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the great and terrible day of the LORD come.

acts2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the great and notable day of the Lord come:


rev6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, see, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became BLACK as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as BLOOD;
13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, even as a fig tree casts her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every slave, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


OF COURSE WERE STILL HERE...
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 18, 2014 7:05 pm

An aquaintance of mine said this.about acts ch 2: "
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."
I commented that...all that had not happened yet.....
the reply was":
Peter said this was fulfilled, so if it wasn't, then Peter was mistaken (after being filled with the Spirit).
How do I reply to this? Obviously not read with prayer first, so......
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 18, 2014 7:29 pm

It's a twofold prophecy, where verses 17-18 were fulfilled in Jesus' day, and verses 19-21 are for today. It's the same concept as in Isaiah 61:1-2 where Jesus fulfilled the first part of the prophecy, just like it says in the Gospel. Isaiah 61:1-2  ''1The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;'' Jesus fulfilled this prophecy from the start of verse 1 to the first comma of verse 2. The day of vengeance of our God is yet future. So you see, it's a twofold prophecy.
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 18, 2014 10:05 pm

Wish I was one of the 144 000 but I'm sure I've told a lie.
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where did peter say this was fulfilled ?
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 19, 2014 8:24 pm

In acts ch 2... v 16; Peter does say..."this is that......which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
then 17-20 has not happened yet and I asked if that had happened.... when did it? It is obviously a prophecy yet to be fulfilled, but you know some people....
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 20, 2014 2:04 am

Here in the Pacific NW we can miss those signs and wonders in the heavens really easily, because we have so much cloud cover and rain. At times just getting a stretch of nice weather can nearly feel like signs and wonders.

I have been intrigued by these blood moon discussions, but I have also kept them in perspective. The very nature of certain feast days always falling on full moons essentially means that the lunar eclipses are just normal form. The tetrads are not as frequent, but not as rare as we may be lead to believe.

I still tend to think the real blood moon will be an unmistakeable event (catastrophic?) and not part of the usual pattern of sun, moon and stars...
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 21, 2014 1:19 pm

Who really knows God's timeline? All we can do is give it our best guess. Even our best prophecy experts don't know.

If the Blood Moons wake people up then I'm glad something finally shook them awake (saw a woman in church on Easter that I wanted to shake up. Talk about your bad behavior from a grown mom O-0). The people who are real about Jesus, will stay awake and the others will go back their merry way, and be denied entry. As it is written, Jesus will say "I never knew you."

I look at it, as an opportunity, for all of us to get aquainted with God's calendar.

Maybe the awaken will drift through here and you experts can continue to point them in the right direction. Look at it as an opportunity. I guess that's what Hagee is doing.

After all, it is all very interesting. Especially that star map Jem. Cool! I pray God will send someone on here who can interpret that for us.




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PostSubject: Re: Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here   Blood Moon Day and We’re Still Here I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 21, 2014 1:35 pm

One more thing... Each of us has been "awakened" in different ways. Maybe this is God's plan to awaken more. Don't be so quick to negate it just yet. It's only just beginning for some.

The Blood Moons just adds to the wonder and mystery for me.




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