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Timothy Alberino and Richard Dolan discuss the current state of UFO/UAP disclosure, Elon Musk's astonishing Tesla Optimus 3 Robots, and the exponential development of transhuman technologies.





      

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I finally watched the full Timothy and Richard video I posted yesterday. For me it kicked in at around the 45:00 minute mark. As they both mentioned and I agree totally, there is nothing that will stop it. I know I've said this in other post but I will say it again......"Only The LORD God can put a restraint on it." It reminds me of the event that took place at The Tower of Babel. The LORD God had to step in and he did.

Anything other than that will not stop it from becoming fact. For the vast majority of this, I don't see myself remaining alive long enough. The more I see this unfolding, the more The Book of Revelation becomes clearer. Things that once made little sense, are now being revealed.


      

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Thank you for posting this Scars. I hope to be able to watch it tonight.  I think time is short- so much upside stuff going on. 
 As I worked on the fence yesterday, I heard  strange noises and, as I looked up, saw 2 very,very low flying green  copters going over  the property. There is a  big pipeline going  across and I wondered as they seemed to be looking at it. .. but that's just a guess....

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We can't let others lead us away from The Lord's voice within each of us. Their voice may be far from the path The Lord has in mind for us. We all must listen to what The Lord is telling us to do. Just because I've been drawn to do something doesn't mean it's what you are suppose to be doing.

The Lord may be using a gift or talent in a brother or sister that isn't for me. Just because they are doing it doesn't mean The Lord will use me in the same way.

Some people have a great talent for communicating with others and are very outgoing with their personalities. Others don't have that gift and never will. It takes a diverse makeup of members to complete the whole body.


      

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A message that only appeals to our good feelings can be a huge trap. It's like the wiggling worm on the end of a fishing hook, it looks so enticing, but only misery awaits.


      

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I've been doing some more studying on Revelation 10.

The seven thunders had uttered their voices and John was instructed....."Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not."

A mighty angel had come down from heaven having a "Little Book" in his hand. John was told by a voice from heaven to go and take the Little Book from the hand of the angel. Notice the Little Book was never closed from the time the angel first appeared until the time John takes the open Little Book from the angels hand. Notice also that John was told to "Take it", not just go to the angel and he will give it to you. John had to really want the Little Book and it's contents.

Revelation 10:2-4

And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.


Revelation 10:8-11

And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.

And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

Now notice in the above verses of scripture how John had to take the Little Book. He just didn't walk up to the angel and he gave it to him. All the Little Book and its contents were eaten by John......As John says, he ate it up. He consumed every little detail of it. I believe this Little Book and its contents that John ate was The Book of Revelation. No matter how sweet as honey the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ is, the contents of this Little Book left John's stomach very bitter. The contents of the Little Book is a tough pill to swallow for what will come down on mankind and fulfill the prophecies of the Coming of The Lord.

As it says in the last verse of Revelation 10......"Thou must prophesy again". John through all that he saw and all that he wrote down in the prophecies of this Little Book (The Book of Revelation) will be his fulfillment of prophesy before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

John as a prophet was given the responsibility to deliver God's message, even if it was to be difficult. 

"Remember also The Book of Revelation carries a special blessing with it that no other book does."

Revelation 1:3......."Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."

Revelation 22:18-19

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

John took and ate (Consumed) all the knowledge that Little Book offered. No matter how good it first taste, the knowledge it contained became bitter because it was difficult to accept and bear, resulting in severe grief over things that must come upon mankind.

If we look back at Daniel 12:4 and Daniel 12:9 we can see that Daniel was told also to SEAL the book and shut up the words.

Daniel 12:4

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Daniel 12:9

And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.


      

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Revelation 22:8-10


And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.


Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.


And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.


Until knowledge .increases as was written in The Book of Daniel this book was sealed.


In Revelation 22:10 John has been given the right to write them down at this point in time, because now John has been instructed to SEAL NOT the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.

