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Mike - exactly why I don't attend any church except the one on this forum. Y'all crazies ARE my church. I'll bet dollars to donuts everyone here has gone though much the same experience that your cousin did. Get with her and show her a few "milk" things and answer her questions. Tell her she's welcome here on this crazy forum whenever she's ready to chew some tough gristly meat.


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fantastic listen:....i can just imagine my cousins sunday school class with this.....don't worry about the early audio....he will turn the mic on after about a minute....all of his youtubes are like this

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It is sad that many don't care enough to just read for themselves. None of us are suppose to stay babies. We are to move forward and begin to eat meat.

I was listening to a preacher yesterday who was suppose to be teaching The Book of Revelation and he never really got anywhere. I kept saying to myself......"Lets go,lets go!" He was trying to teach while being stuck in mud......"If you know what I'm talking about."


      

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I can't and never will rule out the possibility that God is an ETERNAL creator. Just because he created man doesn't mean it will end with man. 

God very well may have had other creations after the Angels, before man other than beast,fowl,creeping things or life in the sea. Only God can give the answer to this question. As I stated before I believe IF we are being visited by Aliens most that are visiting us are what I believe are creatures OFF CREATION. I believe most were not a creation of God, but OFF his creation. 

I believe one day God will give a rebirth or a new creation to all the heavens and the earth. As far as the eye can see everything is in a form of deterioration and or death. Once sin came into the picture all became temporary, it was not only a cancer for man but also every creature,plant,animal,ocean life,the whole earth,sun,moon,every planet,all the stars,and everything in the visible. All things which are not seen they are eternal, they are of the invisible spiritual realm.

2 Corinthians 4:18

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen [are] temporal; but the things which are not seen [are] eternal.
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I was thinking earlier how (from naive to silly to dumb) a positive attitude about all things can seem.
Take healing for instance, as the principles can be applied anywhere once grasped.

Clearly, when someone is sick, has a diagnosis of disease, proclaiming healing and health makes no sense, even to the patient. 
Even as 'life and death' is in the power of the tongue, saying 'I AM healed, in Jesus' Name' can be void of power.  It isn't until we adjust our 'sight', from the circumstances of the world-which most certainly do have A 'reality', and put our sights on the Unseen, eternal, ever-present Kingdom; and on Jesus Himself, that we can escape the arguments and protestations of the mind conditioned to the world.

Of course by definition, eternity is not something we must wait for. It already always 'is'.  And the veil of separation has been torn down.  But it's still up to us to 'COME' before Him with our prayers, and supplications.
There are steps:
Seek, Find, Ask, Wait in Faith. 

I will swear with everything in me that God is Good, a rewarder of thos who Seek Him.  And that He has made us-the SET APART FROM THE WORLD BY THE PRESENCE OF HIS SPIRIT WITH US-made us many Promises, as much in the OT as the New, that are ours to possess NOW, through Right Relationship with Him.

If this isn't what you were thinking at all, then your thoughts were a spring board for me. Very Happy thanks


           
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dove, with a conservative,calvinistic background, i was taught that the gifts had ceased after the apostolic age, and seemingly the bible does say that....but i have seen two men healed of lung cancer, one was annointed with oil and the other was prayed for by a whole bunch of folks....paul did give instructions to gather the elders and annoint with oil, so there is a basis....now, most would say misdiagnosis, nope, both had biopsies and one was a friend of mine.....this is an area that i stay clear of because i know little about it
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Those testimonies are wonderful.  Oil was integral for me too.  My conviction comes from my own experience, too. Very Happy  You know the verse, hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life.” 

I think 'doubt not' is paramount, and a long wait breeds doubt.

Once again we must yield our minds to the Mind of Christ.  There is NO DOUBT to be found in Him.


           
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You'll have to show me where the Bible says the gifts, miracles, etc. have ceased.  I've never read anything that made me think that.


           
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i corinthians 13

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there beknowledge, it shall vanish away.
9For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of 
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I need time to study that chapter, and don't have it at the moment.  I def. will be back about it. Wink


           
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Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there beknowledge, it shall vanish away.
9For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.



12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
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I'm back for a minute.  This says prophecies fail, tongues shall cease, foreknowledge shall vanish (I take that to be visions)



Operative question-WHEN does this happen?


When that which is perfect is come,  that's Jesus.  When we see Him face to face.

And of course that hasn't happened yet.  We still operate without full and complete understanding.  But we operate with the knowledge and understanding we have-although not in the full measure of Him till He Comes.


