The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World

Justin Peters is very good at laying things out using scripture. I really like him,he tells it like it is.

All of this leads me to why I have believed for many years that the First Seal......."The White horse rider is none other than false christianity." I see the White Horse rider representing  false christian messiahs,false christian prophets,false christian doctrines that claim to represent The Truth,carrying an "Instead Of" or "Replacement" doctrine/doctrines and conquer others with it/them. 

Matthew 24:4-5......."And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."......."For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."

These false messiahs,false prophets,false doctrines that claim to represent The Truth will spread out into the whole world and cause a great famine of the true Word of The LORD. The White Horse rider leads and the other Three Horse riders follow.

I see the first four seals (The Four Horsemen) as the beginning of sorrows (Just the beginning of the birth pains). This has been taking place a very long time. The rider on the White Horse carries a bow,is given a crown,and he went forth conquering and to conquer. The bow as well as the crown are symbols of a conqueror bent on conquest.

In these last days it is false christianity teaching and preaching a false jesus and his so called good news (gospel) that will steer people away from The Truth more than all the false religions in The Whole World. Get ready people it's been in the works for a long time. The spirit of antichrist has been flooding this earth and the flood waters are going to get deeper and deeper.

TOP SECRET SERIES—PART 17: Summoning the Angel in the Whirlwind

March 16, 2021 by SkyWatch Editor
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A section of the book Zenith 2016 (FREE IN COLLECTION HERE) called “Summoning the Angel in the Whirlwind” states:
On January 20, 2001, President George W. Bush during his first inaugural address faced the obelisk known as the Washington Monument and twice referred to an angel that “rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.” His reference was credited to Virginia statesman John Page who wrote to Thomas Jefferson after the Declaration of Independence was signed, saying, “We know the race is not to the swift nor the battle to the strong. Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm?”
Five weeks after the inaugural, on Wednesday, February 28, Congressman Major R. Owens of New York stood before the House of Representatives and prayed to the “Angel in the Whirlwind.” He asked the spiritual force to guide the future and fate of the United States. Twenty-eight weeks later (for a total of 33 weeks from the inaugural—a number invaluable to mysticism and occult fraternities), nineteen Islamic terrorists (according to the official story) attacked the United States, hijacking four commercial airliners and crashing two of them into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, a third into the Pentagon, and a fourth, which had been directed toward Washington, DC, crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania. What happened that day resulted in nearly 3000 immediate deaths, at least two-dozen missing persons, and the stage being set for changes to the existing world order….
Invitation to angels by elected officials combined with passive civilian conformity is key to opening doorways for supernatural agents to engage social governance. This is a classic tenet of demonology. Spirits go where they are invited, whether to possess an individual or to take dominion over a region. One could contend therefore that starting in 2001, the United States became so disposed in following and not challenging unprecedented changes to longstanding U.S. policies including the Christian rules for just war, that a powerful force known to the Illuminati as the “Moriah Conquering Wind,” a.k.a. “the Angel in the Whirlwind” accepted the administration’s invitation and enthroned itself in the nation’s capital. Immediately after, it cast its eyes on the ancient home of the Bab-Illi, Babylon, where the coveted “Gate of the Illi” had opened once before.
The occult realm seeks always to imitate God’s abilities through magical rituals and esoteric knowledge. Here, the heavenly portal opened only at the will of God Almighty that is called a “whirlwind” in 2 Kings is imitated by fallen angels and corrupt men in a twisted call to action. The Moriah Conquering Wind is the key to opening the Abyss. There is a reason that God prohibits communing with the dead and the fallen—because summoning the whirlwind (that is trying to open the Einstein-Rosen Bridge) from this side will only lead to the opening of Hell itself. It’s like the old story of the lady or the tiger, in which a man is given the choice of two doors. Behind one is a beautiful, voluptuous woman who will fulfill his every desire. Behind the other is a ravenous tiger that will tear him to shreds and devour him.
The Illuminati have foolishly been trying to open the Abyss since the days of Nimrod. Those who do so believe that eternal life and ultimate power and knowledge await them on the other side, but you and I know better. Instead of slaking their thirst for power, the entities on the other side of the portal—when opened—will devour them one by one. The ancient goddess Ishtar sometimes called Inanna or Semiramis was often depicted riding a tiger. Just this past Sunday, during the Super Bowl halftime, Katy Perry—the musical equivalent of a modern-day goddess—entered the arena astride a massive, animated “tiger” with red eyes. This event—like so many others staged in music videos and on award shows—may well have been orchestrated by human/demonic alliances that use such spectacles as secret rituals intended to force the opening of the door.

