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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 am
Tribulation has been around for a very long time. Everyone of us were born into tribulation and have never lived on this earth without tribulation being in the mix.
John 16:33, “These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”
Acts 14:22, “Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.”
Rom 5:3, “And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience”
Rom 8:35, “Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?”
Rom 12:12, “Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer”
2 Cor 1:4, “Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble…”
2 Cor 7:4, “Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.”
1 Thess 3:4, “For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.”
I see 3.5 prophetic years of “Great Tribulation” that will be unprecedented.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:55 am
Endure........(to continue in the same state, to remain firm, don't give in)
They maintain the faith, they keep believing, they keep it no matter what storms may come.........."They endure."
2 Timothy 2:10-12
Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
The saying is trustworthy, for:
If we have died with him, we will also live with him; if we endure, we will also reign with him; if we deny him, he also will deny us;
Matthew 24:13........"But the one who endures to the end will be saved."
Mark 13:13........"And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved."
We are not required to know everything and every single detail. We are only required to believe, have faith, and continue to endure.
Hebrews 3:12-14
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:51 pm
The legend of Val Valiant Thor.
If by chance you have never heard of Val, take time to watch this short video. The thing I remember most about this legend is......."The bright and morning star, and the mention of The Bible."
Revelation 2:26-28
The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations,
and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.
And I will give him the morning star.
Revelation 22:16........“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
Isaiah 14:12........“How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:37 am
Ohhhh boyyyy, I watched the video and I am convinced that its a made up story. There are just too many red flags to this guys narrative. I am always skeptical when there is a book written and high level security people are involved. I do not believe in ET's from another solar system. I DO believe in ET's from another dimension, though and I am 100% convinced that they do walk among us. The "take me to your leader" stuff in this was just too telling, along with the "i'm from Venus" part. Any teenager with a formidable power Walmart telescope can see that Venus does not have an atmosphere that is suitable for life. Now, the theme of of all of this, I can buy, along with the so-called "Vals" story. I did some more listening to stories along this line last night and searched out legitimate articles along this line. There are lots of corroborating info to this story, I admit, but its just too suspicious and smells of a psych-op.
I spent a lot of time listening to Phil Schneider years ago. His story is just not believable and I say that as a old guy that has a wide open mind on most subjects. If there is a dimensional narrative to the story rather than a planetary one then it does get my attention enough to at least check it out to separate the butter from the bullshit. Now, I kinda' do think there is something to the Eisenhower meeting. Okay, consider me a skeptic but also realize my position. I believe the bible, every jot and tittle, so I also believe Genesis 6 is true concerning the Watchers and earth women. If one would just change to narrative to that or similar events happening again, carried out by dimensional entities then you have my full attention. If you change the story to a false flag where evil entities from another realm want to fool humans into thinking they are from a far off planet, such a planet in Orions belt, we can talk a long time because that is precisely what I think has been going on.
In the near future, it might be best to not believe our "lying eyes' when it comes to the strange and unexpected. Right now, I don't believe a damn thing that I hear or read unless its from a person who has an unimpeachable reputation and there are still some around.
Scarz, like researcher, I grew up on this subject. I read any and everything I could on space, UFO's, etc. I had my own telescope and was alive when the UFO craze hit, swamp gas and all. It was during that time that I became interested in a guy by the name of Dr. J Allen Hynek, the father of "swamp gas" and who helped quiet the concern of a nation with his "theory." Hynek later became the leading UFO researcher in the world after he changed from being a skeptic into a believer of something was going on. Jacques Valee was another one. A very smart, intellectual man who ended up with the same conclusion as I did and that UFO's and aliens are spiritual in nature.
I used to listen to Art Bell every show. I listened in the daytime on the recordings that were made from the night before. Bob Lazar? I actually believe his story because of an old phone book that surfaced showing his name listed after all records of him had been scrubbed. Lt Colonel Phillip Corso? I have his book and read it more than once and give it a lot of credibility, although he does much self- aggrandizing in his story. I keep all UFO stuff within the framework of scripture, Genesis(+ Enoch/Jasher/Jubilees) and these stories do fit. Here are a couple of good reads on men who damn sure are not nut cases concerning Ufo's and aliens:
There is always room for things like this to be a psych-op, but there are also some very suspicious circumstances,too. A whole bunch of things in stories check out as truth. Here is a man that that took a position that cost him a great career and he never backed down. Is David Jacobs credible or is he part of a false flag psych-op? I have his books and I do believe him to be an honest man. His position is that aliens are spiritual creatures that are not out to help mankind. I was going to post a https://www.inquisitr.com/3414798/ufo-researcher-top-secret-alien-plan-to-take-over-earth-nears-completion-as-alien-human-hybrids-infiltrate-and-integrate-into-human-society-video/n article from the Philadelphia Inquirer but you had to turn off your ad blocker and give your computer popup aids, so here is another article about Dr. David Jacobs:
Its supposed to rain today so I just might watch more videos on Ufo's. Scarz, its not that I don't think that there are other forms of life, I do. The bible is clear on that. It is their place of origin. I have actually seen 2 ufo's, one later was revealed to be a lighter than air,radar-proof troop carrier. The other, I saw in the day time and I know what I saw.....except I DON'T KNOW what I saw but it was damned real.
