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PostSubject: Water, Water, Everywhere and not a Thought to Think    Water, Water, Everywhere and not a Thought to Think  I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 09, 2015 8:30 am

Water, Water, Everywhere and not a Thought to Think 
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Tuesday, June 09, 2015 
Wendy Wippel 



Have you heard that the Genesis flood was really only a flood of the Black Sea? 


 No? The cable channel "proving" it has aired about a thousand times!  Repetition, however,  doesn't make an hypothesis true, and there's a problem.  It's called world history.


What the scientists either don't know or won't admit is that there are actually more than 500 separate cultures throughout the world whose tribal histories include a memory of an ancient global flood.


A Chinese legend called the Hihking relates the story of Fuhi, the only man whose family survived a devastating worldwide flood.  The Chinese record states that the entire world was flooded by waters that covered even the highest mountains and that Fuhi, his wife, three sons and three daughters escaped the flood in a giant boat.  When the waters receded, Fuhi and his family emerged from the boat to repopulate the earth —producing eventually the Chinese people, who considered Fuhi the father of Chinese civilization.  A temple relief even depicts Fuhi with dolphins surrounding the boat and a dove flying overhead with an olive branch in its beak. (The Maio tribe of China, in an oral legend preserved in a wedding song, even remembers Noah's (Nuah's) wife's name: Gaw Bo-lu-en.)


The Cree Indians of North Dakota (i.e., the other side of the world from China) say that the early world was destroyed by a global flood in which only a few humans survived, saving both themselves and the animals in a giant canoe.  The Cree legend, like many others, specifies that the floodwaters which covered the earth came from both the sky (as rain) and the ground, a detail that, though also in the Biblical account, is often overlooked.


Pre-flood events were a collective memory carried by the descendants of Noah as they spread throughout the earth; flood stories, therefore, are often recognizable even in ancient mythology.  In the Greek story of Deucalion and his wife Pyrrha,  Zeus (the supreme Greek god) became angry at human pride and prepared to destroy the world with a flood.  Deucalion was instructed to build a large wooden boat, into which he was placed, with his wife, by his father.  Rain fell until all but Mt. Olympus (the home of the gods) and one other mountain were covered.  The boat finally came to rest on the other mountain, and they disembarked, the only humans to survive. (Does this sound familiar?)   
                                        
497 similar flood stories sprinkled between China, North Dakota, and Greece make it difficult to explain the Genesis flood away as a merely local flood in the vicinity of the Black Sea.


Christian scientists are now contributing research on the veracity of the Genesis account, one particular effort involving statistical analysis of 200 of the recognized flood legends. 


Of populations studied:



  • 88% specified that one specific family was selected to survive
  • 66% recorded a warning issued before the flood
  • 66% emphasized that the flood was a punishment for human wickedness
  • 95% asserted that the punishment consisted of the flood alone
  • 70% detailed the construction of some sort of vessel
  • 73% included the rescue of the world’s animals
  • 82% declared the flood global
  • 37 % included birds in the decision to disembark
  • 10% specified that exactly eight people were saved.



Statistics like these, in which the stories evaluated share numerous specific details (despite coming from geographically distant cultures), strongly suggest that the legends represent tribal memories of a genuine early event.


An interesting side note: one of the main scientific objections to a global flood is that there just wouldn’t have been enough water.  Reputable Christian scientists suggest the possibility of a water canopy in the atmosphere that, with changing earth conditions, was released as torrential rains.  If true, that water canopy would have provided a substantial shield for humans with regards to UV light, the primary source of genetic mutation. (Every cell of your body experiences about 1000 mutations/day related to UV light; mutations which are routinely repaired, without consequence, in a young and healthy body.)


DNA insult as the result of increased levels of UV exposure could explain the enigmatic, dramatic and much ridiculed post-flood decrease in life spans described in the Biblical account.  But how to test that?


Scientists face this dilemma regularly in the laboratory, and the go-to statistic is called the coefficient of correlation, also known as the r-value, which tests whether or not there is a genuine relationship between two parameters.


A coefficient of 1 indicates a tight, virtually complete correlation: for example, for plants (which release oxygen in the daytime due to photosynthesis) the coefficient correlation that between UV exposure and oxygen release should be" r" = 1.


In other words, those two parameters (sunlight and oxygen release) are completely correlated because sunlight always induces oxygen release.  For parameters that are always antagonistic (for example with regards to plants) sunlight and carbon dioxide release, "r" should have the value of -1, because the lack of sunlight for plants induces carbon dioxide release.


Any "r" value hovering around zero indicates no relationship to each other at all. (i.e., sunlight exposure and flower color, for example)


I used to do these calculations with some regularity in the laboratory and had the long and convoluted formulas memorized.


Modern science has noted a seeming relationship, between species, with regards to age a puberty and life span, i.e. the relationship between the two seems to remain the same no matter what species is in question.


Would that relationship hold up in one species, humans, as lifespans fell?  R-values would answer that question, and Interestingly, in the magical land of the internet,  now anybody can do them.  (Check out www.easycalculations.com)


The account in Genesis listing Shems’s post- flood descendants lists, for each descendant,  the age at which their first child was born as well as their age at death. (Genesis 11:10-26)  If you enter them sequentially in pairs, and then tell the site to calculate the r value,  the resulting r =  .751, a value that the statistical sciences will tell you is a “very strong” indicator of a dependence between the two variables evaluated.


What does that mean?  It means that, since I highly doubt that Moses ever studied coefficient of correlation analysis, he was recording actual birth and death data of actual people who lived in the days after the flood and (incredibly enough) not, as you have no doubt read, constructing fairy tales.


It means that the coefficient of correlation strongly indicates that some actual physiological process, (such as a gradual deterioration of the genome), induced by flood-related environmental changes, caused life spans to drop in a predictable pattern.


It means that, as always, “thy word is truth”, and a reliable record of that which is seen as well as that which is unseen.   (Amen?)


And with sites like www.easycalculations.com, pretty much anybody can prove it to themselves!
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PostSubject: Re: Water, Water, Everywhere and not a Thought to Think    Water, Water, Everywhere and not a Thought to Think  I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 09, 2015 12:05 pm

Nuwa and Fuxi or Fu Xi (The Jade Emperor)
They were half snake, half human
Possibly Dumuzid and Nisaba
Pangu and Nuwa or Pan and Gou

P’an-Ku literally means basin ancient, basin solid
It means aboriginal abyss
Babylonian Tiamat, the Deep
The big hole in the Pacific Ocean

Heaven’s pillars broke, the cords of Earth snapped. Heaven tilted in the northwest, and thus the sun and moon, stars and planets shifted in that direction. Earth became unfull in the southeast, and thus the watery floods and mounding soils subsided in that direction.

Personally, i believe this is the Pangea/Peleg event.
And that the Earth expanded, the continents divided and the moon flew out of the Earth, temporarily leaving an abyss in the Pacific.

Proserpina is the moon, she is Earth’s daughter.
Her substance is made of earth.
Pluto is the shadow that sometimes obstructs the moon.
Plouton Helios and Koure Selene - Pluto the Sun, Kore the Moon
Interesting that her name is Kore, as in core of the Earth.

There was a time when the moon appeared.
Born from Earth when the continents were dividing to accomodate more people.
The moon was born from the underworld.

i'm thinking that Nimrod showed up shortly thereafter.
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