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PostSubject: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God   Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 10:23 pm

We need to pray for this man......

Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God

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Rod Pyle / Space.com
Stephen Hawking is brought onstage by a helper to give his presentation, "The Origin of the Universe," at Caltech on Tuesday.

By Rod Pyle

PASADENA, Calif. — Our universe didn't need any divine help to burst into being, famed cosmologist Stephen Hawking told a packed house here at the California Institute of Technology Tuesday night.

Many people had begun queuing up for free tickets to Hawking's 8:00 p.m lecture, titled "The Origin of the Universe," 12 hours earlier. By 6:00 p.m. local time, the line was about a quarter-mile long.
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A second auditorium and a Jumbotron-equipped lawn, which itself was jammed with an estimated 1,000 viewers, were needed to handle the crowd. At least one person was observed offering $1,000 for a ticket, with no success. [Big Bang to Now in 10 Easy Steps]

Stephen Hawking began the event by reciting an African creation myth, and rapidly moved on to big questions such as, Why are we here?

He noted that many people still seek a divine solution to counter the theories of curious physicists, and at one point, he quipped, “What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell for people who asked such questions?”

After outlining the historical theological debate about how the universe was created, Hawking gave a quick review of more scientific cosmological explanations, including Fred Hoyle and Thomas Gold’s steady-state theory. This idea hypothesizes that there is no beginning and no end and that galaxies continue to form from spontaneously created matter.

Rod Pyle / Space.com
Enthusiastic attendees started lining up 12 hours early for Stephen Hawking's 8:00 p.m. lecture at Caltech. The overflow crowd stretched for more than a quarter mile.

Hawking said this theory and several other ideas don't hold up, citing recent observations by space telescopes and other instruments.

After giving a brief historical background on relativistic physics and cosmology, Hawking discussed the idea of a repeating Big Bang. He noted that in the 1980s, he and physicist Roger Penrose proved the universe could not “bounce” when it contracted, as had been theorized.

Therefore, time began at the moment of singularity, and this has likely occurred only once, Hawking said. The age of the universe — now believed to be about 13.8 billion years — fits that model, as the number and maturity of observed galaxies seem to fit in the general scheme.

In another observation of modern religion, Hawking noted that in the 1980s, around the time he released a paper discussing the moment the universe was born, Pope John Paul II admonished the scientific establishment against studying the moment of creation, as it was holy.
“I was glad not to be thrown into an inquisition,” Hawking joked.

He closed by outlining "M-theory," which is based partly on ideas put forward years ago by another famed physicist, Caltech’s Richard Feynman. Hawking sees that theory as the only big idea that really explains what he has observed.

M-theory posits that multiple universes are created out of nothing, Hawking explained, with many possible histories and many possible states of existence. In only a few of these states would life be possible, and in fewer still could something like humanity exist. Hawking mentioned that he felt fortunate to be living in this state of existence.

Hawking closed the event with a familiar plea for continued exploration of the cosmos: “We must continue to go into space for the future of humanity,” he said, adding, “I don’t think we will survive another thousand years without escaping our fragile planet.”

Hawking has been battling the debilitating neurological disorder amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, also known as Lou Gehrig's disase, for 50 years.
The physicist has been spending a month or so at Caltech, as he does each year, sequestered with colleagues, such as fellow theoretical physicist Kip Thorne, to discuss many great mysteries of the cosmos.

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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God   Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 18, 2013 1:33 am

I didn't read it but no matter what....."SOMETHING" had to come from nothing....and only GOD can do that! Very Happy
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I think that the posit for a state of nothingness is where the fallacy of his hypothesis occurs. A state of nothingness has never been observed. It is only a hypothetical point that is a man made and imaginary to try and fit into our mathematics. In reality nowhere in the Universe has a state of nothingness been observed or even speculated upon. Theoretical physicists assume that outside our Universe a state of nil exists (even that statement is contradictory) when in fact it just a "fairy tale" idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God   Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 18, 2013 12:33 pm

Ahh yes, the great preacher of the church of Atheism. Perfect example of the difference between being "educated" and being "wise".

A brilliant fool...
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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God   Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 18, 2013 3:04 pm

t3nsor wrote:
I think that the posit for a state of nothingness is where the fallacy of his hypothesis occurs. A state of nothingness has never been observed. It is only a hypothetical point that is a man made and imaginary to try and fit into our mathematics. In reality nowhere in the Universe has a state of nothingness been observed or even speculated upon. Theoretical physicists assume that outside our Universe a state of nil exists (even that statement is contradictory) when in fact it just a "fairy tale" idea.

It's what happens when their hypothesizing hits the sides of their skulls.
Can you imagine being so arrogant as to say "that's as far as I can think,
so, that must be all there is! chuckle
That's hilarious, really.
I'd love to ask them someday, "So. How'd that work out for you, hmmmmm?"


           
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Quote :
galaxies continue to form from spontaneously created matter.

Show me just one scientifically repeatable experiment that proves this. Just one itty-bitty atom of spontaneously created hydrogen would convince me.
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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God   Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 18, 2013 3:52 pm

He reminds me of Dr. Virgil Swann played by Christopher Reeve on Smallville. He was part of that secret society that was awaiting the Traveler aka Superman aka Apollyon. Never thought that was much of a coincidence. Wink


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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God   Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 19, 2013 10:05 am

Oh man, i feel sorry for this guy. He has spent his life in that miserable chair and if he doesnt get enlightened soon he is in for more misery... Im going to put him in my "idiot smarties" prayer list.
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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God   Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 19, 2013 1:43 pm

Maybe he's doing his time in hell now. So when he dies his sentence has been served. Then God can say...Welcome to heaven. The reality you never thought could exist.

50 years with ALS is unheard of. That in itself is a miracle or a sentence depending how you look at it. I choose miracle.


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I don't think it works that way Smile
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I wonder how much damage he could have done if he was able bodied?
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PostSubject: Re: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God   Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 20, 2013 12:17 pm

Thanks for correcting me Delfi.

Listened to Hall Lindsay this morning and he pointed out that we have become a society that pushes God out. We have pushed God out of our lives, school, government, millitary, and now Stephen Hawking is pushing God out of the universe (darwin already pushed God out of creation).

I never fully understood the one unforgiveable sin that GOD himself pointed out to us when he was here and that is blasphemy against the holy spirit until just now.
Stephen (who is) hawking God might just find himself in the area of weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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