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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:09 am
Quite obvious in scripture is the fact that a great multitude “which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues” will come out of Great Tribulation (Revelation 7:9,14). If this great multitude comes out of Great Tribulation, they had to be alive and in it, and they did not worship The Antichrist.
There are many people that believe everybody on this planet earth will serve The Antichrist. That can't be true with what is written in scripture. We must understand that there are sheep nations as well as goat nations. Not everyone is in his back pocket.
In Revelation 13:8 and 17:8 John shows us it will not be literally all that dwell upon the earth that will Worship (Serve) the Beast. It is, rather, a certain group........"This group are those whose names are not written in the book of life.” This group are those who carry with them "The Mark".
There is however no doubting The Antichrist will seek to rule the whole literal earth and force the political and religious ideology of the Beast upon every man, woman and child on the planet.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:45 am
Looks like Bordercollie and Michael371 are going to catch some wild new years day weather. Let's keep them in our thoughts and prayers.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:58 pm
Thanks Researcher, Mike and ya'll. We're trying to get our barn work done before it gets here. It looks like we're in the bright red zone and Mike is closer to the darker more dangerous area. Right now it's an unheard of 80 windy degrees but falling to 24 degrees within 24 hrs ,so do expect some bad weather. Everyone be cautious as it moves to the NE. If the evil one wasn't roaming the earth, we wouldn't have such things happening.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:35 am
"If the evil one wasn't roaming the earth, we wouldn't have such things happening."
Very few folks even consider this Judy. One day this will all stop, the hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc but until then we still realize just how fragile and weak that we are and our only strength is in Christ.
I was worried about this one, I ain't gonna' lie about it. I prayed a lot before it got here, not to be safe here and have storms hit other folks, but for it to be calmed down. The storms were not as bad as predicted to be and I have not heard of but one small twister that hit in Ky. Guys and dolls, this is January! I cut wood in shorts the past week. It was 80* yesterday. Today? I am burning some of that wood and all of the heaters are burning,lol. I love the south for about everything except for mosquitoes, fire ants and the weather.
The stress of tornado season down here can be kinda' rough in the early springtime. I saw the results of an F-5 when it destroyed the town of Guin, about 25 miles from here, in the 70's. It looked like the pictures of London after being bombed by the Nazi's in WW2. It was just rubble. All of it, the entire town was just gone. Thats when I began to realize how fragile life is
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:20 pm
That's right. It was sleeting just a few minutes ago and I was wearing a t shirt yesterday while working at the barn. I've been in more than my share of tornadoes (at least 3) and the direct aftermath of several others. I was born during a storm and still get shivers when one is sighted and when the sirens go off. One skipped over my old homeplace 2 years ago this month just taking 2 big trees down. I had asked the Lord to protect it every time I left it, and He did but for some light damage to the roof and it pulling the meter off of the house, shingles etc.. I just sold it and still I miss it. But the Lord knows I needed to and provide me with a buyer - a neighbor's grown child) . I'll tell ya'll this...... Sometimes I have a thought in my head- is it a silent whisper maybe ? ... But I was out there in the yard, sawing on the tornado tree like I'd been doing the last year. Then the neighbor's daughter pulls up to her dad's gate and I feel compelled to go over , say hi and tell her that I may sell it. Her eyes get big when I tell her the price as is , and she calls me the next night. By the way, I had asked the Lord to send me" as to what to do" that morning before I saw her...... I have these things like this happen all the time. Like right after the tornado, I drove over and saw all the damage and fell to my knees with eyes closed.. when I opened them, the thought "a bite at a time " came to me. I was almost through with the tornado trees when the house was sold- just the stumps remained. I had uprighted those massive ( very huge seriously) things by listening to the thought that came to me as I slept (after praying about it) and then doing it. Amazing isn't it. I do know the answer is sometimes no and understand that's because He knows best . If ya'll heard all of my experiences........ I did almost drown when I was 6 or did I drown and was brought back ???? by my grow teenage girl cousin holding me up by by ankles and shaking me till the water came out.. I did see a very bright light.. True .. so many things..........
