A History Of Syria - Maybe This Will Help Our Understanding

I just finished watching this BBC documentary produced just this year in 2013 called "A History of Syria".  Though it obviously didn't get into some of the more esoteric things we here on this forum discuss it did give me a broader and more educated perspective on what is happening in that country. Having said that just keep in mind that this is after all from the BBC, but I think for what it is the BBC did a fine job.It starts off from around 300-ish AD and follows through to March 2013 when it was aired. I learned a lot and thought y'all might enjoy it as well.

Helpful as well. From Surreal Sadistic Syrian Subterfuge. Attempting to return to the 'Good Old Days' of colonialism and global control. Also incorporates the often referenced 'oopsie' statement by Gen. Wes Clark referencing the pre-9/11 DoD classified document regarding the 7 countries on the table for regime destabilization.

"In the midst of World War I, two Allied diplomats (Frenchman François Georges-Picot and Briton Mark Sykes) secretly agreed on the post-war division of the Ottoman Empire into respective zones of influence in the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916.  The two territories were separated by a border that ran in an almost straight line from Jordan to Iran.   In 1920, a short-lived independent Kingdom of Syria was established under Faisal I of the Hashemite family. However, his rule over Syria ended after only a few months, following the Battle of Maysalun. French troops occupied Syria later that year after the San Remo conference proposed that the League of Nations put Syria under a French mandate.  Syria and France negotiated a treaty of independence in September 1936, and Hashim al-Atassi was the first president to be elected under the first incarnation of the modern republic of Syria."

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-02/surreal-sadistic-syrian-subterfuge

Hey Q, your reputation is 47.  O.o

Eh I'll catch a '-' or two again before too long to get 'er back below the Maginot Line.....

Rand Paul deserves a '+' today though:

"In 2007, then-Sen. Obama stated that no president should unilaterally go to war without congressional authority unless there is an actual or imminent threat to our nation. James Madison argued this same position. Our Founding Fathers understood that the executive branch was the most prone to war. That is the constitutional position.

President Obama’s new position, though, is that while he requests congressional input, he doesn’t necessarily need Congress’ approval. The president and his administration view this vote as a courtesy vote. Even though only 9 percent of the American population supports this intervention according to a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll, and even if Congress votes against it, the president still believes that he reserves the right to involve our soldiers in another country’s civil war.
But Mr. President, that is not how our Constitution works.

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 gives Congress—and Congress alone—the power to declare war. If Congress does not approve this military action, the president must abide by that decision.

There is no debate more significant for a legislator than the decision to engage in war. We must hold our leaders accountable."


Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2013/09/04/sen-rand-paul-why-im-voting-no-on-syria/#ixzz2dylwTIAM

GROUNDZERO wrote:

Hey Q, your reputation is 47.  O.o

"If a warhead, by design or by chance, were to hit the Miniature Neutron Source Reactor (MNSR) near Damascus, the consequences could be catastrophic," Aleksandr Lukashevich said in a Wednesday statement.

http://rt.com/news/syria-strike-nuclear-disaster-427/

Reminds me of the old Luciferian song the Neutron Dance:

And it's hard to say, just how some things never change
And it's hard to find, any strength to draw the line
Woah I'm just burning doin' the neutron dance

More importantly, is the fact that a MNSR operates on 90% enriched Uranium235, 85% is considered "weapons grade". The going rate to bribe a Pakistani scientist to build a simple trigger mechanism isn't much for an oil rich psychopath addicted to power. I'm sure this will be all over our news today..........(sarcasm set to HIGH)

If he hasn't figured that out, any idiot can pull out the core and make the 'dirty bomb' from Hell with that thing. Based on Biblical Prophecy that may very well be a part of his scorched Earth policy. Of course he'll claim that one of our cruise missiles hit it and we'll have -0- way of proving otherwise.
We just THINK everyone hates us RIGHT NOW, wait until THAT goes down.