This is a good subject but I have to get going. This time change has thrown my life out of whack and the damned fools in congress have got nothing else to do but try to make it permanent. This shit has already been tried once and it messed up peoples lives so bad that they repealed it. My gosh, these people are imbeciles to nth degree!
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:47 am
The legend of Val has been around for many years. I never said I believed the story was true. I thought the story tried to tie in Venus and made sure they dropped in The Morning Star as written about in The Bible to gain an audience. You've got to remember the time period when this came out. Think how many times the stories of Mars and Venus aliens were in the mix of UFO'S.
I've been interested in the subjects UFO'S and their occupants for many years. None of these stories and legends are new to me. All the people you listed Michael, I've studied their work over the years. I still enjoy going back in time and reading some of the material. I have always been a huge skeptic. In my opinion it's best to take that road.
It's the infant stage we are living in today of a huge agenda in the making. I compare it much to desensitizing the population for a set goal to be reached.
I'm one who finds it very interesting that in history and through all cultures and civilizations one theme is always in the mix........"The gods of the heavens and their visitations." Whether they be Angelic, ET, Alien, Creature, or an off creation hybrid.
Even if one isn't a believer in a Biblical account of things, you can't help but to see this link in other ancient civilizations and cultures as far back as one can go to the gods of the heavens coming among man. I believe they've had their fingerprints on and around us for thousands of years. I believe they opened the knowledge of some of the secrets of the heavens, teaching and continuing to teach mankind.
As far as the eye can see everything is in a form of deterioration and or death.
Think about it........"Something kills every living thing and every single person."
There is no such thing as a person dying of old age. Everyone of us are killed by something or someone.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:09 pm
Growing up, I wanted there to be life on other planets because that would be so neat,right? Nah, as an old man I'd rather us be the only ones in this universe.
The context of the Val supposed message, I see the connection but its just too obvious. I do know that there are sightings that cannot be explained. I had one and as a career fisherman and outdoorsman, I know damn well what I'm looking at and it was not a refection,airliners,helicopters, the moon,stars and I don't drink. There were no lights because it was daytime. I'm the only one around, out on the lake, and I watched the thing disappear. Was it a portal opening? I won't even dare to guess, but I will tell you this fun fact: Columbus Air Force Base was just a few miles to the north of where I was fishing that day and the location of a kinda' big "alien abduction" case. Here is my ufo:
It proceeded to fade out, and it did not go behind a cloud because it was a clear day and the sun was behind me. I am sitting right here in this chair still seeing it in my minds eye.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:16 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEWz4SXfyCQ
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:43 am
As of this day I have never had an encounter with any UFO'S, ET, Aliens, or whatever you want to call them that I know of.
My nephew has been in the Airforce for many years. He now lives in Las Vegas and works at Area 51. When we talk I never push him for any information about his job. He wanted this job and finally put in for it and got it. He had to go through a ton of testing. They know everything about your past, so you can't hide anything from them. They knew of his friendship in high school with a female exchange student from Russia. What ever you do, be honest and keep your nose clean.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:00 am
The video that I posted above has Joe Rogan interviewing Bob Lazar in 2019 and it is a good one. I spent all of the afternoon and evening listening to interviews and I enjoyed it so much. Lazar does not/has never struck me to be a liar or con man. Most of the so-called ufologists do. You can find flying objects in ancient artwork and cultures that go way back. The "merkabah"( not sure of the spelling) is the Hebrew word that used to describe Gods chariot. It is now above my paygrade so I leave this link. Got some good stuff on it.
https://www.crystalinks.com/merkabah.html
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:20 am
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As of this day I have never had an encounter with any UFO'S, ET, Aliens, or whatever you want to call them that I know of.
My nephew has been in the Airforce for many years. He now lives in Las Vegas and works at Area 51. When we talk I never push him for any information about his job. He wanted this job and finally put in for it and got it. He had to go through a ton of testing. They know everything about your past, so you can't hide anything from them. They knew of his friendship in high school with a female exchange student from Russia. What ever you do, be honest and keep your nose clean.
Uh, you didn't ask my opinion but I'm not going to miss this opportunity. I think that your nephew needs to come visit Uncle Scarz, sit out under the apple orchard far from any electronic devices, and have a long talk...............A VERY long talk......I spent a great 8 hours yesterday getting refresher courses on UFO's. I did not realize that Lazar had given recent interviews. I do believe his story and I do think that there is a great deception and the things he talked about are part of that deception.