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:20 am
The weather is something that can be a nightmare in the snap of a finger. My mother was terrified of storms when I was growing up. When you're young a terrified parent can scare the hell out of you by their reactions. Mother would get to the point of being so frightened she didn't know what she was doing. It seemed like most of the time Dad was always at work on stormy days. When Dad was home she wasn't as frightened, because Dad was a total opposite and would help to bring a calmness to the situation.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:07 am
Bwhahaha!! I wore shorts 24 hours ago and woke up to about 2 inches of snow on the ground this morning!!!! Last night right after dark I went out with my dogs on the north end of the house. They wouldn't even pee. I had to carry them to the south side where it was protected from the wind and rain/sleet. They usually are right here by now, letting me know its time for our morning walk but not this morning. One is laying under my wifes chair by the heater and one is laying in front of the fireplace. I have not moved very far away from this electric heater at my feet,either. Huntsville, in north Alabama, had places that had up to 5 inches of snow. Looks like I'll run my errands for a couple of days and not even consider working outside.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about Islam as the 4th kingdom. I cannot see it being alone in that position. Catholicism( mother goddess/child worship) has to be a part of it
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:18 am
Well, as soon as it gets above freezing today ,we have a days worth of cow work to do that has to be done. So come on down and help. I need to move further south... We only had snow flurries. I'm looking forward to having a rainy day when I can do my research . Well I gottta go ...
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:49 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QGySwYYjb0
Why did the Vatican train Muhammad and created Islam??? #1
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:51 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuqXWh5iNwQ
Why did the Vatican train Muhammad and created Islam??? #2
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:52 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsnjrkGh2dI
Why did the Vatican train Muhammad and created Islam??? #3
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:02 am
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I've been doing a lot of thinking about Islam as the 4th kingdom. I cannot see it being alone in that position. Catholicism( mother goddess/child worship) has to be a part of it
I agree with what you're saying Michael. I've been studying the Islam side for some time now, and yes some things connect but others don't. It is a sure thing in Daniel that three of the kingdoms are a sure thing because Daniel tells us exactly who they are, but Rome is never perfectly mentioned as the fourth. Most everybody jumps to the mixture of iron and clay as a revived Roman Empire, but that comes about as them believing Rome is the kingdom of iron.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:10 am
Yes Michael, a lot of people believe The Vatican created Islam to stir up trouble.
Here is something else to think about when considering as some believe The Antichrist will be of The Islam faith. How could a true believer in The Islam faith "EVER" magnify himself above Allah?"
Daniel 11:36-37, “And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.”
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:31 pm
Oh hells bells, I feel a good one coming on! There is a bunch of scripture that DOES match the Islamic/catholic connection. I have to carry a cat to the vet this afternoon. Notice the "god" not capitalized except for the God of gods where its obvious that its talking about YHWH
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:52 am
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Oh hells bells, I feel a good one coming on! There is a bunch of scripture that DOES match the Islamic/catholic connection. I have to carry a cat to the vet this afternoon. Notice the "god" not capitalized except for the God of gods where its obvious that its talking about YHWH
Yes sir, we can always view the little gods as nothing more than the Fallen Sons of God. YHWH like you said is God. Islam views Allah as God. If The Antichrist does not regard the God of his fathers......."Then who is the God of his fathers?" Because we know by the text that he doesn't regard (feeling of respect and affection) either the God of his fathers or any god....."And he shall magnify (to cause to be held in greater esteem or respect)himself ABOVE ALL."
But we know by what I placed in a resent post.......“But in his estateshall he honour the God of forces … a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour … a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory.” This is the god that Antichrist will not exalt himself over, one that would be familiar to him, but not one that would be familiar to his fathers.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:39 am
Its cold in the sunny south this morning. I have no use for the state of California in general, but I admire the weather in the southern area. I don't like snow and I don't like thunderstorms nor do I like cold. Pretty choosy, ain't I?
The most interesting thing about Islam is when you compare the Islamic eschatology to bible eschatology. It is a mirror image, a complete opposite. Their "messiah" is in lock step with the biblical man of sin. I'm operating on memory so I might not remember some things or misremember others. One thing to always consider: never disassociate thecatholic church from anything concerning the end times. Their desire to capture Jerusalem is a well-known fact ever since the Constantine. https://grandmageri422.me/2020/02/01/the-islamic-mahdi-could-he-be-antichrist/
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:37 am
In Daniels vision of the metal statue, the legs of iron are thought to be Rome and I agree because of the move of the Roman Capital city from Rome to Istanbul and renaming it Constantinople. Thats pretty clear.....I think.....The legs of iron originate from one place which would be the hips, out of the Greek empire and split into the eastern and western regions. Now, this seems to be the most obvious answer that would lead into the 10 toed kingdom that Christ destroys at his return. A lot of bible folks think that this was accomplished by the 10 bands of Vandals that attacked Rome in a guerrilla style war that lead to the final days of the Empire Those bands lead to the formation of Europe and obviously the pope,little horn, comes out of that. I don't buy that but I am interested in that idea. The reason that I discredit that is the Stone(Jesus) destroys the 10 toed kingdom resulting in the dismantling of all of the residue of world empires.