One key point is there is no time within eternity. John was given the ability to see past, present and future.


      

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There must be flesh saved that is the true DNA-Bloodline of Adam. 

Just as it was in the Days of Noah when the true DNA-Bloodline of Adam was saved to once again begin to replenish the earth. That true DNA-Bloodline of Adam had to make its way to Jesus or Satan would have won the war of the seeds.

That true DNA-Bloodline must make it through the great tribulation as it did through the flood in the days of Noah. That true DNA-Bloodline will live, give birth to new life, and continue forward not only in the "Millennial reign of Jesus Christ", but also to live on through the "Little Season of Satan".


The Abyss (Bottomless Pit) and it's contents are restrained. They have been sealed from entering our world. Once it is opened the restraining has ended and the contents of the Abyss will flood into the earth. From this point you must have the Seal of God and the Armor of God in place or you will have no chance against the strong delusion that is about to be poured out into this earth.


      

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A friend wrote this below and it got my interest very quickly.

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Another tidbit that few if any would ever notice is how Jesus walked on water. He even beckoned to a regular person to walk on it. The person did, but then they started doubting how it was possible.

A simple event. But does anyone ever question why a man who is standing *on* water, would suddenly fall through when he began to doubt he could actually do something like walk on water?

Why did his doubt suddenly translate to falling through the once stable water?

What kind of effect did Christ transmit through the water to keep it stable? And why was the water reverted to it's natural state by doubt?

Anyone care to guess?

(No, I am not saying ordinary people could recreate the same effect of solid water.)

The act of having "Faith" has many more uses than simply what Man has dreamed up.

I would dare to say it is a vital component (if not a vestigial pre-cursor behavior) to an advanced form of life.

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I gave my thoughts below.

The event taking place with Peter walking on water is a true view in how we must always stay strong in our faith throughout our entire lives......"The storms of life will come, smooth sea's don't always last."

At the beginning the water was calm, as was Peter's faith. But as The storm and waves of the sea began roaring Peter's faith was being tested.

When tribulation (Storms, roaring sea's) come in our lives it will bring doubts, and our faith will be tested. These are the moments that keep us on the right path or we move to the left. 

Think about how many times in The Bible it speaks of tribulation in our lives and how it can influence us to lose faith and turn away from The LORD God.

Matthew 13:20-21

As for what was sown on rocky ground, this is the one who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy,

yet he has no root in himself, but endures for a while, and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately he falls away.

The most important thing to remember is that the hand of The Lord Jesus Christ is always there to grab hold of and pull us back into the boat. 

John 16:33........"I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world."


      

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This has always been a  fascinating  part of the Bible to me . The "shortened to 5 months or no flesh be saved"   grips me and needs a lot of "opened eyes" for me to understand it's actual meaning .  Thankfully, since being here, my eyes are more opened but  I  need some eye "drops " to keep going, so I thank you for posting.
 My brain was rambling the other day and I heard a reference to  "the mark". At the same time, I  recalled back to when people would  sign their name  or  make their "mark" on  documents and I  wondered..

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Should I???   From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f604 


At the risk of sounding like Rod Serling, maybe I can offer up an example.


"Imagine if you will"  From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f604 that the world, the earth, this 3 dimensional realm of cause and effect, exists within a (big) box, replete with self-fulfilling governing 'laws' that we all agree to believe in and accept as true.  This is the (fallen) world of the flesh.

Is that all there is?  No. There is the realm of the Creator God, the realm of unseen Spirit.
Now.  Wherever God IS, God reigns, and reigns over His Creation.

Jesus is the Son of God and IS God.  (if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father).
Jesus was/is the embodiment of the Spirit of God and able to operate outside the Laws of the Natural world.
He did it all the time.