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Katy Perry rode the tiger—seeming to provide both the lady and the beast. The Illuminati believe they can “tame” whatever comes through the portal, but only God controls the whirlwinds and all that pass through them. The tiger will only enter when God permits it.
And then Hell will enter our space/time continuum.
Now, whenever I bring up the topic of biblical gateways and portals, the first incident most colleagues mention is the Babylon gateway that Nimrod attempted to build. Let’s take a look at the passage that describes this foolish attempt to unseal the Abyss. We find it in Genesis 11:
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.
So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. (Genesis 11:1–9)
Assuming they even teach this event, most pastors and Bible study leaders today would either allegorize or at least downplay the clash at Babylon between God and humanity, but this is a disservice to their students. I wrote a series of articles about ten years ago about this very event. Titled “Stargates, Ancient Rituals, and Those Invited through the Portal”, where I built upon the fine research by our dearly departed brother and semiotics genius, David Flynn:
In his seminal opus Cydonia: The Secret Chronicles of Mars, Flynn connected Nimrod’s construction of the Tower of Babel to the rebel planet Mars:
Nimrod…. a giant of the race of Nephilim… authored the plan for the tower…. [and was] associated in myth with Nergal, the Babylonian God of Mars… The Tower of Babel was a tower to Mars.
Symbolism used by the mystery schools illuminated the writings of Italian poet Dante, who wrote of the connections between the Tower of Babel, Giants and Mars. Intriguingly, Dante identified Mars with Satan. Paradiso Canto IX:127-142:
Florence, the city founded by Mars, that Satan who first turned his back on his Maker, and from whose envy such great grief has come, coins and spreads that accursed lily flower, that has sent the sheep and lambs astray, since it has made a wolf of the shepherd.
The ancient Cabiri (Gibborim) who built Cyclopean walls and megalithic fortresses took many forms, but they all originated from the same place. They came down from heaven to the earth. According to ancient Sumerian myth, when Nergal the God of Mars was ejected from heaven he descended with…demons….
Thus not only was Nimrod a Nephilim…not only did he design the Tower of Babel (“gate of the Gods”)…not only was he associated with Mars and built the tower of Babel to the rebel prison planet… but he, like other giants, was daimonic (demonic) in origin. The significance of this cannot be overlooked. Babel was a Nephilim gateway and it is prophesied to be the future location from which “gates” open and “giants” return. (emphasis added)
The Lord inspired Moses to write about this epic event, and the description and hidden clues offer just enough information to discern many truths about Babel. This was not merely a tower intended to reach heaven due to its height. This was a Stargate, whose design was inspired by forbidden knowledge. Nimrod had deciphered the secret to unlocking a portal—an Einstein-Rosen Bridge that would lead to the heights once envied by Satan: the Sides of the North—the Heavenly Throne.
It must also be noted that Nimrod is the template for a panoply of “dying gods” worshiped under the names Osiris (a play possibly on Asshur, which may be another name for Nimrod, the Assyrian), Heracles, Horus, Tammuz, Mithras, Cernunnos, Marduk, and perhaps even King Arthur (the once and future king). When the languages were confused at the tower, the bewildered builders and terrified citizens, who no doubt believed Nimrod to be a god who would bring more gods to their city and recreate the “golden age” spoken of by their ancestors, took the story and told it with variations upon the names, seeding the legend of the “dying god” throughout all civilizations of the world. All the legends end with a promise that their god(s) would return in the final days and inaugurate a new age.
Nimrod’s Stargate was probably located directly over Enki’s abode, the Abzu (Abyss), said to be a freshwater lake deep within the earth. The Mighty Hunter Nimrod, along with the combined efforts of the “one mind” of mankind, used fallen angel technology and nearly opened the Abyss—but the Lord intervened personally, an extremely rare event, because the Abyss must and will remain closed until the Lord permits it to be opened. And we who live in these days—days that fit the bill for the “last days” read about the modern technology and foolish experiments (CERN, for instance) that may serve as parts of the final “key” to unlocking this hideous hell-hole. The next chapter will go into the historical basis for how this all could come to pass.

There are preachers who are operating out of greed......."Money is their God." Remember we can not serve two masters.  Their preaching always includes pleas for money.  These preachers may conduct their services before hugh audiences, and some see that as proof that God is with them, but nothing could be further from the truth.

I truly believe it is that small voice,crying out in the wilderness that we are to believe and follow. That voice desires our attention,it does not beg for money.........."Salvation cannot be bought."

Human need and human greed is what these reprobates use to operate their "ministry" scams, along with misapplying and twisting scripture. We are dodging tornadoes today so keep us in your prayers

All kinds of nasty weather alerts out for you and Bordercollie. We are even seeing the alerts for y'all here in Sandy Eggo, Calif.You two keep your powder dry and I'll say a prayer for your safety.

https://www.wunderground.com/video/top-stories/tornado-outbreak-in-the-south-underway-now

and

https://www.wunderground.com/video/top-stories/get-birds-eye-view-of-monster-tornado-over-alabama

Thank you Researcher !   It's dark clouds and thunder/lightening here right now.  Yes, it rough looking for Mike too.  I'm watching live radar right now (Ryan Hall Yall)  After the  next hour or so, I should be in the clear. Thank you for the thoughts and prayers. Those sirens are sure eerie though- but ironically  can't hear them when the storms are loud...  .

Just a typical day in the south in springtime. We made it fine, but lots of serious lightning last night, along with hard rain. A few spinners 40-50 miles south of here. No reports of deaths, so that is good

Mike good to hear you made it through the storms without damage. One of my first bosses I worked for died in a tornado many years ago. He was in his car stopped at a red light when the huge tornado came right through the intersection. His body was found hanging up in a tree.

I read this and it paints a picture of a very long time war of the hate these fallen have for mankind. As they remain hidden behind the curtain,how much longer will it be before the curtain finally is opened and the hidden are revealed?

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An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception. Those who will see it will be thought of as insane. We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us. We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute. We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks. We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite. We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening. We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air. They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison. The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems. From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information. The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear. We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones. Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons. They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect. When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them it’s for their help. We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.
When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine. We will render them docile and weak before us by our power. They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison. We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon. We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides. We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan. They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil. Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us. We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion. We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how. We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves. We will foment animosity between them through our factions. When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other’s hearts apart and kill their own children. We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend. The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other. They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit. We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths. We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished. We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds. We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this. The tools will be provided by their labor. We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know! They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal. Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal. We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them. We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have. We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media. We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor. When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that. They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us. The recruits will be called “initiates” and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us. For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars. They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until it’s too late. Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves. When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion. When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin. Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW. If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action. They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter. This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came. This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself."

Where is that from Scarz? I think we are looking at it, right now!

michael371 wrote:

Where is that from Scarz? I think we are looking at it, right now!

It was sent to me as is. 

