Why Are Some People So Nasty? Blame Demonic DNA [Nephilim Genes Awakening?]

The devil made me do it?

Nice try! This is rubbish and a cop out for bad behavior.

Oh man.  I thought I had a simple opinion on this (not that I hold any opinions
in too high regard-especially my own, which I aim to keep always subject to revision). (Opinions, not beliefs)

Nature (DNA) vs nurture (physical, mental, emotional environment)?

Some of the most "Christ like" behaving individuals I know are atheists.
They are able to translate a higher moral and ethical standard of action in
everyday life than many 'Christians' are able to do.

YET,  I see also that they make allowance for sin.  Neither the atheist-agnostic,
or the Zealous Christian (a la Westboro Baptist type) seem to know what to do
about SIN.

What we do believe is that we are born under a curse, into a fallen world.
I believe that even in this condition, the Mind, Thought, Heart, Calling of God is
ever present for every one of us, whomsoever will.

There are those who heed the Heart Call, and those who reject it for whatever reason (excuse) they adopt; intellectual, experiential, historical, etc.  And especially if they make it to the bottom line, where they realize that the "I will" must be laid at the Cross in order to gain the Eternal Life of Righteousness in Him,
by Him, through Him.

So I've found my opinion:  That is it not governed by DNA or by nurture.  It is governed by choice.

Though Dove make some valid and thoughtful points I must disagree with at least one of them.

Dove wrote:

That is it not governed by DNA or by nurture.  It is governed by choice.

Some people are just plain "born bad" and that's a fact. Ask any psychopath. S/he can be born into the most loving nurturing family and still be mean as a rattlesnake without empathy or a conscience. Same goes for the ones born to hateful non-caring families. Born that way and always that way no matter their life situation. Ask about the Hillary's of the world. Want an eye opening education? Go study the super elite. This stuff isn't so hard to find. Want to loose your lunch? Investigate the British Royals. That'll put you off your food for a while and give you nightmares to boot.

Every, and I mean EVERY ancient culture wrote about the "gods" who mated with humans and created hybrids. Look some of the ancient writings up. Even the Bible speaks about this. Zeus, Hercules, Isis, Osiris, Gilgamesh in the middle east, Quetzalcoatl, and many others in the Americas, Goliath, King of Og and the like tribes in the Bible. Always surrounded by the snake gods, Lizards, reptilians and Dragons (Chinese - Japanese, etc.) and the assorted serpents they all worshiped. Every culture has their ancient god stories. Amazingly they are all lizard like, and  all the stories from all points on the planet line up to verify each other. The gods bred with humans and out popped some of the worse examples of corrupted flesh on the planet. And they are still here today.

I'm beginning to think that David Icke maybe isn't such a nutter after all.

No, there is some genetic tampering and mixing going on here both in the ancient past and continuing today on the transhumanist movement.

The "Queen" and other royals and elites may very well carry (dare I say it) reptilian DNA when examined under the DNA microscope. The Simpsons for sure!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O81rvyZmLA

Yay!  Discussion!  Love it!

Ok, so I'm not big on 'Reptilians"per se, but I could  do 'wheat and tares', especially
what the Bible might reveal of the nature and definition of tares.
And I can imagine the Cosmic Chessboard with God having pre-elected souls, and
the enemy given his as well.  But that might be hogwash.

On reptilians, IDK when 'science' gave name to the reptilian brain, which is the
animal 'instinct', basic creature survival part of us that I assume is part of what we must
'put away',  and overcome.  It is indeed cannibalistic towards whatever it desires.
No predator animal weighs his hunger against any morality. 


You can see that the spine is involved and the 'lower' basal areas of the brain, and is
VERY SNAKE-LIKE.

So my problem with "Reptilians" is we ALL have that same structure.  My opinion is those peeps that you referenced exist under the influence of the "take what you will-do what you will"
code of the Snake within-the reptilian brain, but do not have an altered dna.

Already I can think of exceptions-inbreeding-leading to insanity, etc. But are they a different
species?  And is that even what you were thinking?

Argh!  Your turn!  LOL.

We all have what science calls a reptilian part of our brain. No lizard DNA required. Modern medicine had to call it something and since this part of the brain regulates involuntary body functions such as heartbeat, breathing, and oh so important when some nephilim (or mugger) puts us in danger that all important 'fight or flight' response. This part of the brain is also responsible for purely REACTIONARY responses. Something happens you automatically react without thinking. All in all the same automatic things a lizard, snake, etc. with no higher function would do. Hence, the reptilian brain label. Believe it or not I've studied this for years.

Dove wrote:

Already I can think of exceptions-inbreeding-leading to insanity, etc. But are they a different
species?  And is that even what you were thinking?

The royals and the elite will be the first to tell you that they rule because they were the chosen of the gods. Hmmmm, human nookie coupled with with fallen angels applies nicely right about here. And some angels are reptilian in features, or at least partially if the Bible is to be believed. It's a blood-line thing with these ruling psychos and they do keep it 'all in the family' by inbreeding with each other and trading off maybe a princess daughter in Spain to a prince someplace in Timbuktu. They are all about bloodline purity and breed mostly withing their own crowd. Mixes the bloodline up cause all the inbreeding produces some real retards otherwise. This is fact check-able so do verify. Factiod: This drove the NAZIS fiercely. Recall all that Aryan thing and the "we are the master race" bullshift.