Scarz, I'm gonna' bet your phone is tapped, as well as other relatives and friends of your nephew. These postings are probably monitored also, and if so, those that are violating the 4th Amendment and spying on innocent citizens, please accept this extended middle finger from me. I am going to send this and do a part 2
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:27 am
Scarz, some very weird stuff just happened on the above post. I was listening to the fighter pilot give his story that George Knapp was talking about and I typed in the"giving them the finger" part and my computer went batshit crazy!!!! I had to use task manager to stop it, I mean hell man, the thing was all over the place. I run malware and virus checks almost every day and ran one this morning and nothing showed up. I also clean up cookies except from just a few sites that I use every day, such as this one. There is no reason for this to have happened at this particular time..............interesting
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:57 am
My nephew has told my sister (His Mother) that he is sure they monitor things very closely. Certain words are not to be used or the red flags go up. My nephew is what I call a computer expert and this is the main area of his work.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:10 am
Fascinating Rogan Lazar interview. It's kept me glued to my screen.
At 1hr 36m 14s Rogan quips; "we are the sex organs of the machine world"
In light of all the transhuman stuff going on . . . the huge vaxx push that is changing peoples DNA, Elon Musk's neurolink project, the merging of mankind with machines, yadda, yadda, that statement absolutely floored me!
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:19 am
One guy that I always enjoyed reading his post on a couple of forums was John Lear. Of coarse I never really knew how much of his material was fact, fiction or just a feeding of disinformation. Most of what he wrote about were his thoughts and he wanted you to know that up front. He would bring up Bob Lazar all the time.
John Lear talked about some strange things. I'll never forget "The Soul Collector" on the moon.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:00 am
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One guy that I always enjoyed reading his post on a couple of forums was John Lear. Of coarse I never really knew how much of his material was fact, fiction or just a feeding of disinformation. Most of what he wrote about were his thoughts and he wanted you to know that up front. He would bring up Bob Lazar all the time.
John Lear talked about some strange things. I'll never forget "The Soul Collector" on the moon.
Stuff like that makes red flags come up all of the place for me. Lear may be a disinfo guy. He has the credentials that would lead one to think that he would not be one to play a role. But, you never know. I've heard some weird shit on art bells show
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:34 pm
CIA's Ronald (Ron) S. Pandolfi is someone that has always fascinated me. At one time I was a member at a forum where a friend of Ron's....... Dan Smith was posting a lot of material. Dan didn't care much for me and tried to get the Mods to ban me from the forum.
One man, and one man alone appears to occupy the best possible position to probe into the facts, fantasies, and fallacies behind the real-life "X-files" of UFOs, alien visitors, spies, lies, and polygraph tape.
And it is this same man, CIA's Ronald (Ron) S. Pandolfi, who, in the latter half of 2006, forwarded a series of emails discussing a possible violation of national security involving Internet tales of extraterrestrial visitations.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:15 pm
Okay, bro' I have spent the last hour beating my brains out trying to place the name "Dan Smith" and so far I have drawn a blank. I read your link but it didn't trigger anything. That name is a familiar name that I have ran across before by damn if I can remember exactly where. I have read and listened to mounds of material. That name is stuck in my brain and I don't remember(yet) why it should be. Like Rogan and Knapp admit, most of the ufo stuff is wacko bullshit and disinfo until you peel back the surface. Was Smith caught in some kind of fraud or scandal? Maybe he went on Art Bell or Noogies show( I call Noory "Noogie "because its best to spit him out). Tell me why this name is in my brain
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:35 pm
Here is another great listen from a redneckey looking academic who has me fascinated and I have only listened to about 25 minutes of his interview. Its about cataclysmic history and he grounds his thoughts in common sense. All of us know that this earth is older than 12-14000 years, we just don't thump the bible and try to yell over the "inerrant Word of God" gumps. I believe >THIS< modern re-creation to be 12-13000 years old but this universe goes back eons and to replenish the earth, there had to be an original "plentying" of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Cp7DrvNLQ
I know researcher said that he doesn't sign up for stuff, but I finally signed up for Spotify due to my grandson finally convincing me that Joe Rogan was the real deal and had a whole lot of great folks and interviews on his show. What I had heard from others, though, cast him as a left-wing fraud. My grandson listened to hundreds of hours of Art Bell with me as a small guy and it stuck, so he knows most of all of my interests. Sooooooo, I signed up and downloaded Spotify today and I have to admit, it is loaded with some interesting stuff. I can see that there will be a landfill worth of stuff that I won't listen to, but there is an awful lot of stuff that is right down my alley
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:29 am
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Okay, bro' I have spent the last hour beating my brains out trying to place the name "Dan Smith" and so far I have drawn a blank. I read your link but it didn't trigger anything. That name is a familiar name that I have ran across before by damn if I can remember exactly where. I have read and listened to mounds of material. That name is stuck in my brain and I don't remember(yet) why it should be.
Just because I post this about Dan does not mean I believe his views. I just want to make that very clear.
I've been reading Dan's work for years and let me tell you he really believes he is "The Spirit of Truth". Of coarse I tried telling him there was no way he was The Spirit of Truth, and that he was being deceived. Now this is just one speck of why he did not care for me at all.
