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| Subject: Re: video "After the Tribulation: The Pre-Trib Rapture Fraud Exposed" Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:43 pm | |
| I keep the one published in Lion and Lamb Ministries' website. I'm not sure what calendar they use. |
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onlyoneimage
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| Subject: Re: video "After the Tribulation: The Pre-Trib Rapture Fraud Exposed" Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:03 pm | |
| Wil,
Show me where it says that the 10 COMMANDMENTS are the key to the escape. Show me in the scriptures where it says it. | |
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| Subject: Re: video "After the Tribulation: The Pre-Trib Rapture Fraud Exposed" Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:27 pm | |
| - researcher wrote:
Amen Delfi, and I'll add to your comment that if you are in a ditch eating MRE's 3 years into the trib. that I'd like to be next to you in that ditch waiting in rags to greet on our Lord and Savior upon His return. Even as a Messianic Torah keeper I'm not 100% assured to make it through though. The righteous do perish sometimes right along with the wicked. It's always been that way. If someone were to drop a nuke on my city today I'd be vaporized right along with all the others. We really have no guarantees. I do believe that understanding and practicing (think dress rehearsals) the repeating patterns (shadows and types) in Torah will aid me in making the right decisions during the great trib. should I live through it. Amen bro, | |
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| Subject: Re: video "After the Tribulation: The Pre-Trib Rapture Fraud Exposed" Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:11 am | |
| onlyoneimage, I have already explained it here in this post from yesterday: - wil wrote:
- Below are the verses that show why keeping the Commandments, specially the 4th, is the escape in the Great Tribulation.
v10. Satan is right now in heaven before God's Throne accusing us... the believers... day and night.
What is Satan accusing us of? Of course... it is the breaking of God's Commandments! Which specific Commandment the Christians in general are not keeping?
v11. The Christians... those who have the Blood of Jesus... are killed in the Great Tribulation! Notice it didn't say they keep the Commandments.
v14, v17 The Woman, the believers whom God deliver to the safety of the wilderness during the Great Trib... it says they have the Testimony of Jesus and KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD!
It's very clear in the Scriptures.
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- REV 12:
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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onlyoneimage
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| Subject: Re: video "After the Tribulation: The Pre-Trib Rapture Fraud Exposed" Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:53 am | |
| Wil,
We have shown multiple times that the fulfillment of keeping His commandments, is to love God and love each other. Not to keep the specific commandments.
"And THIS is HIS COMMANDMENT; That you believe on the NAME of HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, and LOVE ONE ANOTHER as He gave us COMMANDMENT."-1 John 3:23 | |
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| Subject: Re: video "After the Tribulation: The Pre-Trib Rapture Fraud Exposed" Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:27 pm | |
| Wil, you are assuming that the "woman" who is led into the desert and kept safe represents national Israel and those who observe like her.
However, the "woman" is more likely to be the church including those messianic believers. The early church interpreted this passage to mean the woman was the church.
GOD is far less concerned about us keeping the Law of Moses (which was but a shadow of the New Covenant) than He is about us keeping the Law of Christ.
I do agree that the 10 commandments are an important element of the Law of Christ (though I would differ with most in what it means to observe the Sabbath.)
These pertain to our relationship to GOD and others, which is the Great Commandment.
However, GOD could care less if we observe the dietary and ritualistic laws contained in the Law of Moses. These were meant as foreshadowing examples to teach a deeper spiritual truth. They were not commanded because GOD desired the observances themselves. |
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