I think David Icke is trying to tell us the same thing that the Bible is telling us but he's doing it in a more secular way. I gotta admit that it's a lot easier to grasp the concept when presented mostly secular. And he does say that the Bible says the same thing he's saying. And indeed it does. There are examples in the Bible of reptilian features on some angels and definitely on many of the fallen ones. It is thought that the devil himself was reptilian. That alone is a fascinating study all by itself.

Devil lizard, now there's a thought.

Ok, i dont think any of us are doubting that nephilim dna exists or that angels mated with human women. Im just saying - blaming dna for a lot of nasty peoples bad behavior is a cop out. Plenty of nasty people are nasty because they choose to be.

But, I agree with Dove. Love the discussion and all the lizard reptillian royalty bloodline stuff!!!!!

A good discussion is probably the only thing you will agree with me on, J. because my gut doesn't think the current understanding of Gen.6 is correct. (and I'm not alone, but those of us with different interpretations don't generate any real excitement.)
I do have explanations for reptilians and giants.  I don't discard everything.  I just think the 'angelic' union was soul-spirit, not physical.  Just as 'rebirth'-a new creature-in the Holy Spiritis a union with the soul-spirit in us.

I was thinking that if DNA is the proof, then let's have some, AND quickly found a couple sources that say they have.  So to be a good sport, here they are:  (I haven't watched them)

They didn't appear to be the same vid, but I guess they are.  I can't delete the
2nd one.  Sorry.

Hey Dove and anyone else interested. This was done today 18 July 2016 in Australia. Only 10 minutes long but in that 10 minutes David Icke pretty much laid the foundation for his reptilian bloodline view. Have a look-see. I don't agree with everything Icke says but on this subject he gets closer than anyone else to what I've concluded from all my years of research.

Hey Yaddy - watch out for that goanna - could be a bloodline relative and/or a spy for the Queen. Why y'all and Canada let that old bag rule over you is and has always been a head-scratcher question for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHlJQDTDQ5k

I don't know all of what I might say on this, but I'll start .
I'm familiar with Icke, though he has such a hatred for the Jews that I stopped listening to him.

I agree there are 'families of power' whose marriage is restricted to other approved 'ruling families'.
Those who sought to marry outside the approved bloodlines were forced to abdicate any throne or position of rule.  We've seen it.  One exception was the Prince of Monico and Grace Kelly, I believe.
(I reject the Merovingian bloodline as bs.)

In the distant past, such marriages served real purpose of land acquisition, defense, peace treaties,
economic benefit.  Today preserving the line seems to be a means of preserving their long accumulated wealth and accompanying lifestyle.  And according to them, their 'subjects' like it this way.   They offer the comfort of tradition, a national pride and identity,and it alleviates the 'peons' from having to make decisions of 'state' that they aren't 'capable' of on their own. 

Yet, in Britain, we know, there's Parliament, and the City of London-the bankers' den of iniquity,
which even Elizabeth cannot enter without permission.
So, how important is the throne, really? 

His next assertion is trickier: the reptilians.  Snakes are reptilians.  We know about a certain snake.
We have reports of men encountering a beautiful snake-being of light as they sat in caves.
Ignatius de Loyola, and Muhammad come to mind quickly. Joseph Smith's encounter with the angel
Maroni.

Did they see a physical being of flesh and blood, or a spirit?  Crowley, Hitler, P.  Manley Hall, et al.

We seem to know that all these men were spiritually corrupt, but not of a different species-DNA.
All sought knowledge, power and even divinity for themselves.  Who does that remind you of? We know.

Quetzalcotl, Kukulcan.  Visits from the same fallen spirit? I think we have to remember too that
the priests, the shamans of earlier civilizations ingested heavy duty hallucenigenics to make contact with the 'gods'.
Their messages are satan's.

According to God, all flesh is corrupt.  Born that way.  But yes, those that side with satan or lucifer,
whatever they think they're doing, open a bottomless pit of a cesspool within themselves.

Cool analysis, Dove. I appreciate your thoughts. I would point out however that Icke is not anti-Jewish however he does rail hard and long against Zionism, as I also do so myself. There is a big BIG difference between the two. Lots of well meaning Christians (and others) get sucked into "the Jew automatically equals Zionism" lie. A little research will bear this out and education would sure quell a lot of misunderstandings and fights.

Subject was touched upon briefly here on the forum back in 2013. See the link below. It'll have links inside that take you to a two part blogtalk radio series by Rob Skiba before he went insane and lost it on all that flat earth nonsense.

https://watchermeet-up.forumotion.com/t2096-rob-skiba-did-israel-really-become-a-nation-in-1948-part-2-mp3-is-up

Skiba insane..   Yeah, he's not on my list of 'go-to's'.  I think he suffers from a phenom.
(no spell check either-grr)  that I don't have a good name for.  Maybe U can come up with one,
where if you stick a mic in front of a person long enough, they begin to babble.  They have no choice.
It's how they make their livelihood, so they're obliged to say something!  ANYthing, apparently
There should be time and tenure limits!  LOL.