It got my attention and certainly did bring up some things that ring loudly as past,present and future events.

As you and others know, I believe this exact situation is real. The bloodlines are not important as to being actual facts, they are important because they believe it to be true. I do believe that there are actual entities operating right now on earth that shape the events and narratives toward an anti-Christ NWO just like in Genesis 11. All  of this technology was "discovered" by man?....Genetic alteration and manipulation?....No chance in creation. It was "given" to man by someone who wants to destroy the image of God
https://youtu.be/67Pe5ovBtxE

I believe God did regret the actions of man......."It grieved him." God has feelings......."Sometimes I believe people forget that." God is not a robot.

I don't believe God is saying he made a mistake. How can God make a mistake?

I believe God always knew what would happen by giving man as well as heavenly creations free will. But to God it was worth it,it is worth it,and it will be worth it. God knows the beginning and he knows the end.

But what about the middle with free will in the mix?

God can and will steer things along to get to the final outcome. God uses both heavenly creations as well as man to successfully bring about the desired objective.

I have been doing some studying the last two weeks on this subject that I've touched on in the past. I see things much differently than most do on this subject. The most believed thoughts on this topic have never fit for me. In my opinion this is a very important subject for the days we now find ourselves living in. Now and on into the future believers need to always be alert to their surroundings.
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Revelation 8:10-11

And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;


And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.


I do not believe Wormwood to be an asteroid or comet falling to earth. I believe Wormwood is a Messenger and will be seen as a great light burning like a lamp. "Lamp" is used in the sense as a symbol of guidance........" "A light to guide their path."  The light of divinity, wisdom and intellect. Remember that Wormwood will be burning as it were a lamp.

"It is a False Lamp." ........This Star (Messenger) does not bring truth,it poisons believers with deception. I believe this could be what sounds in the strong delusion that "Yes" God sends. This Messenger will cause at this point in time a third of the rivers and fountains of waters (One third of Believers in Jesus Christ) to fall away. I believe this Star (Messenger) which is described as great could be The Adversary himself. These one third that fall away will eventually die and forever be lost without The True Jesus Christ.


2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,


And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


The deception that comes upon believers is designed by God Himself with the purpose of purging or weeding out those who do not love The Truth. This delusion sent by God is accomplished through lying signs and wonders of The Adversary,The Antichrist and The False Prophet.

Many people who are Christian's just don't want to see an apostasy (Falling Away). They do almost any and everything they can to divert or avoid it. This I believe is exactly what The Adversary is counting on.


Now let me go to John 7 and Revelation 21.


John 7:37-38

In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.


He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.


Revelation 21:6......."And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely."


These rivers and fountains of freely flowing water is a symbol of believers in Jesus Christ that give us true life which produces eternal life if we "Overcome" The World.

Revelation 21:7......."He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."


Revelation 3:5......." He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."


The above verse clearly shows that a name written in The Book of Life can be blotted out (Removed). I view it as once saved now lost. 



1 Timothy 4:1........"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;"



 These fountains and rivers (Believers) of water become bitter water and lose it's sweetness? ........."In other words fall away from the truth and return to The World."


James 3:11......."Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?"


Wormwood......."bitterness,poisonous,venom"


Deuteronomy 29:16-18

(For ye know how we have dwelt in the land of Egypt; and how we came through the nations which ye passed by;


And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:)


Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the LORD our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood;


Here is something else I found of interest.


Is this little book that John took from the angel....."The Book of Revelation?" 

The Book of Revelation itself, which was given to John the Apostle, could prove to be a reason that some believers fall away by becoming bitter when having to digest its contents. The Book of Revelation once some believers consume the words written they are a tough pill to swallow for them. Even John's belly became bitter after he consumed the little book but it did not remain bitter........(The Angel told John)........"Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.


Revelation 10:9-11

And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.


And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.  


And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.


Maybe this is the reason there is a special blessing attached to The Book of Revelation. 


Revelation 1:3........"Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."


Something else that is very important to remember.

The Church is a bride betrothed to Our Lord Jesus Christ. The Church (The Bride) must remain faithful to Jesus Christ (The Bridegroom). If they become unfaithful by choosing another bridegroom......."They Fall Away." Those in the Church who are unfaithful, the rivers of living water will become bitter and they will not attain salvation.

2 Corinthians 11:2-3

For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy; for I betrothed you to one husband, so that to Christ I might present you as a pure virgin.


But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.

I have, pretty much,come to to the same conclusions as you. I actually think that the star is a false religious system that poisons the minds of people by means of deception. Kinda' like the devil did in the Garden. I am listening to a 104 part series by Stephen Chronister concerning chapters 1-19 of Genesis. Chronister is the best that I have ever heard of this subject( and any more subjects,too)

Here is a link to sermon audio. You will have to use the FILTER and oldest to newest tab every time that you listen. I have it set on this link but here, but no idea if it will go to the series. Its easy to navigate, though. The average Christian will have no idea what this man is saying, but Scarz, I'm pretty sure that you and Researcher will eat this stuff up. Anyone who loves the pre-flood period, or someone who understands that the OT and NT are the same thing just in a concealed/revealed form will enjoy this beyond words. These are not easy sermons to digest and only people who really get it, will be able to chew on it. No milk in this series

https://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?sortby=oldest&keyword=Stephen%5FA%2E%5FChronister&SpeakerOnly=true&subsetcat=series&subsetitem=Genesis+1%2D19+Lecture+Series&AudioOnly=false

I watched one of Stephen Chronister videos yesterday on Genesis. He brings up things that we have talked about many times. Stephen brought up in his lecture just how powerful and full of wisdom Satan (The Adversary) is. This really got my attention and made me think deeply how I have not seen him as clearly as I should have. 