This version cannot be the way things turn out because of these two related scriptures seem to discredit that idea: And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first... (Daniel 7:24) And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. (Rev. 17:12-13)
Joel Richardson(why does my font style always resemble what I copy and paste?) promotes the Islamic slant to this and I do think they are part of the equation, but I think that Islam and the Catholic whore will unite into a bastardized version of both. I have spent a lot of time through the years pontificating this endtimes scenario trying to make things fit. It involved the square peg/round hole type trial and error measure. In order to make things appear to fit scripture, I can only find ONE theory that fits RIGHT NOW. The only idea that has all of the missing parts for the 10 toed kingdom is the Club of Rome proposal to divide the world up into 10 different economic regions. The political bullshit that we see coming out of the mouths of mental midgets like AOC and other commie nitwits are right here in the CoR own website: https://www.clubofrome.org/ A really interesting parallel to Nimrod and Babel is that the idea of a global union is present in both, and what was the result of mankind 'organizing itself to act together' in times past? The Tower of Babel! And what was the 'common threat' at that time? The fear of a global disaster! https://www.end-times-prophecy.org/club-of-rome-climate.html
The toes of iron and clay should(why does this happen with the fonts?) or at least appear, to represent the remains of the Roman Empire on one foot with the iron and the other foot the weaker nations such as Africa,Asia. Maybe...... Or it could be the western nations that are descended from Rome on one foot while the other foot shows the eastern leg of Rome that ends with Arab Nations.
Islam has to be there because the nations in Ezekial 38 are all Islamic nations, or they are at the moment. With the present world power structure, its hard to really grasp a situation where all moving parts fit the scripture.......Except for one.......The Club of Rome and their vision of world government. Now, there are still parts left over in the assembly of this theory but its the closest,at the moment, of any.
Here is a very interesting video from a guy that we love to listen to and he is from all places, Oregon. Its nothing really specific, just a great listen:
Now to head outside and gather firewood the Neanderthal way
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:40 am
I keep looking at Daniel and Revelation and as you said Michael some things fit, but others do not appear to fit at this point in time. That's the thing about Bible Prophecy......"We never know fully until the final curtain has been drawn."
As time moves forward this old world can change in a blink of an eye. We can think we understand by the pattern lain out now, but the pattern can and will change.
I have wondered if Europe one day will become an Islamic continent. As you mentioned Rome becomes as one with Islam. Strength of Iron Nations (Ethnic groups larger or dominant national or cultural groups) and Clay Nations (Weaker ethnic groups with no dominance). But as we read in Daniel and it is just a fact......"Iron and Clay do not mix."
The Antichrist will attempt to mix them but as we read in Daniel there will be Nations that don't go along with the program. There are some Nations that will come against The Antichrist and make war. There are others that The Antichrist will push against and make war. The Antichrist will also be worried about news coming out of the east and the north (Dan 11:44).
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:36 am
This lays out Joel Richardson's view on the region where The Antichrist will come from. He uses some good OT prophecy to show why he believes as he does. I think you and I Michael agree with him in the area. He also believes that Gog is The Antichrist and Magog is within the region of Turkey. I did like the way he expressed his thoughts on Jesus Christ being much different than how many believers view him as does Joel Osteen. It reminds me of how some never touch on The Wrath of God.
Take some time to watch the video if you haven't already viewed it.
The Antichrist and the Beast from Genesis to Revelation: Maranatha Global Bible Study 38
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:42 am
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He also believes that Gog is The Antichrist and Magog is within the region of Turkey.
Some interesting thoughts on this and other things that relate to the topic. These are not my words below but are from a member on a blog 15 years ago that I saved. I thought he (Bob) lay out some good ideas.
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A careful comparison of Scripture with Scripture and much prayerful study over a long period of time has led me to the conclusion that Ezekiel's Gog-Magog war and the Battle of Armageddon described by Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah, and other prophets before the days of Ezekiel, as well as by the beloved Apostle John in the Book of Revelation, are the same event. Further, these comparisons have convinced me that Gog of Magog, the Assyrian, and the Antichrist are all one and the same person. Ezekiel 38:17 proves this fact beyond doubt.
"Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?"
The Lord GOD is speaking directly to Gog of Magog ("he of whom I have spoken"). It is evident in searching thru all the other books of the "prophets of Israel" that the Antichrist is referred to many times by many names, but, here in Ezekiel is the only place in the Bible we have a reference to a Prince called "Gog". So, if God's "servants the prophets of Israel" "prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee (Gog) against them", Gog and Antichrist have to be the same person because the only person the others prophesied about invading Israel was Antichrist.