As Peter harkened to Jesus calling him 'out of the world', and into the Power and Authority of the Spirit, he too was able to walk on the water.
UNTIL his 'conformed to the world' mind kicked in, and said 'wait a minute. I'm not supposed to be able to do this.'
At that point he began to sink.
The Bible says, Peter heard the sound of the wind and became
afraid.   
Fear, doubt and disbelief stop God from fulfilling His Will. 


Matthew 14:  31 Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. “You of little faith,” he said, “why did you doubt?
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Why do we pray if we don't believe God has the Ability to change
things? Why did He say, "call those things that are not as though
they are".  Walk by faith, not by sight.
Seek Me FIRST, then ask whatsoever you will and it will be done
unto you.  and many more.  From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f60a 


           
            I want to know the thoughts of God. Everything else is just details.
            A Miracle is when God makes His Reality our Experience              
                  

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My friend who wrote his thoughts on the walking on water did a follow up response. I will post it here.

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You do know that scripture does cover several instances of God remarking how people worship objects and statues rather than him who created everything?

Many of the miracles God made in front of the masses were done to set him QUITE APART from those imaginary gods. He also seemingly had a bit of beef with certain "false gods" who were posing as such.

Often God made a point of showing His power to do things which no man or "false gods" could pull off. In fact the bible is riddled with people who either a) never believed or b) did not fathom it possible until it was "done".

In the end, a good portion of Israel never quite came "up to snuff" for Gods standards, in the matters of belief and faith.

The recounting of scripture goes far to show that miracles do not make one have a belief or have faith in the first place. Even Christ himself makes many mentions of the lack of faith in many.

The problem isn't primarily about evidence or even a lack of miracles.

The issue lays much deeper down inside of people. People have always been embroiled in "the world" (even back then) that they only see things at ground level. They cease to imagine there could be anymore.

They rationalize the coincidences in our reality and how things fit together and state: "Wow, chaotic randomness is amazing!"

Even if God performs miracles, that will never satisfy everyone. At some point, people will accept any far fetched argument or stipulation other than there being "a creator".

Miracles do not change that crux of thought for some people. They have faith in the world and what they can plainly see.

Never mind the anomalies they witness to the contrary.


      

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bordercollie wrote:
This has always been a  fascinating  part of the Bible to me . The "shortened to 5 months or no flesh be saved"   grips me and needs a lot of "opened eyes" for me to understand it's actual meaning .  Thankfully, since being here, my eyes are more opened but  I  need some eye "drops " to keep going, so I thank you for posting.
 My brain was rambling the other day and I heard a reference to  "the mark". At the same time, I  recalled back to when people would  sign their name  or  make their "mark" on  documents and I  wondered..

Revelation 9:4-5........"And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads........And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man."

They (those who do not have the Seal of God in their foreheads) should be tormented for a five month period of time. This is the period of time that........"And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them." (Revelation 9:6).

I see no evidence that this five month period of time is the shortening of the days Christ was speaking about in (Matthew 24:22)........"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

I know Arnold Murray and his son taught this. They taught the five month period of time would be the full length of the tribulation or there would be no flesh saved. I just do not believe this is the correct view.


      

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Miracles are the EVIDENCE of the kingdom within.  Not the goal, or even a required 'proof'.
They are just a 'natural consequence of the Presence of the Holy Spirit of God indwelling a believer, rather than the spirit of the world, in which we are all born into and thoroughly indoctrinated in.

As I've said before, being conformed and transformed to the Image and Likeness of Christ is the EASIEST-HARDEST instruction Jesus gave us.

Yet, with all things pertaining to God, it's not something we can do on our own. 
Apart from Him, we can do nothing.  

It is a WORK HE does in us.   Our job is to 'Seek Him with all our heart, mind and soul," understanding full well that HE ALONE IS GOD, not us!  And we SURRENDER our will to HIS, our Life to Him.
And that unless He does the thing, we labor in vain. 

That moment of commitment to "not my will, Lord, but Your Will be done, requires MUCH FAITH!
Yet the Bible is full of encouragement to bring us along, to strengthen our faith.