Dan is a very highly intelligent man with a great education. He is not a moron. The thing that got me very interested in Dan was him being an associate of a 'Deep Insider' (Ron).
It all goes back for him to a time when The Bible opened for him to a specific Book in The Bible and most importantly for his eyes to see and read a verse. This verse was for his eyes at this time......"He knew it was about him and his mission." Here below is that verse from The Book of John.
John 16:13........"When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come."
Dan Smith's the BPWH (Best Possible World Hypothesis) is the detailed description/explanation of this awakening, in which all things are past and all things become new. Dan believes everyone will eventually grasp the BPW Hypothesis. This within a generation, to perhaps a couple hundred years at most.
The Disclosure period can be equated to the prophesied "second coming" - eschaton. And furthering that thought, the BPWH consequently reflects the "second coming".
Is it the aliens who come or the truth that they bring. Or is the second coming a sort of revelation from a body of government?
Remember, most eyes will be blind to the truth. You can not see what you can not see. Look for events to play out much differently than the most excepted. Without knowledge there will only remain corruption and deception. All the fairy tales that have been sewn in our minds are just that,...."Fairy Tales."
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:16 am
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All of us know that this earth is older than 12-14000 years, we just don't thump the bible and try to yell over the "inerrant Word of God" gumps. I believe >THIS< modern re-creation to be 12-13000 years old but this universe goes back eons and to replenish the earth, there had to be an original "plentying" of it.
Here is something that we as mankind can not grasp......"We are bound by time, a time limit." The Bible or any text has only one grain of sand of any detail of a Creator God that always was and always will be. There has never been a ticking clock for The Creator God. Mankind places The Creator God in a box because all of us exist in a box.
Just try and think of The Creator God that never had a beginning......."Everlasting". Our human brains can not comprehend that. The Creator God is limitless with creation. Is God an eternal creator?......."Never had a beginning with creation and will never have an end to creation."
We think of one small creation....."This universe and all within it". This is the box we find ourselves within.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:01 am
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I do not believe in ET's from another solar system. I DO believe in ET's from another dimension, though and I am 100% convinced that they do walk among us.
These are just a small sample of my thoughts on the subject of UFO's and The Visitors. Over the years many people have taken a very angry approach to me when I have written on the hybrid subject. Out of all I have posted, this is the one subject that I have gotten the most heat about. I have always thought that the greatest stings reflect dark forces lurking.
I understand what you are saying Michael when you lay out your thinking on the visitors coming from another realm, not another planet......."The UT's are ultra-terrestrial visitors, they come from dimension X, not ET's from planet X."
Think about a coming that is far from what we are looking for. Look back to the very distant past of what was the first coming. Now lets swing forward in time to a disclosure that is only the revelation of old dark foes for a second coming.
Here is something else I believe that is also on the plate........"Most of what we refer to as the visitors are nothing more than a work force for the UT's." This work force are the hybrids that have sprung up off of creation, they need us, we do not need them. If we disappear, they also disappear. It lines up as the population of earth (Not just human) are useful for genetics.
There are hybrids that are nothing more than worker bees for the hive. Some of the hybrids walk among us because they look like us. That was the easy part. But it has taken a very long time for these hybrids not only to look like us, but also to be customized to begin to respond and communicate as humans do. Looks may be able to get the door cracked, but to get inside the house it takes the total package.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:08 am
It is certain that Christ is the center and head of the creation, all of this universe and beyond, as Paul stated in (Col. 1, 16-17). Therefore there exists no world within this universe and beyond which is not related to Him.
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:25 am
A few months ago we had a discussion about Gog & Magog after I’d commented on the current world affairs that seemed to be lining up for this event. That view got some serious opposition from y’all. Well, I did some reevaluation on this event and had some conflicts along the way, but, I think yooz guys may just be right about it being a post millennium event. I ran across this teaching and it really made me stop and go hmmmm. Pastor Steve Anderson pretty much nails it. Gog/Magog is a post millennium event. Even though I’m pre-wrath post trib in my beliefs, sometimes it’s still hard to jettison some of that old pre-trib dispensational nonsense I believed early on.
Just so we are clear – I do not agree with everything this pastor has to say on other subjects. He’s pretty controversial as I found out when researching him. Type his name into your search engine and you’ll see why. But hey – even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.
This is a teaching from 2017 and is a tad under 1 hour to hear. Hope y’all enjoy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtthpnUaVs
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:52 am
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I think yooz guys may just be right about it being a post millennium event. I ran across this teaching and it really made me stop and go hmmmm.
I believe the evidence is strong that Gog is The Antichrist and The Gog and Magog war is the same war as Armageddon that takes place at the very end of The Great Tribulation.
The Revelation 20 {Gog and Magog} takes us 1,000 years later (Plus The Little Season of Satan....."however long it is"). I view the Gog and Magog mentioned here as a reflection, a remembrance back in time to the impact of the nations that were deceived, now deceived once again by The Adversary (Satan).