Chronister is amazing. He is an engineer and is a mathematician to boot

His talk on the vac is interesting .

The earth is a garden, we are the seeds. And the end game is the reaping of the harvest, at the end of this age.

I see The Kingdom of Heaven,The Kingdom of God as just that......."A Kingdom"......A government of God. Each creation as pieces of that Kingdom. I see different ranks,talents,jobs,and offices. I certainly do not view this as wings on my back sitting around doing "Nothing" for The LORD.

Why have a creation if you don't use or enlist them in being a true part of A Kingdom?

The Divine Council Sons of God (Watchers,Holy Ones) that became corrupt lost their seats and will be replaced by the human Sons of God born from the resurrection of a new life that was made possible by Jesus Christ.

All the disinherited nations that took place at Babel that were put under the authority of lesser (elohim) sons of God will one day be in The Father's hands. These lesser (elohim) sons of God will not just turn the nations over,they will be "Taken" from them. All around us is a spiritual war of all wars going on and has been for a very long time.

The political system along with every other system, (religion, education, financial etc.) are perverted by dark forces.

Even if there were no dark forces perverting,could man be capable of governing himself or (others) apart from God?

Could man outside of God's intervention ever get it right?

not a chance!

Without  the Lord  my God in heaven, I would be a worthless pile of dung on a smoldering dung heap.

Some serious food for thought that hits a home run. Thought I’d pass the message along. I took this excerpt from the link below.
 
https://coachdavelive.com/articles/a-costless-christianity
 

Coach Dave Daubenmire wrote:

Is going to church, walking an aisle, and repeating a prayer really all that is required to be a child of God? Is faithful Sunday church attendance, celebration of the feasts and Holy Days, and a prayer at dinner time fit the requirements of entrance into God’s Kingdom?
 
I remember a discussion I had one time with a Sunday churchgoing, non-Christian regarding his standing with the King of Kings.
 
“Why, I was raised in church my whole life. I was born a Methodist.”
 
I could not resist the opening. “That explains a lot. You need to be born again.”
 
I think he is still scratching his head.

There is a huge difference between believing in God and believing God. 

Even the dark forces believe in God......."But do they believe God?"

The Book of Revelation is clear when the time comes there will be two groups of humans on the earth. They will either be a part of The Bride of Christ or a part of The Great Prostitute. 


The Bride of Christ........"Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready."



It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. (Revelation 19:7-Eight)





The Great Prostitute........The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath. (Revelation 16:19)



The Bride of Christ........"The New Jerusalem"

Revelation 21:9-11

Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and spoke with me, saying, "Come here, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb."


And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,


having the glory of God. Her brilliance was like a very costly stone, as a stone of crystal-clear jasper.



The Great Prostitute........"Babylon the Great"

Revelation 17:1-5

Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, "Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters,


with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality."


And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns.


The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality,


and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, "BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."



In Revelation 17:15 we learn who The Many Waters are where The Great Prostitute sits.


Revelation 17:15........"And he said to me, "The waters which you saw where the harlot sits, are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues.

The 24 Elders were never mentioned in the visions of the throne in either Ezekiel 1 or Isaiah 6.

The number 24 matches the 24 orders of priests in Israel I Chronicles 24:7-19.

Another thing is that the 24 orders of priests in Israel I Chronicles 24:7-19 were the earthly priesthood. Could the 24 Elders be the Heavenly Priesthood? 

If they were a creation before we were,then why weren't they mentioned in the visions of the throne in Ezekiel and Isaiah?

It appears to me that the 24 elders are not either angels or other creations but redeemed saints. 

Most seem to think they are the 12 apostles and 12 elders from Israel. If 12 of the Elders are the apostles,then John would be looking at himself seated on one of the thrones. This in my opinion just doesn't carry water.

In every theory there seem to be holes in my opinion. For some reason I don't believe anyone has a true picture.

We read in Revelation Chapter 4 that The Elders are seen seated around God The Fathers Throne. We don't see Christ come into the picture until Revelation Chapter 5,when Christ The Lamb Of God comes and takes the Book out of the right hand of The Father.

Notice that Christ was not seated to the right of the Father. I believe after he took the Book from The Fathers right hand he then sat to the right of God The Father. To me this looks much like Christ had just entered into Heaven,his Ascension had just taken place.

If Christ had not been seated to the right hand of The Father when we first see the 24 Elders,then Christ wasn't making intercession for us yet. The whole time frame of when John's vision took place in this event,may have been much earlier than most believe.

Romans 8:34


Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 

We have never been a part of an age without tribulations. I do not believe as most view the four horsemen. Most see them beginning their ride as the final seven years of Tribulation/Great Tribulation ring in.

I believe they have been galloping for a long time,but the birth pangs will intensify as we move closer,and closer to the return of Jesus Christ.

I moved away from the mainstream evangelical protestant view of the four horsemen years ago.

Here is something  that very few people consider when this subject is talked about. Jesus Christ is the one breaking the seven seals by which the first four are the horsemen. As Jesus Christ said....."Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:I came not to send peace, but a sword."

Jesus Christ himself tells us his message would not unify humanity,but it would cause division.

Once you step inside the enemy camp the only way to gain followers is to divide. Add to your numbers by cutting his numbers. You must break down,tear apart every fiber of the system of the false gods.

Jesus Christ never came to get along with "The World".