I don't know.  Idols, other gods, statues, etc...have zero place in anything I've written of, ever.  do you think God would allow that?
I can assure you, HE does not!
And I've never seen any indication that anyone on this forum ever has either.
The Kingdom of God and the fallen world of the flesh do not mix!!
So says the Word.  From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f64f 
The whole point of the Cross and forgiveness of sin was SO THAT all who accepted the Sacrifice GOD (not man) provided could enter in to the Kingdom and "Come Boldly Before the Throne of God', could return to the Presence of God, Spirit to Spirit.

Yet, Spirit Reigns!  Whether it's the spirit of the world-satan, or the Spirit of God,
and ALL THINGS, all the issues of life,  FLOW FROM THERE.  From our 'inward parts', the Bible calls it.
And of course the Spirit of God living in and through us changes things.
And we can call that a miracle. It surely is a gift. 

But I don't want to frustrate you, and can always write about this elsewhere.  From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f60a


           
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In no way, shape or form am I fully baked.  Laughing

I'm much too human much too often. I imagine no one here spends as much time examining 'the world' as I do, reading and posting as I do.
But as I've said, 7 years ago when I was going to leave the forum and return to  learning of-experiencing more of the Kingdom, God said, 'No.  Do this.'  And put a Q post in front of me.

And so I did.  15 hrs a day, every day.  I've slowed down some out of necessity.
But even if it means keeling over during the day and getting up in the middle of the night, I do it.
Why?  Because He said to.  

It can take me days to come back to a semblance of 'the rest that is in Him'. Still if I ask Him for understanding of the Word, scripture comes.   Then the hard part is hanging onto it well enough
to write it out. When I'm typing here I'm in a worldly mode.  And so, it's a fluctuating thing.

I wasn't planning on gardening.  It was set up here and then left to me to tend to. I was excited about doing it, but gardening's a lot of work.  From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f604  So it was good for awhile, until it wasn't. 
Over and over I'd remember something a minister had said when her garden went 'south'.
She asked God why the bugs wrecked her garden, and God said to her "I didn't tell you to garden."
Lesson:  the blessings come when God's will is obeyed !

Why does He have me doing this?  He has His reasons, but hasn't exactly shared
them with me.  I have an idea.  Rarely in my experience do I get an explanation
for a 'designated purpose'.  And why should He explain Himself to me, anyway.
What if I didn't agree that it was such a great idea?
Far better I think that I not be tempted like that.  He's God.  I'm not.

When I first started my search for healing, I thought I needed to learn how to
be the Healer.  Wrong.  But oh what I learned as I came to understanding.


           
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I don't know.  Idols, other gods, statues, etc...have zero place in anything I've written of, ever.  do you think God would allow that?
I can assure you, HE does not!
And I've never seen any indication that anyone on this forum ever has either.

I hope Dove you didn't take my friends post as directed to you. It has nothing to do with you at all, or anyone that takes part at this forum. 

It was a group discussion with several people and I thought he lay out some interesting things. Some of the others as well as myself gave him two thumbs up for his post. 

There have been times in the past I have brought a few things and put them here in my threads if they didn't mind. This thread as well as the whole forum need some different input. It's a good thing to share others ideas, beliefs, and thinking. It helps in giving me something to post about.

The friends and I enjoy discussing scripture........"That is a very good thing." Do we always agree on every little detail?........"No we don't." There are many things we do agree on, but even when we do not........"We respect each other." 

I can't count how many times all of us have learned much from each other. Many things that we once held tight to, we no longer take the same view. Through research and deeper studies we have changed our beliefs on certain things.

The core faith and belief never changes for us, but the outer crust is a different story.

Most of the time it's the outer crust that divides people, causing huge problems and anger arising. We try to not let the outer crust destroy our respect and friendships.