There is one thing for sure, Abaddon will come out of the bottomless pit (abyss) at an appointed time. This is a key figure and key piece that must fit correctly. A key point to remember is that The Adversary (Satan) will one day be where Abaddon was imprisoned. Just as Abaddon will one day be released, so shall The Adversary on a future day be unrestrained to deceive the nations again.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:46 am
I don't think Steven Anderson is too controversial at all. I used to listen to him a good bit. Is he wrong on some stuff? Sure, but that can be said for about any preacher or church group for that matter. Is he over-the-top on occasion? Absolutely. I think that why I listened to him,lol. Yep, Researcher, the initial interact with learning scripture is hard to unlearn. I spent many years learning about a pre-trib rapture until I tried to prove it. It does not line up with scripture but a rapture that come right before God wrath does line up with the last trumpet judgement which brings the return of Christ. If you have to twist scripture to make a certain view come in to focus, then you might want to look at it a little closer and I do hope the the pre-tribbers are right but they ain't. We are surely not appointed to Gods wrath as is told to us in 1 Thess and careful reading around the 7 trumpet judgements will show that Gods wrath does not take place until the sounding of the 7th trumpet . Jesus has left the building!!!!! God is about to judge the earth. 1 Cor. 15:51-52 explains it pretty good about the last trump and the rapture. Add this into the equation,"“For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord for ever.” – 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. The 7th seal is opened and there is a silence as if nobody is home, the 7 th trumpet is sounded and Gods wrath takes command front and center. I have no clue as to how long after the beginning of the Tribulation Period but it does indicate a late stage event.
There is another passage of scripture that pre-tibbers use concerning the deception of the "VERY ELECT,IF IT WERE POSSIBLE" and not understanding what the context is what would cause a lot of confusion, and does. The "very elect" are people like Daniel, David, Isaiah, Joshua.etc. The staunch old testament saints would be fooled, if they were alive. They won't and can't be fooled because they are dead. Another misconception occurs with the "post millenial" idea that Jesus returns after the 7 year period is over. Well yeah, once He returns, lol, the tribulation is over for the church or whats left of it.
Steven Anderson is a tough as nails preacher that crosses the line from time to time and it does appear that he has sort of developed an extremism that he didn't have when I used to listen to him. I ran a search on him and there is a lot that I have not heard about. How much is true? With the anti-christ media of today, who knows?
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:37 am
Here is something below that I wrote and Dan Smith read it and wrote a very telling reply to it.
The very elect in my opinion are those who have been sealed by God. They will be protected from the great flood of deception that comes from the mouth of Satan. The whole world will swallow up that flood of deception, hook, line and sinker.
The very elect will have in place the full armor of God. They will know that the first bridegroom who came is a false bridegroom.
Dan wrote:
This is the sink or swim issue for the BPWH.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:44 am
Can a person without the knowledge of knowing good and evil transgress the law?
Remember back to Genesis how it never says anything about The LORD'S created humankind in knowing good and evil until Adam and Eve had consumed the fruit from The Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil. The LORD God and the "US" knew good and evil but Adam and Eve did not. This shows at this point Adam and Eve did not have that knowledge.
Genesis 3:22........"Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever.
Once Adam and Eve knew of good and evil, they had the knowledge and knew they had transgressed the law. Seeing their nakedness and hiding, sheds their innocence and reveals their guilt of sin.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:43 am
This is something that I have brought up several times in the past. I do not view things as most do about the tribulation. The vast majority see the tribulation as a final seven year period of time and all seven seals are broken within that full seven year time frame.
I was in that same mindset for years until I changed my view over 15+ years ago. I believe that five of the seven seals have been broken for many years. I see the first four seals (The Four Horsemen) as the beginning of sorrows (Just the beginning of the birth pains). I believe Matthew 24 lays out the same events as does Revelation 6 in relation to the breaking of the seals.
Matthew 24:4-8
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. ( White Horse)
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. (Red Horse)
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. (Black Horse and Pale Horse)
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
The fifth seal was broken and reflects all those who have been slain, are being slain, and will be slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they maintained.
Matthew 24:9........"Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake."
I view seals six and seven to take place within The Great Tribulation (Final Three and One Half Years).