           
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I would like to add  this  for any doubters.This is somewhat off subject but felt I should add ...  I've had several close calls in my life and in the mist of them  had called out to Him. He answered and that's why I'm here now. 
 The one that really strikes me with a lump in my throat, happened when I was between 4 and 6 years old.. My cousin Sue  ( a christian teenager then and an old one now)  had come along on our little vacation where we stayed at a little motel with a pool . Later on, I remember being on the bottom of the pool, just sitting/sinking down and the water all around, unable to breathe. Everything became very bright and then.. the next thing I knew my cousin was holding me by the ankles and shaking me up and down as water came out. I don't believe in coincidences .. but I do believe in our Savior  and will not be swayed by the society we live in.. but the evil ones are sure trying to bend me.. anyone else noticed evil  trying to disrupt their lives more so lately?
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Hebrews 13:8 

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

What is the point in praying for healing if it's dead and buried with his apostles? We believers and followers of Jesus Christ are disciples of Christ. Several verses of scripture tell us to pray for ourselves as well as others for healing. 

Jesus Christ while he was here on earth healed the sick......."But did he heal all those who were sick?"........Certainly not. Jesus Christ didn't even heal all those who were right in his sight.
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True, but there are a couple verses that say "And He healed them all."

One thing I've thought significant is he instructed the boys to go in two's.  Paul said we have a measure of the Holy Spirit.  Jesus had the "Fullness" of the Spirit.  This is the purpose of going in 'two's', I believe.
"Whenever two or more of you are gathered in My Name..."


           
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Bordercollie, I was going to say yes, but really in comparison to other times my stuff is just aggravating.
Not knowing what's going on with you, you could pull back-with purpose-arm yourself with scripture,
and SPEAK IT to confront what's coming against you.  REJECT IT, DENY IT ANY RIGHTS, in Jesus' Name.
Mount a real and purposeful offense.  I see God smiling on you, and backing you up, as you go for it! 
And feel free to dispatch angels to aid you.  I love you  REFUSE TO LOSE!   Wink


           
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Thank you Dove! I've cast  the evil one behind me in Jesus name  a couple of times today. It's mind games mainly that I'm fighting..anger management, loosing concentration on what we study , weird dreams .. etc   (I feel much stronger today though and feel I have a  grip on it     ).  Your words are  certainly appreciated .   I will not lose. Smile     judy
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good video and may have already een posted....my bad if so, mistake due to bad CPU located between my ears
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There's that Apkallu thing popping up again. Seems kinda important to have a basic understanding of the subject. Heiser starts talking about this at 2 minutes into the video Mike posted above. Thought I'd point that out since earlier in this topic we were discussing the Apkallu. Now back to watching the video to see where Heiser is going with this.


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not a fan of rood but he ain't in this one...pretty good listen

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Isaiah 34:4

And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.



Hebrew word and meaning: 

[Fall], nabel, H5034. To fall away, dishonor, to fade away



The above verse from Isaiah has much to offer if one looks closely. I believe the host of heaven speaks of not only heavenly bodies as planets,moons and star systems but also the Angelic creations. I see "Their host shall fall down" as an army of Fallen Angels (Messengers) and are once again described as falling figs. 

These figs are untimely figs that never blossomed but shriveled and fell. These figs will decay in dishonor because they rebelled and are at war with God. There will be a great war in the Heavens and these figs (Messengers) will be defeated and they will drop off the fig tree. If they had not rebelled they would have remained on the fig tree and matured as a fully ripe fig. But this is not the case and these figs will never mature but will drop off in dishonor.
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"Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Eph 5:8-11

The above verses remind me of the rotten apple in a basket full of good apples. Every good apple that comes in contact with the rotten apple will soon be stained and rot. All the apples in the basket are in fact touching one another and will soon be destroyed by the beginning works of "One Bad Apple". The rotten apple must be exposed by the light in order to see it's true nature and remove it from the good apples. If the rotten apple remains hidden in darkness among the good apples they all will find corruption.

Some try to please everyone and that's not me. I stand firm in my beliefs and don't believe in only a feel good message. We can't satisfy everyone,if we try we lose the truth.  We are to pull back the curtain from the cloak of darkness into the light and the light will expose them. If we  only set back and do nothing then we are a very poor fruit.
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every day i look forward to seeing what you wrote

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
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since i am listening rather than reading for a while, i run across much more good stuff than normal....tim alberino always brings it home!!!!....i love listening to this guy because he saw things that most ignorant Christians do not even believe can happen.....this is 3 hours and worth every second:
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I'm sorry guys I don't have more time to read,listen and watch most of the material that everyone puts on the forum. I just stay so busy it eats up most of my time. 

Thanks for everyone taking part in this thread as well as the whole forum.
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This is a question my Grandfather ask me a few years before he died at age 99.