      

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I'm good.   From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f60a  It did cross my mind that this may not be the first time that I spoke of the Spirit
and then you posted about idols.. From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f603 I hope you don't see any correlation. But I didn't try to check it out.  From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f604 
We all gravitate to what we find edifying, and speak from there. 
All to the Glory of the Father of us all.


           
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I'm good.   From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f60a  It did cross my mind that this may not be the first time that I spoke of the Spirit
and then you posted about idols.. From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f603 I hope you don't see any correlation. But I didn't try to check it out.  From Beginning Until The End Of Days-----> - Page 11 1f604 
We all gravitate to what we find edifying, and speak from there. 
All to the Glory of the Father of us all.

That was a post of Steve's (A friend). He was trying to get across how many in scripture followed false gods by attaching themselves to idols. No matter how much The LORD God even used miracles many turned a deaf ear and bind eye. Many times they experienced miracles by God and had faith for a short season, but they turned to false gods by attaching themselves to idols.

As Steve wrote........Even if God performs miracles, that will never satisfy everyone.


      

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I watched the full video yesterday and thought it was very good. I always enjoy Tim's work, it gets me wondering about so many ideas he brings up. We don't always agree, but most of the time we do. To be honest I don't need to always agree, there is nobody that has a complete perfect blueprint......"Only The LORD God is perfection." A lot of what Tim mentions is that it's what he is thinking on the subject. None of us should ever think we have it all figured out......"Because we don't." But that should never keep us from searching things out. It's about getting us in The Word and keeping us in The Word.

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Below is something a friend (Rick) wrote that I will post. Rick does not sugar coat what he thinks in our discussions. He certainly says exactly what's on his mind.

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Rick wrote:

The time is near. Little time is left. The next generation must be prepared. We must face our hypocrisy. The kids need it.

Disclosure knocks on their door and they have no idea what is coming. And virtually all contemporary prophetic teaching is WAY off base!

So far it is from the reality of scripture, that the world is laughing at the silliness of Christian thinking.

Are the scriptures to be blamed? Or is it stickin thinkin?

The "Great Deception" was seeded within the church. That's why the majority walked away. And it will continue, until they are moved to be done with us, once and for all.

And can you blame them?
(The prophetic words of Christ unto that Church) "I will spew you out of my mouth."
I guess not. He thought the same.

They have not walked away from the sound of their Creator's Voice. They have walked away from the sound of the Church's voice.

It's Wake-Up Time!

And when we see 'the abomination that causes desolation', the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem will be killed soon after. Three days later, they will arise from the dead and then be taken up to heaven.

At that time (prophecy foretells) there will be two predominate groups of believers on earth;

1) Those who recognize the act of 'the abomination that causes desolation', and heed the instructions of 'Jesus' above, to flee.

2) Those who have been taught that they will not see it, and therefore they will not recognize it, nor follow after 'Jesus' warnings & instructions.

The ones in Group 1 will be (part of) those who will be taken to a wilderness and protected from persecution, for a time, two times and a half.

The ones in Group 2 (the greater portion thereof) will be persecuted by the "world system'. And will ultimately make up the martyred group referred to in Revelations as; "a great multitude, which no man could number > which came out of great tribulation, > had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands."

Neither group will suffer the "wrath of God". But Group 2 will suffer the wrath of a False God whose time is short.


      

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I always find this interesting. Group 1  being protected in the wilderness especially.    I need to study on this and get in my head the difference between this and the rapture talk.

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I always find this interesting. Group 1  being protected in the wilderness especially.    I need to study on this and get in my head the difference between this and the rapture talk.

What are your thoughts on the rapture?

The three main convictions concerning the timing of the rapture are Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib and Post-Trib. There is also the Pre-Wrath.

The whole rapture topic can be a sore spot in discussions. Other forums I was a part of for several years the rapture was the most heated. I got to the point where I would tell others my views on the rapture if someone ask me directly my thoughts, or I would direct them to where I had posted about it before.