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:27 pm
We made it through again!!!! Praise the Lord! Got an email from Bordercolllie and they made it through. Right now, the line has passed us by and we are all clear, but there are tornadoes popping up all over west Alabama. I love the south but springtime can be an absolute horror show
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:42 am
It is great that the storms passed without any bad damage. When the temperatures rose yesterday in the 80"s in the region I knew that was a bad sign.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:45 am
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:32 am
Bordercollie sent this series to me a while back and my wife and I have enjoyed listening to him. Of course he is pre-trib but outside of being British I can't find much fault with his teaching. I have even got used to that awful British accent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk4LtJ6JxWw&list=PLx1KWfEwM6NspI6jjvVKmxC5mGoOpL2c3
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:32 am
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:32 am
I wanted to make a quick comment about the storms . We live out in the country but have a little place with a gas station off of all main roads about 2 miles from here as a crow flies. I was watching a homebased weatherman live on the u tube place . This guy is based out of KY but has storm spotters across the US. One of the storm chasers came to stop at this little store. It was a clip on the screen of it. I was amazed when I saw on screen. Then as the weather grew worse, the spotter said "oh my God! " . We ran to the tornado room -puppies and all. Had wind damage but all is safe. Thank you Lord.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:15 pm
Batten down the hatches, Bordercollie. It looks like y'all are just getting warmed up. I'm happy to hear that all our members in the South are getting through this wild weather unharmed. It sure seem like y'all catch wild weather a lot. I never think of the South as tornado country. When I think of tornado states I 'm thinking Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska. Guess I'm going to need to add some southern states to that list. You keep your powder dry, ya hear.
Screenshot below from The Weather Channel today.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:34 pm
Thank you Researcher. Storms ,whether the storms of life or real weather related ones, make you realize what's really important ... As I ran to the tornado room , I thought back on Lott's wife and how she looked back - not just to see what was happening but likely wistfully for something.. So sad... I looked around the little tornado room and had my local loved ones with me ( puppies too ) . That all that mattered besides loving the Lord and believing in Him above all else , because in the end, material things are like sand in our hands . I've seen a lot of tornadoes and/or their damage up close and personal - several little ones and 2 major ones. If I/you had 10 seconds to react : what would be chosen ? I talk to the Lord a whole lot and He showed me again today what really matters. Eyes open and waiting for You- not turning back for anything else. Thank you Lord.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:17 am
The southeast is Dixie Alley. Over the years Tornado Alley appears to be moving over the southeast region.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:03 am
I do think that the increase in tornado weather is directly connected to the declining respect for God. In my area, not much has changed since childhood. In a seven mile radius of right here, there are 18 functioning churches of various denominations. That doesn't necessarily mean much in other areas, but it does for this part of the country. I do see changes in the younger people to some degree, but that is concentrated in them just being dumb and oblivious to anything outside of their phones.
Here is a video that is stunning concerning the Jubilees and he goes through stuff that and connects the dots to them in a way that I had never realized. This is "must see tv" and is causing me to rethink some things. I have the Book of Jubilees and while I really never gave it much credibility, maybe I should. This lecture is amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T444XbESSHc
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:21 am
I think ya'll will really like this guy. It's obviously a very small church and absolutely one of my favorites. No pews. just stackable chairs. I heard this guy say he in another sermon that he wasn't always a pastor.. so much knowledge though !! I intend to download as much as I can of his sermons on a thumb drive for hard days ahead.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:43 am
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I think ya'll will really like this guy. It's obviously a very small church and absolutely one of my favorites. No pews. just stackable chairs. I heard this guy say he in another sermon that he wasn't always a pastor.. so much knowledge though !! I intend to download as much as I can of his sermons on a thumb drive for hard days ahead.
I do thank you for introducing us to this guy,Judy. He is a guy that I would have put on the sidetrack just because he is a Brit. I cannot stand a pomp-ass Brit with their condescending attitudes and their awful,awful accents. Give me a Scot or Irishman any day. I have adjusted to this man, though. He speaks much better than the average Limey
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:14 pm
This is an older article, but identifies Obama's roles as "Nimrod", and traces the Jesuit Vatican NWO.
I want to know the thoughts of God. Everything else is just details. A Miracle is when God makes His Reality our Experience
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:30 am
This is something I really respect about Michael Heiser, as this person mentioned in their post.
Steve W. Wrote:
What I really enjoy about Mike, aside from his presentation of an ancient worldview, is that he refuses to take a hard stance where there isn't one. On any given subject that isn't spelled out explicitly in scripture, he gives all sides, plus his opinion, but makes it very clear that it is his opinion.
There are so many teachers and preachers that do not do this. They take a stand and that is it, and never say it is only their opinion, or their thoughts on the subject. They make it very firm that what they speak is the only way. This really turns me off in circumstances as Steve W. mentioned in his post relating to subjects that are not spelled out explicitly in scripture.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:41 am
Remember when Jesus died on the cross, the earth shook, rocks split apart, tombs opened, and the bodies of many of the saints rose after Jesus was resurrected and they went into the holy city and were seen by many?
Matthew 27:52-53
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
The First Resurrection occurs at the seventh trumpet and the return of Jesus Christ. Were the saints that rose from their graves sometime after the resurrection of Jesus Christ, only brought back alive in an earthly body again as was Lazarus? I tend to believe that those saints died again........"Those saints could not have risen in their resurrection bodies before Jesus Christ rose from the dead in his resurrection body, because if that was the case Jesus Christ would not have been The First Fruits of The Resurrection of the dead."
1 Corinthians 15:20........"But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept."
We never read who these saints were, or a number of how many. We only know that there were many bodies that rose from their sleep. We also have no idea how long these saints had been at sleep.