To this very day and on into the future when the true message of Jesus Christ is proclaimed a sword is thrust into the heart of "The World".

chapter 1 verse 19 of the Revelation of Jesus Christ:
Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
This shows three distinct time periods. Most people just assume that the prophesies contained in the Revelation are all for future reference. John was shown some things that occurred before Patmos, as well as things in the present.
Good work,Scarz! Christ is the most polarizing figure in history. All of this ecumenical
crap has nothing to do with the true Church. This is another attempt to fulfill Genesis11 and Nimrods effort to create a worldwide government and religion. The WORLD SYSTEM!
As for the 4 horsemen, I agree with you in that those things have been going on ever since Genesis 11. War, Famine,Pestilence and death on a large scale brought on by mans attempt to circumvent God. i do think that those 4 horsemen will ride together once more during the last part of the Tribulation.
Question for you? Who was Christ. I have found that most folks don't actually know who He was. I want to read your thoughts. No, its not a trick question. Well, maybe a little bit

michael371 wrote:

I do think that those 4 horsemen will ride together once more during the last part of the Tribulation.

My point is that from the time they began their ride......"They continue to this very day and will continue on until Jesus Christ stops their riding." Things will get much worse as it gets closer and closer for his return. Just like the birth pangs for a woman about to give birth.

michael371 wrote:

chapter 1 verse 19 of the Revelation of Jesus Christ:
Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
This shows three distinct time periods. Most people just assume that the prophesies contained in the Revelation are all for future reference. John was shown some things that occurred before Patmos, as well as things in the present.

 
Yes! you hit the nail on the head.

This is the reason I have said..... We read in Revelation Chapter 4 that The Elders are seen seated around God The Fathers Throne. We don't see Christ come into the picture until Revelation Chapter 5,when Christ The Lamb Of God comes and takes the Book out of the right hand of The Father.


I believe after he took the Book from The Fathers right hand he then sat to the right of God The Father. To me this looks much like Christ had just entered into Heaven,his Ascension had just taken place.


The whole time frame of when John's vision took place in this event,may have been much earlier than most believe.

michael371 wrote:

Who was Christ?

John 4:25-26


The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.


Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.



Jesus (Yeshua in Hebrew, in English Joshua or in Greek Iēsous) The Christ (Christos in Greek). Jesus was The Christ......."Christ is not his last name.".......Christ is The Anointed King, and The Messiah......"The Anointed One".

Go re-read the Gospel of John chapter one. He was more than the Messiah

michael371 wrote:

Go re-read the Gospel of John chapter one. He was more than the Messiah

I was pretty sure where you were going with your question. I thought I would let you lay it out. 

In my opinion it is very deep. The Word (Jesus Christ) was God but he was not The Father. Jesus never said in any of his teachings that he was The Father.This is where it gets very hard for the human brain to get close to seeing the true picture........."I know it does mine." 

I believe through the "Spoken Word" creation was born. As is said over and over in Genesis......."And God said, Let there be......."

He was the Creator....No, he was not the Father, but he was the Voice of God the Father. The Spirit, the Word and the Father. 3 into 1 or the Trinity. Anyone who does understand the makeup of the Almighty is a liar. Now, something else I want you to do,Scarz, is go look at the Hebrew word genders of the word "Spirit". I suspect that you already have and know what I am leading to. Adam, made in the image of God, keep that in mind.Complicated ain't the word for it. Remember, in the OT, H eas called the "unknowable One"

I guess you are speaking of the gender of the word for "spirit" is feminine in Hebrew.

You are correct it is all very complicated and way above my wisdom level.

Paraclete (Greek: παράκλητος, Latin: paracletus) means advocate or helper. In Christianity, the term "paraclete" most commonly refers to the Holy Spirit.


Genesis 2:18........."And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." (KJV)


Genesis 2:18........"Then the LORD God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.” (ESV)

The woman was taken out of Man. This to me is a sign of The Holy Spirit being in The Father....The Holy Spirit being in Jesus The Christ. As Jesus said " I'm in The Father and The Fathers in me." This is all the makeup of being ONE. Think here about The Church, The Bride of Jesus Christ......"The Bride and Bridegroom becoming ONE.


Eve (The Mother of all Living) is female (Feminine)......."She is the helper of Adam (The Man).

Without The Holy Spirit there can be no creation. Without The Spirit there is NO LIFE.

Man was created to Image God......."Be an Imager of God."

Let me correct something. I wrote "does" instead of the words "  says that they" in the above post of mine. Its what I get for writing something in a hurry. Its above all of our understanding and wisdom,Scarz. I tried for a long time to explain the Trinity. It is not possible. The majority of things that I read and scholars that I listened to, just made no sense and did not adhere to scripture. I got some video, if I can find it, I want to put here for you to look at concerning this subject. After I eat, though

Michael I look forward to viewing the video.

I really enjoy our conversation. To me it is the joy of study that keeps me going.