Assad is an Alawite, or a 13% minority in Syria. His strongholds are basically all now in the North of the country, Allepo being the strongest and where he basically considers home. Based on the map below there's no reason to believe he won't do the 'unthinkable'. Further, he raised a huge fuss back in the 70's or 80's when he threatened to divert part of the Euphrates from the northern mountain region to flow to the Med. It would probably make one heck of a new 'fertile crescent'. If he irradiates all of the downstream Euphrates why not divert the entire river and make it useful. It would even be helpful in stopping the spread of all the Uranium that would flow into the Euphrates and then on into the Persian Gulf. A good portion of the Gulf gets their water from de-salinization plants that don't take out radiation.

Might look a whole lot like that second map, but with a big radioactive marker over "State of Damascus"
 

I'm posting this here because of historical significance of the village.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/al-qaeda-linked-rebels-attack-christian-village-in-syria.html

Al-Qaeda-linked rebels attack Christian village in Syria

RT
September 5, 2013
An Al-Qaeda-linked group attacked a predominantly Christian village sympathetic to the Assad regime in western Syria on Wednesday while rebel and government forces clashed in Damascus.
The attack began at dawn when a Jabhat al-Nusra fighter blew himself up at a government checkpoint near the entrance to the  village of Maaloula, according to a Syrian official and the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which collects information from anti-regime activists.
Maaloula – a mountain village of 2,000 residents 60km northeast of Damascus – is home to some of the most ancient Orthodox Christian relics and is a major pilgrimage destination. It’s also one of the very few places in the world where people still speak Aramaic, a biblical-era language Jesus is believed to have spoken.
Following the suicide bombing, al-Nusra rebels and government forces traded fire, with the rebels eventually seizing the checkpoint and taking over a hotel on a mountain overlooking the village, according the Observatory and a local nun.
Rebels also disabled two tanks and an armored personnel carrier and killed eight regime soldiers during the fighting.
From the mountaintop hotel, rebels fired shells into the village, forcing around 80 people to take refuge in a convent, the nun said.
A Syrian government official has confirmed the attack, AP reported.

Rebel mortar fire hit a sports hall in Damascus, killing Mohammed Ali Neimeh, a member of the national taekwondo team, state news agency SANA reported.
Government forces and rebels also fought in Daraya, located just outside Damascus, according to amateur video obtained by AP.
The ongoing fighting between various rebel forces – often with conflicting aims and loyalties – and Assad’s military unfolded Wednesday as the US came closer to authorizing military attacks on Syrian government entities in response to the alleged use of chemical weapons weeks ago.
A US Senate panel confirmed a resolution for force on Wednesday, which will see a vote from the full Senate soon. Meanwhile, the US House questioned key administration officials about the scope and strategy of any assault on Syrian forces.
A team of UN investigators is still analyzing samples taken near Damascus to confirm whether Western allegations that the Syrian government launched the attack are true.
Regardless, US President Barack Obama said Wednesday that he will not hesitate to use force in Syria even if Congress fails to lend its support.

“As commander in chief I always preserve the right and the responsibility to act on behalf of America’s national security. I don’t believe that I was required to take this to Congress. But I did not take this to Congress because I think it’s an empty exercise,” Obama said during a news conference in Stockholm on Wednesday, after a meeting with the Swedish prime minister.
In a parliament debate, French Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault called for intervention in Syria, saying that Assad had used chemical weapons and will do so again if not deterred by a Western-led force.

Does it seem to any one else here that they are trying to wipe out Christian History... look also at the churches destroyed in Egypt.... it is starting to seem like it to me.

Kind of like the original Farenheit 451 and books burned, if all artifacts destroyed, and people, ... and if there is no memory then it is all gone.
Nothing to dig up or discover... to question or investigate?

That's a good point. I hadn't thought of the actual physical buildings, books, etc.  They're not just going after the Believers, they're tearing everything up as well. Syria & Egypt, that's a lot of history being destroyed. There are several "unique" Christian sites in Saudi Arabia & Yemen as well that have been 'secured'.

spring2 wrote:

Does it seem to any one else here that they are trying to wipe out Christian History... look also at the churches destroyed in Egypt.... it is starting to seem like it to me.