If they were resurrected in their resurrection bodies, then how was this not the first resurrection?........"This would have been a long time before the seventh trumpet and Jesus Christ returning to earth." This is the main reason I can't view this event as a resurrection of these holy ones (Saints) in a resurrection body. I believe they rose from their sleep in flesh bodies.
These saints that rose had bodies that could be seen; yet at the ascension of Jesus Christ the apostles did not see them go up into heaven........"Only Jesus Christ."
Acts 1:9-11
And after He had said these things, He was lifted up while they were looking on, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.
And as they were gazing intently into the sky while He was going, behold, two men in white clothing stood beside them.
They also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven."
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:32 pm
Okay people – pay attention!
It’s “Mark of the Beast” time.
Dave Hodges, love him or hate him, and I’m no big Hodges fan myself, hits this one out of the ballpark. You can read all about it at the Hodges site at:
I Know Why Elon Musk Bought Into Twitter and the Answer Tells Us We Have Entered the End Days
Submitted by Dave Hodges on Wednesday, April 6, 2022
The major existential threat to humanity is not nuclear war, it is artificial intelligence (Elon Musk).
After researching on what motivated Musk to buy into Twitter, the answer greatly surprised me. God kept knocking on my heart and brain, and finally, I was able to effectively listen and I was able to connect the dots.
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If you’ve been paying attention you already have seen the video on Rumble, “MONOPOLY - Who owns the world”. If you haven’t seen it I’ll link it once more. Consider it as MOB 101 – and required for advancement. This video was not mentioned in the Hodges article but it is equal in importance to the story, none the less.
Well people smarter than me have been researching and digging. Below is some new stuff. First video is about Blackrock, Fink, and his AI robot Aladdin. If you watched the Monopoly video above then you already know who and what Blackrock is. Heady stuff.
Short at only 8 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWBRldjVzuM
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Next up we have Hacking Humans - Yuval Noah Harari of the World Economic Forum (WEF)
This one is longer and even more scary. This one is truly MOB scary and we’re living it real time this very second. Be informed.
Dave Hodges wrote:
If you actually take the time to watch the following you will quickly learn why Elon Musk is frightened by AI being in the hands of a few. Blackrock is tied closely to the WEF. Harari is the WEF's chief spokesperson on the future of humanity. In this video, Harari discusses hacking humans and destroying free will and that comes through loud and clear.
1 hour 45 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhpXU0x5894
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:47 am
`After another round of storms that were not as bad as advertised but bad enough, I can sit down and relax for a while. We got some wicked weather Tuesday morning but that was it. Yesterday was not dangerous at all, although we didn't know that until right before the storms developed because we have been pounded for several day with "alerts" and bad weather predictions. I did see some reports of tornadoes in Louisiana and Georgia. Its frustrating trying to garden this time of the year. I used to fish in the rain but you can't prepare a garden in the mud.
I suggest that ya'll make preparations to to stock up on non- perishable food items. My local grocery store that has done a remarkable job of staying stocked up over the last two years, is experiencing some inventory problems right now. It is the first time that I saw scarcity of items on his shelves. As soon as I finish this, I'm headed that way to buy corn meal and flour because there is going to be a shortage of cornmeal and most likely flour. Farmers can't survive planting corn with the price of fertilizer and fuel. A 50 lb bag of 8-24-24? I paid $12 last years. This year? Its $24.99. I listen to the video that researcher put up and dies it not sound like non-human entities talking about us piles of clay? Clay that has to be molded into their idea of an image? Sound pretty damned familiar.
I was particularly interested in the "evolving of tech" and the "evolving of bio" development talk. The two "evolving" separately but at the same time and are now becoming one? Separately my ass. I can see the final steps taking shape. If you combine that shit with the covid crap/media/financial bullshit propaganda, it appears to me that the agenda is being set for the mark to be arranged to be implemented on a brain dead world system. Remember, the final Nimrodian kingdom will be BUILT and it looks like it will be done so just like the alien-looking geek says it will, by combining tech and bio to enable the hacking of humans. You can actually see the >programming< phase kicking in now. A person is described in the bible as being a "sheep or a goat" and that rings true right now in a loud and clear meaning. A sheep will only follow one master and that sheep knows and will only respond to his owner. A goat will adapt to respond to anyone who feeds him but will have a rebellious nature about him. Side note: My neighbor used to have a bunch of goats and they would get their heads stuck in the fence. My wife would hear them bleating( I don't hear well at all) and tell me to go get them out. I would walk his fence line until I found the bastard and then I would try to get him out. They would stick their heads through the mesh and then their horns would catch the wire when they tried to pull their heads back. I then wrestled with a goat to try and help him. Do you have any idea how strong a goat is? Even a small one? Thankfully, he got rid of them but every time I would go rescue one, I would understand the point of the bible calling the followers of Christ"sheep" and the reprobates "goats"( John 10:27 says "my sheep hear my voice, I know them and they follow me")
The goats will cry "peace and safety" and rely on the world system to save them while the sheep will rely on Christ and pay for that with their lives. The apparent combination of genetics and AI is about to bring something to fruition that could not be understood 25 years ago. The whole"numbers and names" thing of Rev. 13 is becoming a bit clearer to me but is so far above my pay grade that I can't type out what is on my mind concerning this. Elon Musk knows something that I can't understand about AI and when a smart dude like him is warning against it, I think we all should issue warnings.