For me I just saw a bunch of mud slinging that I decided to stay out of. I get nothing out of it.


      

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"WHEN" doesn't work very well, does it.  Wink It doesn't work for me, anyway.  But:

'Be ready always', works yesterday, today and forever.

I suppose the profitable question is 'what does it mean to be ready'?
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I looked for the Jack Hibbs 'special' I mentioned and couldn't find it.
It was about the Rapture and the wedding ceremony of the Bride and Bridegroom.
It was a very simple, traditional presentation that he produced along with JD Farag
and Amir Tsarfati.   All three are pre-trib rapture believers.


           
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'Be ready always', works yesterday, today and forever.

I agree Dove. 

We are to always be watching, staying awake, and holding tight to faith. The dark forces will do everything they can to get us to lose our faith in The LORD God. Don't let the world and the things of the world pull us away.


      

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I agree to always be ready.  Always.  I would like to believe that we will be "taken in the air" by our Savior Jesus but  I  know the false one will try to deceive many  so am studying  on that. I tend to lean to the second coming as to when He puts His feet on the earth . and not counted  as the second, is the "in the clouds- the rapture-" to get His believers. 
   It's a lot to take in and so many views. The Murrays didn't believe in it and they studied in different languages..  I'll find Jack Hibbs study on it. I did hear him say that at one time he was not a rapture believer but  changed his mind and is pro rapture now.   Main thing is don't be deceived by the false one and be ready for our Lord Jesus. He will save us from the end wrath.  Just be ready and call on Him our Lord Jesus to guide us and show us these things.  Thank ya'll very much for  this.

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1 Thessalonians 5:
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
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14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.


15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.


16 Rejoice evermore.


17 Pray without ceasing.


18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.


19 Quench not the Spirit.


20 Despise not prophesyings.


21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.


22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.


23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
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I agree to always be ready.  Always.  I would like to believe that we will be "taken in the air" by our Savior Jesus but  I  know the false one will try to deceive many  so am studying  on that. I tend to lean to the second coming as to when He puts His feet on the earth . and not counted  as the second, is the "in the clouds- the rapture-" to get His believers. 
   It's a lot to take in and so many views. The Murrays didn't believe in it and they studied in different languages..  I'll find Jack Hibbs study on it. I did hear him say that at one time he was not a rapture believer but  changed his mind and is pro rapture now.   Main thing is don't be deceived by the false one and be ready for our Lord Jesus. He will save us from the end wrath.  Just be ready and call on Him our Lord Jesus to guide us and show us these things.  Thank ya'll very much for  this.

When Jesus Christ comes back to Earth, we will go out to meet him........"Always remember the 10 Virgins parable (Five of them were wise, and five were foolish).

The five wise had oil in their vessels as well as in their lamps and went out to meet The Bridegroom (The Lord Jesus Christ).) They were prepared for the journey, no matter the length of time. The five foolish had no oil in their vessels, they had oil in their lamps but it had all burned out. They were not prepared for the length of time the journey would take.

As it reads in Matthew 25:5........While the bridegroom tarried.

tarried means......"Delayed"

We do not no the exact day or hour the bridegroom will come.

There will come a day when as Revelation 10:6 says....."There would be no more delay."  We must always be prepared for the day and hour Jesus Christ does come......"Be ready" Don't give up!

Luke 21:25-28........“There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars… At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

Luke 21:34........ “Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap." 

that day.....What day is “that day”? ........The Day of The Lord.

Luke 21:36........"But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man."

Jesus just gave us cosmic signs that Joel 2:31 says will happen just before the Day of the Lord, but immediately after the tribulation according to His own words in Matthew 24:29.

Joel 2:31........ “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.”

Matthew 24:29........ “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.”

Therefore, “that day” that Jesus is referring to in Luke 21:34 is the Day of the Lord. It is the day of Jesus Christ’s judgment, of His Divine Wrath that we as believers are not appointed to suffer.


      

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