Kind of like the original Farenheit 451 and books burned, if all artifacts destroyed, and people, ... and if there is no memory then it is all gone.
Nothing to dig up or discover... to question or investigate?

Putin said, "This was very unpleasant and surprising for me. We talk to them (the Americans), and we assume they are decent people, but he is lying and he knows that he is lying. This is sad."


No spokesperson, no 'confused statement' he meant blah blah blah. You guys are a pack of liars.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/09/05/obama-kerry-putin-syria-russia-g-20/2769683/

Who to believe..... If Obama decides to War, regardless of Congress's "nay" he won't call it war. He doesn't have to throw the war flag, he can just order strikes. I think if Congress votes Nay. He will wait a week or so and then after listening to everyone call him "feckless, lame and lacking stones" etc... He will destroy Assad's regime with air strikes and set up some Muslim Brotherhood leader like he has done in the past.

What really steamed me today was his statement that "My credibility is not on the line — the international community’s credibility is on the line, America's credibility  is on the line”


This guy is a lying Devil.
My heart tells me that it was the Rebels that launched the Chem. attack.

All we have to go on is intuition because everybody, May be lying. You can't trust anyone, anymore.


Ande can I vent for a moment on that insane, lunatic, warmonger John McCain?  Thank you.

Bam-Bam wrote:

My credibility is not on the line

One can't lose something that one doesn't possess in the first place!

Delfi wrote:

can I vent for a moment on that insane, lunatic, warmonger John McCain?

You go girl! I'm very interested in what you have to say about this man that I have absolute disdain for. I'm willing to bet you and I will pretty much see eye-to-eye on the subject too.

The Bible does address loving our enemies, but it seems to always speak relative a 'human' loving a 'human' enemy. The looks many of these men (and women) get in their eyes from time to time makes me a little uncertain that they apply....?..?

And (credit Spring for the term), and what's with Dick Tater repeatedly going MIA for days on end. NOBODY sees him for extended periods of time. I think the 'Principality' is taking its toll on what's left of his body. I pray for him, or what might be left of him in there.

Delfi wrote:

This guy is a lying Devil.
My heart tells me that it was the Rebels that launched the Chem. attack.

All we have to go on is intuition because everybody, May be lying. You can't trust anyone, anymore.

I can't stomach to look at him or listen to his voice. I believe the Holy Spirit is showing me his malevolence, I just know deep in my heart this person literally lies with every breath, and I've known it for quite some time.

I've heard that 'val', who is absolutely Iranian and a bit of an oddity, is a Persian witch/magus who winds him up and marches him out.

Its kind of a bizarre subject, but if you believe The Word of God in a literal sense and you believe these are the Last Days it isn't too terribly difficult to get your arms around the concept.

Yuck, need to go read The Word after even thinking about it.

scottr99 wrote:

Delfi wrote:

This guy is a lying Devil.
My heart tells me that it was the Rebels that launched the Chem. attack.

All we have to go on is intuition because everybody, May be lying. You can't trust anyone, anymore.

I can't stomach to look at him or listen to his voice. I believe the Holy Spirit is showing me his malevolence, I just know deep in my heart this person literally lies with every breath, and I've known it for quite some time.

I've posted this in another thread, but its probably an issue of importance here as well.

"WASHINGTON, September 4 (RIA Novosti) – US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday that Russia was a supplier of chemical weapons to the Syrian military, but the Pentagon quickly backed off the claim and said Hagel was referring to conventional weapons."

This is becoming a near daily occurrence. He evidently forgot that going Dr. Seuss in front of the House committee on foreign affairs was a matter of public record. They've gotten away with lying a mile a minute to the American people so why stop there?

http://en.rian.ru/world/20130905/183170463/Hagel-Cites-Russia-as-Source-of-Syrian-Chemical-Weapons.html

400 US surface-to-air missiles were 'STOLEN' from Libya during the Benghazi attack and are 'now in the hands of Al Qaeda'
It isn't true because our government tells us so.