Okay Scarz, I'm back and intend to spend more time on here because I need it. I used to write a lot but I just fell out because of the whole "Q" fraud, and my falling for it. The damnest thing is that I KNEW BETTER! I actually thought that America might actually have a bit of a rebirth under Trump and get a reprieve. I should have never put my hope into a system that is complicit with the world. After I figured out what was going on with "Q" and all of the other copycat frauds I realized that the  forum has turned into nothing but a political bullshit session and rare was any scripture discussed any more except for your postings. More bible was written about on TD than here, so I just lost interest other than to check in each morning to see  what you wrote.
Now, having gotten that out of the way, I want to start a discussion about the Trinity and the creation. My shortcomings are taking what is in my head and transferring it to words that can be understood. If we were speaking face to face, it would be much easier. You are a very learned man and you think outside the box and in ways that you think that scripture dictates, not because some pot-bellied jackass that was standing behind the pulpit told you to think. Unfortunately, that is how most folks take in scripture, because thats how they were told to believe. Most Christians don't have an original thought pass through their brains and never question a damned thing that they are told by the right reverend so and so. I AM NOT including all pastors and preachers in this, but just using it to make a point that most "doctrine" and belief systems in the church world is bullshit. And, a lot of folks as Francis Bacon said, " prefer to believe what they prefer to be the truth!" and would not change their philosophy even when confronted and have that philosophy proven to be false. I know you are a fan of M. Heiser and so am I. I do think he has a couple of things in a "cart before the horse" context,but he and I are similar in that both of us only care what the scripture says. He is a very credentialed scholar and I am very persistent redneck, but the truth is all that matters and ones on personal preferences mean absolutely nothing. Before I go on a rant, let me post these videos and I want you to watch them and as you watch them, watch them in the frame of reference of the creation, the Elohim , the sons of God that sang for joy, and chapter 1 of the Gospel of John. After you watch them, think about SOUND, and how we are told how God spoke and nothing became everything, Jesus Christ/ Yeshua, was the Voice of God, the 2nd part of the Holy Trinity, the WORD. Remember how words are manufactured and spoken. By thought and vibration. He is the Creator, Notice the difference in the synoptic Gospels and the Gospel of John? Why is that?
Anyway, here are some amazing videos. Now, something else popped into my head but it will wait. I have work to do in here, so I'll check back in in a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yaqUI4b974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIgmiDnmVdU
Now, most folks think Genesis 1 describes the original creation. Only Genesis 1:1 is about the original, anything after that is about a re-creation. Just pay attention to the videos and consider how the Voice of God most likely orchestrated the re-creation

If I am going to come back and contribute, I am going to have to try and find a voice program. Dove put me on the Dragon program but my southern,rednecky drawl just doesn't work well with it. I am going to see if there is a voice program with improved technology that can handle the way I talk. I can speak better than I do, but I just don't see the point. I speak English, just like the highbrow shitsniffing frauds in NYC do, or the degenerates in Seatlle

I have cut my listening, during the week, down to Stephen Chronister. He can put into words the complications of scripture better than anyone that I have ever listened to and sees the little nuances between real science and how it is exactly what scripture says. He knows that Jesus/Yeshua is God,fully man, fully God, who has been around since the beginning until the "WORD BECAME FLESH" and walked and dwelt among men. Charles Lawson speaks about Christ being God but rarely elaborates. I like Lawson because he is unafraid, but Chronister is the best teacher/preacher/ lecturer that I have ever heard and he is a guy that just couldn't walk into 1ST Baptist on Main Street and preach. Why not,you ask? Just listen to him. He is so far,far over the average persons head that it would be like he was speaking Chinese to the right "reverend" Al Sharpton.
 I do wish you and Researcher lived close by me. I tried like hell to get Researcher to move here where he would be around "normal folks" instead of the crazies, and offered to help find a place. I don't know where you live,Scarz, but you ever thought about relocating to an area where you're around people that you can trust?
 Okay, The situation that got Jesus killed, was when He made the claim to be God. "Before Abraham, I AM!" The average bible-thumper has no idea what He did when He made that statement. When Moses asked Him what he should tell people when they asked who sent him, the 'I AM THAT(WHAT) I AM" reply came back into focus. The unspeakable name of God YHWH, who first showed himself to Abraham as Melchezidek, the King of Salem(shalom/peace). Christ hid himself in the OT. It was not for the Israelites to see Him at that time, Abraham saw Him as He was, so did Moses. He was the "man" that stayed behind with Abraham when the angels went into Sodom. I am amazed at how many devout,real students of the bible do not know this. Up until about 20 years ago, I was one of them,too. The Book of Revelation is not about prophesy, its about the revealing of who Jesus is.
 God the Father, is sovereign. He predestined all of this to happen before the foundation of the world. The mistake people make is that ( and that goes for me,too) is that we don't realize that we cannot understand time and the eternal. God is not bound by time, we are. Its crazy for me to think that Gods tomorrow is to Him like my yesterday, and vice versa. So much that I am not capable of grasping, but Like Paul said" I see it through the veil,darkly". Ever notice how many preachers and others just make shit up to try to explain scripture in a way to fit their belief system?
I'm typed out and need to work. I blew an afternoon just for you,Scarz!. Researcher knows most of the things that we see. He thinks out of the box pretty damned well himself.
Okay if I don't sleep late, I'll try to keep going in the morning. My keyboard went wonky this morning and it messed up my thought pattern. I had a clear head then, not cluttered by all of the thoughts of things that I have to do9that I didn't get done,again)

Good to see you getting fired up again Mike. 

Something that means a great deal to me is that we don't need to know everything......"We just need to continue to study and grow." So many people just stop and never grow. They never get beyond the infant stage of sucking milk. We were never created to be a baby believer "All of our lives". 

So many christians that I've come in contact with over the years don't care about talking about scripture. To be totally up front about it,they avoid it like the plague.

How can we grow if we refuse to feed?

michael371 wrote:

Now, most folks think Genesis 1 describes the original creation. Only Genesis 1:1 is about the original, anything after that is about a re-creation. 

Yes! I was studying this just the other day. 

A question always comes to my mind every time I read Genesis 1:2........"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

How is it that darkness was already in the picture if this was the beginning of creation?

God is Light......"There should be NO Darkness." 

Why the darkness? .........I know why I think there was darkness....."The Adversary was the cause of darkness." He is the father of darkness.....He is the opposite of The Father of Light.

I also view Genesis 1:2 as the first time the earth was covered in water and the second covering with water was in the time of Noah.

I think that those you (Scars)  refer to, don't want to know about Nimrod etc.. I believe they are those that may" talk the talk on Sunday, but don't do the walk" the rest of the time. 
 I won't ever forget  ( mentioned it here already long ago ) but when my uncle died ( he loved to hunt) , the old pastor at the funeral  said that he and Nimrod were great hunters and were probably talking about it up there..... or something like that .