I confess to leaving the Zionist debate alone.  Even those times and those people whom we might
consider 'bad' are sometimes doing God's bidding.  I just figure He knows, and so I don't really
need to try to form an opinion.  What if I'm wrong and then speak it?   So I don't even remember what I had studied of it in the past.

Once I get these 'puter bugs worked out, I'll re-find a bio on Soros.  I'm not afraid to call him Bad....

We didn't retouch on the nephilim or giants.  What do I have???  Just more opinions, and they're
a dime a dozen.  I will just say that when we work through Gen. 6 with a concordance,  there are other translations of the words in the verses that imply again 'people of power', men of influence, as a ruler might have power.  Or women who were seduced spiritually by the fallen angels.
Satan offers power and wealth to those who give him their allegiance, which could account for men of influence, of strength or might as meaning authority.

I'm wary of the literal translation of those passages in part because God uses 'marriage', 'children', 'bride', Groom,  etc. to refer to Israel, and to the 'redeemed' in Christ. 

I feel that we have to do too much conjecture and interpretation, through too many verses, to
accept that the union of the fallen angels with the daughters of men was a physical union.
Besides, I've had kids.  That was enough!  Never mind birthing a giant!! LOL.

Yet,, there were giants.  So where did they come from?  I have a simpler answer..in a bit.

*... this is 'kinda-sorta' on topic, but as far as the human side goes, well, check this passage of scripture out, especially the first half:


Ezekiel 18... The word of the Lord came to me again: 2 “What do you mean by repeating this proverb concerning the land of Israel, ‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge’? 3 As I live, says the Lord God, this proverb shall no more be used by you in Israel.4 Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins shall die.
5 “If a man is righteous and does what is lawful and right— 6 if he does not eat upon the mountains or lift up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, does not defile his neighbor’s wife or approach a woman in her time of impurity, 7 does not oppress any one, but restores to the debtor his pledge, commits no robbery, gives his bread to the hungry and covers the naked with a garment, 8 does not lend at interest or take any increase, withholds his hand from iniquity, executes true justice between man and man, 9 walks in my statutes, and is careful to observe my ordinances—he is righteous, he shall surely live, says the Lord God.
10 “If he begets a son who is a robber, a shedder of blood, 11 who does none of these duties, but eats upon the mountains, defiles his neighbor’s wife, 12 oppresses the poor and needy, commits robbery, does not restore the pledge, lifts up his eyes to the idols, commits abomination,13 lends at interest, and takes increase; shall he then live? He shall not live. He has done all these abominable things; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon himself.
14 “But if this man begets a son who sees all the sins which his father has done, and fears, and does not do likewise, 15 who does not eat upon the mountains or lift up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, does not defile his neighbor’s wife, 16 does not wrong any one, exacts no pledge, commits no robbery, but gives his bread to the hungry and covers the naked with a garment, 17 withholds his hand from iniquity, takes no interest or increase, observes my ordinances, and walks in my statutes; he shall not die for his father’s iniquity; he shall surely live.18 As for his father, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother, and did what is not good among his people, behold, he shall die for his iniquity.
19 “Yet you say, ‘Why should not the son suffer for the iniquity of the father?’ When the son has done what is lawful and right, and has been careful to observe all my statutes, he shall surely live. 20 The soul that sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
21 “But if a wicked man turns away from all his sins which he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness which he has done he shall live. 23 Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? 24 But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity and does the same abominable things that the wicked man does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds which he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, he shall die.
25 “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way not just? Is it not your ways that are not just? 26 When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die for it; for the iniquity which he has committed he shall die. 27 Again, when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is lawful and right, he shall save his life. 28 Because he considered and turned away from all the transgressions which he had committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 29 Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ O house of Israel, are my ways not just? Is it not your ways that are not just?
30 “Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, says the Lord God. Repent and turn from all your transgressions, lest iniquity be your ruin. 31 Cast away from you all the transgressions which you have committed against me, and get yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! Why will you die, O house of Israel? 32 For I have no pleasure in the death of any one, says the Lord God; so turn, and live...”


*... now, i think perhaps it's not only an issue of some folks possessing Nephilimic DNA, that's a given i do believe, but, some folks are just plain demon possessed, and are in need of deliverance...  however, God will judge each man according to his own deeds.  the issue of how mean and nasty some folks are, that's the fallen human condition.  it's the way of the 'flesh', DNA and/or otherwise. they simply need to come to faith in Christ.  those who authentically possess Nephilimic DNA are damned by default.  they do not have the capacity for eternal life, either in heaven or hell.  they simply will not rise on the 'Day of Judgement', IMHO...    


Isaiah 26:14... They are dead, they will not live; they are shades, they will not arise; to that end thou hast visited them with destruction and wiped out all remembrance of them...