Let's look at the whistleblowers' CUH-RAZY attorney whose character is being attacked by dick tater and his little minions.

Joseph E. diGenova

"In December 1992, he was appointed Independent Counsel in the Clinton Passport File Search matter. He was appointed Chairman of the Grievance Committee of the D.C. District Court in 1995 by the judges of that court. In 1997, he was named Special Counsel by the U.S. House of Representatives to probe the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. As a result of that assignment, he was appointed by the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, to sit on the Independent Review Board, which oversees the Teamsters pursuant to a 1989 Consent Decree. He is on that Board with former FBI and CIA Director William Webster and former U.S. Attorney General Benjamin Civiletti. In 2007, Mr. diGenova was retained by the New York State Senate to investigate then-Gov. Eliot Spitzer in the Troopergate matter. 

 For four years, diGenova was United States Attorney, District of Columbia, which is the largest such office, having more than 400 attorneys. He supervised complex Federal criminal and civil matters including international drug smuggling, public corruption, espionage, insider trading, tax fraud, extradition, fraud, RICO, export control and international terrorism. Many of these prosecutions involved negotiations with foreign governments. He conducted a wide-ranging probe of corruption in the D.C. government, which led to the conviction of two deputy mayors. He led the prosecution of Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard. He was the Principal Assistant U.S. Attorney during the prosecution of attempted Presidential assassin, John W. Hinckley. "



Doesn't sound like the 'hack job' that dick tater's press is making him out to be, does he?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2390642/400-surface-air-missiles-STOLEN-Libya-Benghazi-attack-says-whistle-blowers-attorney.html



http://www.digenovatoensing.com/attorneybiosjd.htm



Ted Cruz: US Is Not 'Al-Qaeda's Air Force'

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/04/Ted-Cruz-US-Is-Not-Al-Qaedas-Air-Force

Sadly, it looks like in addition to bowing to the wants of the Saudis & others, we have some clean-up work to do in Syria.

Revealed: America and Russia in secret Syria talks as Moscow warns of nuclear catastrophe if US launches strikes at Assad's uranium reactor

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2412063/America-Russia-secret-Syria-talks-Moscow-warns-nuclear-catastrophe.html

PUBLISHED:03:33 EST, 5 September 2013

Brilliant, let Assad know he's been sold down the river and let's see how rationally he acts. Its known that the Iranians have nuclear devices on the ready, they just need weapons' material. Assad uses half for his dirty bomb, goodbye Damascus; hello Bible prophecy & the other half goes to Iran. That's when we have a REAL PROBLEM.

Done wrote:

That video filled in a lot of holes for me thanks.

This entire thread filled in a bunch for me too. I gotta thank all y'all for the information that is being posted after my original posting. I wasn't expecting this topic to take off the way it did. Thanks.

How about the 'future' of Syria and the world's economy?

"Russia “will help Syria” in the event of a military strike, Putin stressed as he responded to a reporter’s question at the summit.  "

Russia, China, India, Indonesia, Argentina, Brazil, South Africa and Italy were among the major world’s economies clearly opposed to military intervention. 

Notice anything?

'BRICS'

"BRICS members are all developing or newly industrialised countries, but they are distinguished by their large, fast-growing economies^[4] and significant influence on regional and global affairs; all five are G-20 members. As of 2013, the five BRICS countries represent almost 3 billion people, with a combined nominal GDP of US$14.8 trillion,^[1] and an estimated US$4 trillion in combined foreign reserves.^[5] Presently, South Africa holds the chair of the BRICS group." From wiki

They're all actively engaged in ending the dollar and western colonialism. Putin actually referred to Great Britain as a tiny insignificant island today.