Michael371 wrote:

I'm back and intend to spend more time on here because I need it. I used to write a lot but I just fell out because of the whole "Q" fraud, and my falling for it. The damnest thing is that I KNEW BETTER! I actually thought that America might actually have a bit of a rebirth under Trump and get a reprieve. I should have never put my hope into a system that is complicit with the world. After I figured out what was going on with "Q" and all of the other copycat frauds I realized that the  forum has turned into nothing but a political bullshit session and rare was any scripture discussed any more except for your postings.

 
Man am I ever happy to see this topic taking off again – AND – I missed the living hell out of seeing you, Mike, and Scarz mixing things up in here. I include myself in that too though I’m not as studied as you two are. We are all out of the box thinkers. Most of mainstream “churchianity” teaching is pure bullshit in my opinion. I’m glad you are back, Mike, now tear this thread up.
 
This posting by me covers multiple postings you and Scars put up lately, especially today’s.
 
100% agree. Like you I was all over the “Q” thing for a while but about half way through the almost three years of the drops I was getting suspicious of it all and spotting more and more flaws. The one thing that I see positive that “Q” did right was to wake folks up to study the corruption for themselves and “Q” woke up a lot of the great unwashed. I have to give “Q” kudos for that much.
 
I came to the conclusion long ago that the “Q” thing was (and is still) a major psy-op intended to keep us all “pacified” to do nothing (trust the plan) and to keep Trump in office for a second term. Notice with the Biden steal and Trump gone “Q” is also gone. Notice now there is a bevy of new folks posting nonsense on twatter platforms and such that all needs “decoding” to take the place of “Q”. More fun and games for the pacified to play and I’ve had it with all the nameless faces and decodes and what-not and the so-called “plan”. Having said that – should “Q” ever post another drop (unlikely with Trump gone) I’ll still post ‘em since I promised that I would do so as I’m a man of my word – BUT – I am not buying into it. Annnnnd, another thing; I believe that Donald Trump knew all along about “Q” and who was doing it, and that he was part of it, and he knew exactly what was going on. I’ll always believe that no matter what. “Q” going away when Trump went away NAILS IT for me.
 
Saying all that, I’m trying to be pretty careful of what I post to the forum politically and etc. You don’t see much from me politically anymore except maybe something that I’ll put up in the monthly Tidbits topic that I may think important. I have better things to do than to wallow all day in that cesspool though. We gotta face it though; the fact is that we are living in an important prophetic time. We now have “mark of the beast tech” that no other timeline can claim. It’s ON and it’s ON BIG! I do pay attention because of that fact.
 
I still post Mike Adams. Though he can get “out there” at times he has found the Lord and I’m enjoying following his journey of discovery as he grows stronger in his faith. Mike is discovering some pretty radical ideas about how the universe works and it is all strengthening his faith. GROW ON MR. ADAMS! I like following him on his journey. He makes lots of mistakes but his crystal ball is still in the shop for repair right next to mine.
 
Though I liked Trump as President much of the time I’ve soured some on him lately because of his insistent pushing on those deadly vaccines. When the covid thing hit I think he was forced into a box by powers and situations that he was unable to oppose. That’s when he started going downhill for me – though – I’d still support him (and did) for a second term. Now that he’s out of office he needs to drop pushing the vaccine thing. I believe that he’s been compromised and threatened somehow and can’t drop it though. My heart goes out to him if that is the case. I think he is between a rock and a hard place. I’m so glad that Trump found his faith in Yeshua. That’s a big plus right there. He needs to get into his Bible prophecies and drop the Zionist Israel thing, and Jared Kushner needs to be hung for all the wrong that he did.
 
Steve Quayle is ALL ABOUT JESUS – enough said! I’ve watch Doug Hagmann grow in the Lord over the years primaraly because of Steve Quayle and though they both can be over the top at times I dearly love them both and I post their shows here because of that, you know, the thing . . . the JESUS thing.
 
OK enough, I need to go start cooking dinner. I’m about tapped out for the day anyway. I wish peace and joy for you all. Post on the main forum page from time to time. Our little forum needs some new blood to jump start things again. We seem to be dying for lack of some good conversations.

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Hi Bordercollie. I see you posted while I was all busy composing this tome. Your post, dear fine lady, is such a sight for sore eyes to see and I hope you'll sound off more in this thread and any others as you feel led.

That goes for the rest of y'all lurking on this thread as well too.

Well just hells bells, Researcher, I was done for the day, but I am glad that you posted about what you did about Trump. I don't exactly think that he was part of the Q fraud,but  I sure have wondered about it more than once. Lots of stuff does not add up. Maybe he is compromised. Maybe his family was threatened, We will not vote in another election because it doesn't matter. We were psyOpped by the CIA
And one more damn thing while I'm at it. Why in the hell do people not understand that IS-RA-EL and Israel are not the same thing? Zionist Israel is not a good thing.Believing JEWS are not like the secular ones that want to rule the world. See, we had a good poster on here a while back, The Elect One, who had the correct doctrinal and fundamental belief background, according to scripture, but he got all bent out of shape over my disdain for secular Judaism and Zionism. Dispensationalism has clouded the view of scripture.God gave them the territory that Abraham stepped off but He promised Christ the throne of world rulership. ALL nations have benefited from the tribes of Jacob. But Jacob had a brother who thought he should have had the birth rite. Aw shit. not tonight

Back when Serpo hit the UFO Forums big I learned that the whole Anon thing is used more as a testing ground than anything else. There is so much Disinfo being fed that if there is any truth in the mix who has the knowledge to weed it out. The followers that are the testing ground become the pushers that spread it outward. Many people believe The Anon to be one person but it isn't......"It's a group."

