Subject: Why did the USDA buy submachine guns? Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:08 pm
Why did the USDA buy submachine guns?
By Sean Kennedy, CNN updated 3:38 PM EDT, Thu September 25, 2014
A provision of the Homeland Security Act permanently allows investigators at federal regulatory agencies to carry firearms.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Certain civilian agencies employ armed investigators
The USDA just bought 85 "submachine guns"
Congress doesn't know what weapons the agencies have
Washington (CNN) -- The U.S. Department of Agriculture's internal audit arm has 85 shiny new submachine guns, locked and loaded.
They've long had a small police force, and they're not alone, thanks to a mostly forgotten provision in the behemoth 2002 Homeland Security Act that allows federal auditing agencies to equip themselves with agents who carry guns.
Criminal investigators at agencies like the USDA, the Small Business Administration and NASA can carry firearms.
The USDA first gained the permanent ability to arm its criminal investigators in 1981. Twenty-five other federal agencies gained that permanent ability in 2002 as result of the Security Act.
At 73 federal agencies and departments, independent sub-agencies called the Offices of the Inspector General, or OIGs, conduct oversight, perform audits and enforce laws.
It is that last function that led the USDA to order the .40-caliber "submachine guns" in May. A spokesman for USDA OIG told CNN that these "semi-automatic" weapons were acquired on September 9, 2014.
CORRECTION
An earlier version of this story incorrectly suggested federal auditors carry weapons. Only the sworn officers of the audit agencies are equipped with firearms.
The Department of Education's OIG put out a similar purchase order in 2010 for 27 shotguns.
Surprisingly, Congress does not know how many and what type of weapons the agencies have been stockpiling, according to Republican Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah.
He wants a Governmental Accountability Office report on the issue and has introduced legislation this year to strip the OIGs of their guns.
"Americans don't see why dozens of federal agencies need their own highly armed police forces with the authority to raid homes and businesses," Stewart told CNN.
So why do investigators at agencies better known for meat inspections and processing crop insurance claims need automatic weapons? "Regarding the need for weapons' procurements, OIG's Investigations division conducts hundreds of criminal investigations each year, some of which involve OIG agents, USDA employees, and/or members of the public facing potentially life threatening situations," USDA Deputy Counsel Paul Feeney said.
But the USDA did not have those law enforcement powers prior to a 2002 law meant to correct for the poor law enforcement coordination prior to September 11.
One of the unforeseen changes was section 812 that turned the Inspector General offices into law enforcement agencies.
Prior to that, Inspectors General had to ask for special permission -- citing specific need to carry firearms -- from the U.S. Attorney General. These were granted on an ad hoc basis and almost universally, but they had to be renewed. The 2002 Homeland Security Act codified these law enforcement powers and the right for agents of the Inspectors General to carry firearms.
The agencies efforts to stock weapons and ammunition caught the eye of curious lawmakers in 2013 when the House Oversight Committee held a subcommittee hearing.
The hearing revealed that the Social Security Administration has 290 investigators who carry firearms, but for the past two decades, those agents have only fired their guns twice in the line of duty.
But agencies are getting some use of their police gear.
Last year, the EPA launched a criminal investigation into an Alaskan gold mine for potential violations of the Clean Water Act. They sent 10 officers (five from the EPA OIG who carried shotguns) inbulletproof vests, according to a review of the incident by the state of Alaska. No charges have been levied.
In 2011, the FDA conducted armed raids of an Amish farm searchingfor raw-milk related infractions.
In justifying the need for Social Security's audit arm to carry guns, SSA's Inspector General Patrick O'Carroll cited a standoff with a murder suspect. But O'Carroll acknowledged Kentucky State Police accompanied Social Security's agents in that pursuit.
Rep. Stewart thinks that law enforcement-specific agencies should take the lead, not regulators. "When there are genuinely dangerous situations involving federal law, that's the job of the Department of Justice, not regulatory agencies like the FDA or the Department of Education," Stewart said.
Pete Kennedy, president of the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund, whose members have been raided by the FDA, said agents have even pointed their guns at unarmed food producers suspected of permit violations.
"These people don't need their own enforcement teams."
"They have the U.S. Marshals at their disposal, if there really is a problem," Kennedy told CNN.
USDA's Inspector General office confirmed to CNN that the majority enforcement actions -- arrest and search warrants -- are done in conjunction with another federal, state or other law enforcement agency.
According to a 2012 report by the Department of Justice's statistics arm, there were over 3500 gun-wielding agents assigned to the various Offices of Inspector General as of 2008, including 52 at NASA, 34 at the Small Business Administration, six at the National Science Foundation, and 28 at the Office of Personnel Management, the federal government's HR wing.
Subject: Re: Why did the USDA buy submachine guns? Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:16 pm
To shoot Cows with Mad Cow disease of course! haw haw.
billetman
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Subject: Re: Why did the USDA buy submachine guns? Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:23 am
For when someone say's "where's the beef"
quietobserver Super Elite
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Subject: Re: Why did the USDA buy submachine guns? Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:51 am
They've spread these mass firearm purchases over almost 100 agencies over several years to make it difficult to prove the true scope of all this. If they were to actually have their inventory independently audited what % do you suppose would be "missing"?
Private American citizens have been losing them at a pretty good clip too.
More than 62,000 guns unaccounted for in U.S. since 2008, report finds
Subject: Why did the USDA buy submachine guns? 
Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:08 pm
That's what I was thinking too. 