Obama REFUSES to rule out striking Syria without approval of Congress as it's revealed he faces a huge loss in House vote

• Obama has said he has the authority to act on his own, but a national security aide said Friday morning that he has no 'intention' to do so
  
  
  
• Congressional staffers told MailOnline that if the less-Obama-friendly House splits along the same lines as the Senate, Obama's proposal will fail
  
  
  
• Obama annoucned he will address the nation next week to make his case to a reluctant public
  
  
  
• The G-20 summit in Russia adjourned without reaching any conclusion about how to handle Bashar al-Assad's use of chemical weapons
  
  
  
• Vladimir Putin, one of Assad's last remaining allies, said he and Obama disagree on whether outside forces should intervene in Syria's civil war
  
  
  
  
• Sen. John McCain warns: 'There would be an impeachment of the president' if Obama sends ground troops into Syria
  
  
  
• Obama's deputy national security adviser concedes that 'we don't expect to have Russian cooperation'
  
  
  

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2414017/Obama-plans-address-Americans-Tuesday-hes-set-lose-big-House-vote-White-House-aide-hints-wont-strike-Syria-Congress.html#ixzz2e9UnepNI


We just THINK we have internal issues now. There's no need to address a reluctant public after you're told NO by Congress, the war authorizing apparatus of the nation's Constitutional Republic.

Some curious articles on this website.

Syrian Arab Army freed Christian village of Maalula from terrorists

http://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2013/09/07/syrian-arab-army-freed-christian-village-of-maalula-from-terrorists/

quietobserver wrote:

Some curious articles on this website.

Syrian Arab Army freed Christian village of Maalula from terrorists

http://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2013/09/07/syrian-arab-army-freed-christian-village-of-maalula-from-terrorists/

zero will fix'em.

Here's an outstanding read:

Drawing an Al-Qaeda Red Line
Why is Assad’s use of WMDs so much worse than Syrian rebels' allying with jihadists?     

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/357858/drawing-al-qaeda-red-line-andrew-c-mccarthy?splash=

More than a little bit interesting. The US/Israeli 'ballistic missiles test' took place in the Med on Tuesday, meaning it was more than likely in response to this, not provacative. Pray the Russians haven't retrofitted these and supplied them Sunburns.

"Two RAF jets were scrambled from their base in Cyprus to urgently investigate Syrian planes that had crossed into international airspace, it has emerged.
The Ministry of Defence confirmed that unidentified planes legally crossed into Cypriot skies from the east of the country last Monday.
But it is understood the behaviour of the aircraft raised suspicions at RAF Akrotiri, less than 200 miles from Syria, prompting the rapid response."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415394/British-jets-Cyprus-scrambled-chase-Syrian-planes-crossed-international-airspace.html#ixzz2eJs7FS7W
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
 

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/moskit.htm

Now that the EYE/I has the lead on info..........

September 8, 2013 | 02:17PM PT
Eye lands headline-making Assad interview and is only net to have reporter in Damascus

The Eye’s news division has already scored some impressive wins in its coverage of the Syria situation by figuring out how to get its journalists into the strife-torn nation.

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/cbs-news-moves-early-to-dominate-syria-coverage-1200603990/

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This was written by Val's dad in 1979. I can assure you that the article does in fact say what the online commentary claims it does. I have a 'legible' copy of the article if need be.

VAL AS IN VALERIE JARRETT, the Iranian born ghoul of a woman who runs Dick Tater's show

 

Edit to add, LINK
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=950&dat=19791106&id=RcFaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=GFkDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6597

Go to page 14, scroll to the right and in the 4th column resides the story, fully legible.

http://www.dailyinterlake.com/opinion/columns/frank/article_7924e4f0-0468-11e2-8da2-0019bb2963f4.html

"What Kerry and McCain neglected to mention was that O’Bagy had been recently hired as the political director of the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF), a little known outfit that functions as a lobbying arm of the Syrian opposition in Washington.
Until today, O’Bagy had failed to note her role as a paid Syrian opposition lobbyist in her Wall Street Journal byline "

Yes you read that correctly. Al Qaeda and its fellow Syrian rebels have paid lobbyists. God help us this country has gone to the dogs.

http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/15283