Some deep division involving scripture and the Word of God causes you to go into areas that you didn't know existed in the scripture. One of those is Jerusalem. Why is it called JEE rusalem when there is no JAY sound in Hebrew? God said that He would put his Name on the city and David would be the king. From the Geneva Bible of 1587:

But I haue chosen Ierusalem, that my Name might be there, & haue chosen Dauid to be ouer my people Israel.



And from the Septuagint(which I consider to be the actual OT of today):

And it came into the heart of David my father, to build a house for the name of the Lord God of Israel.


and finally:



Jerusalem is God’s city, the city of Zion, he has invested his name there (Daniel 9:19).


Okay, peeps, here is something that I have NEVER heard preached and only one lecture on , and unfortunately, I have no clue what the mans name was now so I can post it. Now, this is not anything connected to the cults that make the claim to follow the true God, Yah, although they are kinda' on to something with the name. But, did you call your daddy by his name? Or did you call him, "dad,daddy,pop or etc?" Thats right, When I called my daddy, "Hal" I got jap-slapped back to my conception. I actually did one time, in a public setting, and there is a reason that I remember doing that. There is also a reason that I never did it again.

 "YHWH" the unspeakable name of God. If you ask the average person about how names work in different languages, they will most likely tell you that they are translated. Names are trans"literated" not translated and most of you should already know that. They use the meaning of the name. My name Michael, will sound somewhat like it does in the languages that have developed from the Greek language like English did. An example is Spanish where it is pronounced "Miguel" or Russian where I am "MIHIAL". So, it should be no different when you go from Hebrew to Englsih, just very much more difficult because the two did not originate from the same language. Hebrew is unique, but that is a different story altogether. YHWH or some use WHVH but according to Hebrew scholars that is wrong. I have no idea because my first word of reading Hebrew hasn't happened yet. Here are the definitions for both: YHVH-
In the Tanakh, YHVH is the personal name of God and his most frequent designation, occurring over 6,800 times. This is the Ineffable Name or Unutterable Name of the God of Israel. Because it is composed from the four Hebrew letters Yod, Hey, Vav, and Hey, it is also referred to as the "Tetragrammaton," which simply means "the four letters.


Now, YHWH:
he ancient Hebrew language that the Old Testament was written in did not have vowels in its alphabet. In written form, ancient Hebrew was a consonant-only language. In the original Hebrew, God's name transliterates to YHWH (sometimes written in the older style as YHVH). This is known as the tetragrammaton (meaning "four letters"


So, they are actually the same. Now, just for kicks, ask the average believer about either one. I'll bet you you go 1 out of 10 on the correct answer. Okay lets take the YAH or the I AM as in "before Abraham, I AM. Now, I am depending on the KJV here to make my point. I don't usually do that when trying to win war of ideals, because the Greek to Greek from the Septuagint is more precise than the Masoretic Hebrew to Greek. I am sure my point that I am trying to make is debatable but I am fairly certain that its within the context of scripture. Since there is no JAY sound, its Yah ru SHALOM.(lost my thought train due to cats getting pissed off at one another) "Gods city of Peace. Again, here we go with transliterated names from Hebrew to English. Since there are no vowels in Hebrew as there are in our language, only vowel points which I don't think we laymen fully understand What about this? YAHshua. That is the way we pronounce it. If you look up the name YESHUA, It means "YHWH's salvation".

Indeed, Yeshua is the Hebrew name for Jesus. It means "Yahweh [the Lord] is Salvation." The English spelling of Yeshua is " Joshua." However, when translated from Hebrew into Greek, in which the New Testament was written, the name Yeshua becomes Iēso

I rest my case. Jesus was not THE FATHER, but he was God and you must believe that. The book of Revelation of Jesus Christ tells you who He is, as does the entire OT, which is absolutely THE SAME AS THE NEW TESTAMENT EXCEPT THAT ITS IN A CONCEALED FORM!!!!!! The temple is a block and mortor replica of the body of a MAN, the MAN jesus Christ and I have not realized that for all that many years. Bordiecollie should remember when it was being revealed to me.

Okay, I have my Humane society adopted baby with her head on my arm wanting some of my English muffin that I am eating(wife makes them from scratch). Researcher, I could not have gotten a better replacement for Ninja, my great pyrenes. This dog is just as sweet, just as smart and just as sneaky cunning as Ninja was, and so like her in almost all her ways. The big difference is Mattie is not lazy. Ninja was as lazy as a Mississippi River Delta democrat. Bordercollie will know what I mean. SO, I have to go to work, which means piddlin'
 around at my age. I have to stay busy even if I do amounts to nothing because my ass will sprout roots to this recliner if it stays in it for very long. I didn't check for typos, or left out words, so you are on your own.....

this happens a lot....I set up wireless speakers in the garden to listen while I piddle, and look at what just happened to pop up. Pay attention to the first part and listen real close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzTDcoATp0U&list=UUSobj4-zeNrxokV_tkgDWzQ

This probably isn't the place to post this, but I am not posting on the political board, only this thread. This goes right along with my conviction that the "mark" is more than a chip and involves the human genome. If they are making this public, then it means that they have been doing this far longer and with far more sophistication that they have let out.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/04/15/scientists-have-created-embryos-that-are-part-human-part-monkey/?sh=59ba9ffc396c

Mike & crew - that's one good example out of many why I said what I did in my post yesterday. I have a pretty good reason for believing that our names written in the Lambs book of life may be referring to our individually unique God given DNA. Is willingly altering that DNA maybe tantamount to having ones name blotted out of the book of life? Food for thought.

Of course, names have been blotted out since the beginning of time so maybe this speculation on my part needs more thought. Maybe this vax jab is just the big mark of the beast one that can't ever be reversed and the person can't be redeemed. Heady stuff.

Researcher wrote:

We now have “mark of the beast tech” that no other timeline can claim. It’s ON and it’s ON BIG!