This has nothing to do with my faith,but was a question my Grandfather ask me many years ago and it has stuck with me through time. He and I used to get into some deep conversations and one day he ask me this very question below. He told me I had to answer it before I left......"It was around an hour I had to think and answer his question." NO! ducking around it,it was one answer or the other.

His question..........If you had a choice right this moment in time and had to choose one answer or the other which would you choose...... To die and there be......"Nothing",and when I say nothing I mean nothing?........... 
Or would you make the choice to die and be reborn over and over for ever and ever

If you choose to die and be reborn you will live and die as (every Human) who has ever lived. You will be every male and every female human....."No animals or creatures of any kind,only human. You will know every pleasure as well as every horror. You will live and die every death of infants,children,teens,adults and the very old.

One day you will live the life of your mother,father,sister,brother,children........Everybody!!!  Everyone who has ever and will ever live and die a life.

I will tell you it took me a long time before I gave him an answer. I ask him many questions and then thought about it before I told him I would choose to die and there be nothing. Really if you come right down to it I wouldn't know how I would answer it until I was faced with it. I can say a lot of things when I'm not facing the sceanrio,but who knows what I might choose when it is at the door.

When my Grandfather ask me this question,my first thought was would it be better to be conscience of something,feel something as nothing at all.

I ask my Grandfather if I would be able to remember anything from my past lives and he said no. 

I then got to thinking about [all humans] and the lives and deaths of each of them. That is in my opinion impossible for the mind to comprehend. Every single person that has and will live and die. Whether the life is no more than a twinkling of an eye or you live hundreds of years........You would live them all.

I would experience all the greatness,friendship and love that has dwelt in the hearts.
 
I got to thinking how I would live the lives of all the famous people down through history. But 99.99% of lives would be the names that are never remembered and have no fame attached to them. Every possible way of death I would partake of. I not only would be on the receiving end, but also be the one to administer it through countless lives. 

The thing is there would never be a way to change anything. Your next life and death would only be a random thing. It's all set in stone and every choice that has been made will be made......"Over and Over" through all eternity." You will live and die every life and it will be as it was. 

What comes around,goes around....."Around and around inside a circle for ever and ever." You would be inside a circle and there would never be any way to penetrate and move outside the circle. Trapped like a rat inside a maze with no exit.

One day you would live my life just as I've lived it......."Nothing can be changed from exactly how I've lived it." I would live yours just as you have until death. I would live all goodness but also all evil. Die every death every human has ever died. All the love as well as all hate.
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that some damn deep thinking there on your part and your grandpa set you up with something that you have never forgotten....

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I'm sure glad that was purely an existential question. 
Your grandfather read  Dostoevsky?  


           
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I think my Grandfather was trying to first and foremost get me thinking of an eternal life of "The Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil".

There's a lot of difference between "Knowing" of good and evil and "Living" an eternal life of good and evil.

Think about (Paradise,Eden) if just one sinful being was allowed to enter and remain. How long would it take before that one bad apple would cause corruption to rot all the other apples? I believe Paradise would be lost within a short season. 

All we need to do is read of Satan's Little Season in The Book of Revelation and see how quickly things can change when sin is in the mix. One Thousand years of Jesus Christ Kingdom here on earth with Satan chained in the bottless pit and as soon as he is released for "A Little Season" after the one thousand years are fulfilled it doesn't take long to deceive the nations of the earth. As Revelation 20:7-8 reads......"And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,....."And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
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I'm certainly not disputing your grandfather's intent.  I wasn't there for the conversation.  Smile

But what you've described is, to me, a total lack of self-will.  A fully pre-determined existence, devoid
of expression, creativity, aspirations, growth.  

When did such a condition ever exist?  Are you feeling this was the condition in the Garden before the Fall?  (and therefore a picture of Life in obedience to God)?


           
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Dove......I have no idea how you could have gotten that out of what I wrote. It was just a deep question to get me thinking in many directions. We would discuss The Bible all the time and yes he was a believer and follower of Jesus Christ. He was interrested in getting to know who I really was,and how I would react.Some people are afraid to let their door open and see the real, because of others reactions to their answers. With my Grandfather I had that kind of relationship and I do miss it.
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It sounds like the choices put before a demon. They (only) live vicariously through others who allow them in or else they reside in outer darkness.
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Sorry ScaRz.  You know, I hope, I mean no offense.  Let me blame it on my glasses, and say that CLEARLY I am not seeing clearly.   thanks


           
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your grandpa was a very intelligent man, wasn't he?.....it was obvious to me why he asked that....i would have loved to have met him
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Michael..... your study on the Urim and Tumim got me thinking about the king of Tyrus in Ezekiel 28. On the anointed cherub was a covering of nine of the stones not twelve as the high priest wore on the Urim and Tumim breastplate.