There is a supernatural force leading these people. They all look alike. Lettuce eaters and notice how they look so malnourished, with big ears? Sorta like if Twiggy slept with an alien Gray? Kinda' like Genesis 6, maybe except they got the genetics altered right to avoid being giants?
What is so amazing to me is that Christians are some of the most uninformed people on the planet, kinda' like drone bees. Most never allow themselves to think for themselves. In a way, that is a form of conditioning. They do not understand that most of what they think is Christianity is actually catholicism in a subtle form that has blended itself into NT Christianity and is nothing but sun worship. When I have told people to be careful what they believe, they look at me like I am the antichrist. My wife got tired of waiting on, got to stop
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:10 am
Mike is right about stocking up. Meat may be cheaper than in the future, right now because cattlemen can't afford the high prices of supplemental feed and are going to reduce herds. The price of corn has doubled from $4 a bushel to $8. All of the feed is doing the same . The fertilizer too... everything just out of reason - even the weather ! If there's a drought this summer then things will go from bad to worse. Get stocked up. Get right with the Lord. Advice from a Christian farmer.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:06 am
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The goats will cry "peace and safety" and rely on the world system to save them while the sheep will rely on Christ and pay for that with their lives.
Michael you mentioned the "Peace and Safety" spoken of in The Bible. I've heard some think that is Israel being in a time of peace and not having to worry about their safety (Security).
In my opinion I see it much like yourself......."Goat Nations" that are in camp with The Antichrist and the system. They all will be riding on the coattail of The AC and the system, blind to the destruction that is about to come down on them. True peace and safety (Security) will only be achieved when Christ returns as Deliverer.
While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:3)
Some presume that it is Israel who is saying “peace and safety.” They point to a seven year peace treaty (a deceptive covenant) that will be broken just before the final three and one half years of the signed treaty. In other words they believe Israel has been living in peace and safety (Security) for the first half of the seven years.
That makes no sense to me because all we need to do is look back to verse 2 and we can read according to Scripture this is going to take place on The Day of The Lord. The Day of The Lord takes place at The Second Coming of Jesus Christ, not at the beginning of the final 3.5 years of a broken treaty.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. (1 Thessalonians 5:2)
The Lord is not coming to bring destruction on Israel but is about to destroy The Antichrist and those aligned with him. As it says in verse 3......"They will not escape." In my opinion the goat nations are thinking peace and safety (Security) will finally be reached when they destroy Israel.
The Antichrist and the goat nations armies have no idea Jesus Christ and his army are about to enter the picture......"Jesus Christ is coming as a thief in the night.....They are in Darkness, they are not watching, they are all asleep in their minds." All of these goat nations armies are about to fight Jesus Christ and the army of heaven.
The sheep will not be lost in the darkness, they will be awake, they will be watching, they will know the signs, they are of the light of the good shepherd that leads them.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.(1 Thessalonians 5:4)
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.(1 Thessalonians 5:5)
Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.(Revelation 16:15)
And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.(Revelation 19:19)
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:51 pm
Hot, hot, HOT today and it's going be a hot time in the old Sandy Eggo town tonight. Researcher flat refuses to start the HVAC up in April. That WILL NOT HAPPEN! At least its a dry heat. Yesterday it was practically freezing here at a bone chilling 93° F - in the shade.
Meanwhile, over in the Mike & Judy slice of paradise . . . Looks like yooz folks are gonna catch a cold. Watch out for tornadoes. You're in our thoughts and prayers.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:29 am
Lol, I have 3 heaters going right now. I prebuy gas before winter and still have over 200 gallons left on that pre-buy for the year so I am not going to sit in a cold house, at least this year. FJB and I have enough firewood cut to last two years at the least. I hope the tornadoes have calmed down. The long range forecast has us not getting any scary weather for the next 15 days, but that could change in a heartbeat. Researcher, I don't believe that I have ever seen 3% humidity before in my life. Low humidity here is in the 60 range. Summertime humidity kills me, just saps my old butt of any energy
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:56 pm
OK, you tell me !?!?!? What is it? Jim Stone posted this today and that is where I got it. Had to check for myself. I went full to screen and Hi-Rez to get the blow-up below.
Jim Stone wrote:
I do not know what this next item is, but I missed it the first time around. This appeared in a February newscast that has not been deleted, you can still watch this on the NBC Youtube channel. This anomaly is in This NBC news broadcast at 7:44.
???????????? – and further more – ??????????????
NBC news caught it. See at 7 min 44 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9H_XxG9Qo4
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