Ezekiel 28:12-14

Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.



Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.



Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
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hey,lol, every video that i watch about the urim and thummim do a lot of talking and never say anything much at all about them.....no facts other than what scripture says, which all we know about it them....there has to be a clue in there and what you noticed may be one...who knows?
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On the subject of the urim and thummin here is something from Michael Heiser. As Michael says "Nobody really knows."

http://www.nakedbiblepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Transcript-72-Leviticus-8-9.pdf
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Stones of Fire | Ezekiel 28........Michael Heiser


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9vx2wTLclc



https://www.nakedbiblepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Transcript-92-Stones-of-Fire.pdf


Ezekiel 28:14, 16 describe an “anointed cherub” who walked in the midst of “the stones of fire” and was removed from among “the stones of fire.” What are the stones of fire? What do these verses describe? How do the phrases relate to what’s going on in Ezekiel 28 and its “twin,” Isaiah 14?
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The Gospel of Luke Chapter 4 is one of my favorites. I believe it paints a huge picture of things in the past as well as things to come. I will begin when Jesus after his temptation from Satan comes to Nazareth, is handed the book of Esaias (Isaiah) in the synagogue and begins reading.

Luke 4:16-19

And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.


And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,


The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,


To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.



Jesus ends it right here reading from Isaiah with........"To preach the acceptable year of the Lord." Now if we go to Chapter 61 of Isaiah where Jesus was reading from it doesn't just end. First lets read verses 20-21 of Luke Chapter 4 to see that Jesus ends it and closes the book,and tells them this prophecy was fulfilled that very day.


Luke 4:20-21

And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.


And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.




Now I will go to Isaiah Chapter 61.


Isaiah 61:1-2

The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;


To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;


Now we can see why Jesus ended it with......."To preach the acceptable year of the Lord."


This is what is called a gap in the fulfillment of prophecy. Jesus fulfilled part of the prophecy in that day but we see in Isaiah that what follows with the prophecy......."and the day of vengeance of our God".......will be fulfilled as The Day of The Lord by Jesus Christ at his second coming.



Now I will return to Luke Chapter 4.



Luke 4:24......."And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country."


I believe Jesus is telling them that his own people will reject him. Another great verse of scripture that lays this out is in John.



John 1:11......."He came unto his own, and his own received him not.".


Luke 4:25......."But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;


I believe that verse 25 lets us all know how long he would remain on this earth....." three years and six months"..... before he ascended to heaven. His own would reject him and they would be deaf to Hearing the Word.

Jesus went on to say in Luke 4:25...."when great famine was throughout all the land." I believe Jesus is talking about much more than a famine for food. Jesus is telling them about a spiritual hunger,a true hunger for The Word of God, and him being the bread of life. Jesus knew he would be rejected for his three and one half years of his ministry but after his fulfillment of doing the will of The Father he would ascend into heaven and then would come Elijah's (Elias) rain, the pouring out of the Holy Spirit.

I see this type of famine of not "Hearing" the words of The Lord as that which was spoken of in Amos.


Amos 8:11......."Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:"



In the below verse from John Chapter 5 I believe Jesus is letting us know that he will be rejected in his own country. The people will not hear the words of The Lord,but the one known as the Antichrist when he comes,they will receive his words.


John 5:43......."I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive."





There will be two comings in our future.

He who comes first will be The Lie. He who comes second will be The Truth.

The Lie will ascend out of the bottomless pit (Abyss) when it is opened. The Truth will come as heaven is opened.

Revelation 17:8......."The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."

Revelation 19:11......."And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war."
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hey scarz, since you posted about liking derek gilbert,or was it sananoy?, i decided to revisit some of his stuff, and then,again, by "coincidence" bordercollie sent a truck load of discs along with a bunch of skywatch magazines.....derek gilbert is the real deal.....i have been reading his stuff in those magazines and man that guy has done the do on research!!! i used to listen to him and his wife on revelation radio, way long ago, but he spent time with his nose to the grindstone since then...listening to him now and have him on an all night playlist
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I have listened to some of Derek Gilbert's material but it has been awhile.


      

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John 10:1........"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber."


I have wondered for several years now if "Some" humans will ever get to that point of getting back what was taken and bypassing Jesus Christ (The Door) and climbing up another way.

Is it possible that some day,or is it already a reality that biotechnology with the assistance of nano-technology will bring about a change to our genetics to enable immortal life?
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I think they are trying to change dna to that effect  now. I have no proof but different things I've read. 
 I almost laugh at the folks eagerly sending in their dna to have it tested by those ancestry places.. upps.. I meant screened.. no I mean .....  stored  or  ... used..
   Living in farm country (for now) as the subdivisions approach, I get frowned on when I  speak negatively of gmo crops too.. Where's the best place to start this altering? the bottom..  
  I know the Bible warns many times of not sowing mingled seed and such. I think that "straw" , when people's genetics are mingled and changed, will bring God's wrath. Yes, I believe there are some people trying to do it now. I've read things about some of the infamous wealthy getting near the end of their natural lives willing to do anything to continue on. All hearsay but I do consider it happening. 
  As for  me.. no , I'm not interested in being here any longer than necessary because there is a much better place even than where I am now , which is a pretty great life in the country and speaking with Him and seeing His wonders every day.. .There is a hugely better place in Heaven with our Savior who died and rose so we could live.  I belong to our Lord Jesus and eagerly wait to leave this world behind and be in Heaven with Him where all tears are wiped away and there will be  no sadness. I  work every day toward keeping the evil one out of my head thereby  keeping my faith in  our Savior Jesus Christ. I will win because I Believe.    judy
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"men will seek death and not find it" revelation 9:6....it sure looks like it....they are trying like hell right now
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Are Physical Structures In The Brain Responsible For Our Level Of Intuition?



Is The Caudate-Putamen An Antenna For Anomalous Information?


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The study involved, among others, a group of individuals termed these days as “Experiencers:” individuals experiencing Anomalous Mental Phenomena perceived through the senses including hallucinations, seeing beings and orbs, or hearing messages. One potential goal of the study involved identifying personality commonalities and, maybe, if “experiences” followed families—implying there might be a component that genetics plays in the experience process itself. Nolan and Green insisted that the study was not about determining the factual nature of the experience, just to determine if there were medical or familial relationships. There was also a Phenomenon Radio program hosted by Linda Milton Howe and John Burroughs which featured an interview with Annie Jacobsen discussing this very topic.
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I believe there will be ten main power block regions,each having a ruler (King) over them but One Ruler (King,The Antichrist) seated above all of them. He will once again be a counterfeit king of kings to the True King Of Kings.....The Lord Jesus Christ. I have a strong feeling these ten kings will be something more than flesh and blood humans.


Revelation 17:12....."And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast."


I believe one huge goal is to destroy human genetics. Many will no longer be pure human flesh and blood, but will in fact be a creation OFF OF CREATION.......A Hybrid.  I believe this is the meaning behind Christ words in Matthew 24:22........"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
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Club of rome already divided the world up in 10 ecconomic regions....reading some very interesting stuff that judy sent....i think you may be right...its seems to have always been about destroying the image of God...."they will build an image"
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Revelation 20 is one great chapter and has much to offer. The Little Season of Satan has been a subject that has fascinated me from the first time I read Chapter 20.

The line that jumps out at me every time I read Chapter 20 is Revelation 20:5......"But the rest of the dead [lived not again] until the thousand years were finished."

All those at Christ return, both those who had died in Christ and those believers who remained alive until his coming were resurrected or changed as part of the first resurrection. Then begins the One Thousand year period that Satan will be imprisoned in the Abyss (Bottomless Pit) and Christ Kingdom of peace. 

The remainder of all the dead will not [Live Again] until the One Thousand year period is complete. If we take the line in verse 20:5 as just what it says the rest of the dead will live again after the One Thousand year time frame is fulfilled and Satan is loosed from his prison (The Abyss). 

Will the [Rest of the dead] take part in the Little Season of Satan?

Most will never go down this road and only think the [Rest of the dead] will be resurrected after the Little Season of Satan is fully concluded and the White Throne Judgment is about to take place. 

Every time I read and study Revelation 20 I can't help but see the words......"But the rest of the dead [lived not again] until the thousand years were finished." The words never said after the Little Season is finished,but after the One Thousand years were finished.

How long in our known time frame will a Little Season be?........How much time in our time frame of today will Satan have to [deceive] once again?.........Again it appears we are not told. If it's somewhere in scripture I've not found it as of this post.

There are only two times in scripture where the words "Little Season" are used and here they are below. If we remember a thousand years are as a day to The Lord......"That's just one day." So the Little Season could last much longer in human terms than most seem to think. Satan must take a good length of our time frame in order to deceive the nations of the world once again after the one thousand years of peace. Some seem to think it's just bang and it's all over......."I just can't see it happening that quickly."


Revelation 6:11

And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a [little season], until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Revelation 20:3

And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a [little season].
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