I realize that most Bible scholars believe the land of Magog refers to lands encompassed by modern Russia. This does not, however, mean that Gog, himself, has to be a Russian in order to lead a coalition of "many nations" including Russia into battle. We know from a study of Daniel 11:35-45 that the Antichrist will come from the Syrian (Selucid) division of the former Grecian Empire and that other passages refer to him as "the Assyrian", "the King of the North", the "Prince that shall come", "the Beast", "the Son of Perdition", "that evil one", "a wicked counsellor", etc. Now, thanks to Ezekiel, we can also refer to him as Gog of the land of Magog, the Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal. I think with a little careful study you will find historically that Meshech and Tubal were located in the area of modern Turkey, not Russia, and Turkey was definitely a part of the Syrian or Selucid portion of the four divisions of the former Greek Empire.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:12 am
Thats exactly as I see it. Antiochus Epiphanes iv was the type and shadow version of the antichrist, there cannot be any argument on that. There can be plenty of debate on other parts of the equation, but not on the area from which the antichrst arises.. A revival of the ottoman empire? A divided Roman empire. Its been discussed here a bunch but to follow the scriptural map that is laid out, Turkey is the hotbed for action.
The two legs have to be symbolic of the dividing of ancient Rome and the 10 toes are a symbol of 5 divisions of those two divided areas. Catholic/Muslim? Thats what I suspect but notice in Chapter 13 of Revelation the financial aspect of it. Thats why I am of the notion that the Club of Rome and the plan to divide the world into 10 economic areas fits into the equation. I could get into the micro-evaluation of of our feet and compare it to scripture but I think that might be a little too much evaluation. But notice that your feet mirror each other and are backwards to each other? The toes are all different sizes with one dominant one and a little piggy? Maybe that means something, maybe it means nothing.
Who hates Israel the most? Who hates Christians the most? With all of the false flags taking place, how hard would it be to orchestrate or "build an image" to a revised Ottoman empire? With a 12th Iman coming up out of the ground? Pretty easy
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:20 am
Putting everything in place is the key. The pieces are there, but I do not believe all the pieces have been snapped together. Some take a system and try and force pieces to fit in "Their System". I believe that the rapture systems are "HUGE" in trying to force pieces to fit into their theories.
There is one thing for sure, Abaddon will come out of the bottomless pit (abyss) at an appointed time. This is a key figure and key piece that must fit correctly. A key point to remember is that The Adversary (Satan) will one day bewhere Abaddon was imprisoned. Just as Abaddon will one day be released, so shall The Adversary on a future day be unrestrained to deceive the nations again.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:14 am
These are some interesting verses of scripture in The Book of Revelation that appear to me as a similar description of the slaying and resurrection/rising of Jesus Christ and The Beast.
Revelation 5:6........"And I saw between the throne with the four living creatures and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth."
Revelation 13:3........"I sawone of his heads as if it had been slain, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast;"
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:50 am
Very interesting scripture from Hosea and notice how the symbolism contained in this passage is clear in matching up with Daniel 7. God's judgment against Israel will take the form of a lion, a leopard, a bear and a beast as found in Daniel's vision of the Four Beasts.
Hosea 13:4-8
But I am the LORD your God from the land of Egypt; you know no God but me, and besides me there is no savior.
It was I who knew you in the wilderness, in the land of drought;
but when they had grazed, they became full, they were filled, and their heart was lifted up; therefore they forgot me.
So I am to them like a lion; like a leopard I will lurk beside the way.
I will fall upon them like a bear robbed of her cubs; I will tear open their breast, and there I will devour them like a lion, as a wild beast would rip them open.
Daniel 7:3-7
And four great beasts came up out of the sea, different from one another.
The first was like a lion and had eagles' wings. Then as I looked its wings were plucked off, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand on two feet like a man, and the mind of a man was given to it.
And behold, another beast, a second one, like a bear. It was raised up on one side. It had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth; and it was told, 'Arise, devour much flesh.'
After this I looked, and behold, another, like a leopard, with four wings of a bird on its back. And the beast had four heads, and dominion was given to it.
After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, terrifying and dreadful and exceedingly strong. It had great iron teeth; it devoured and broke in pieces and stamped what was left with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:21 pm
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:45 am
Boom, Scarz! I had never noticed that parallel in my life. Wow! Notice that it is God that says that these animals are His depiction of His actions toward Israel. The fourth beast in Hosea is interesting,too. A "wild" beast? Are not a leopard,a bear and a lion also wild beasts? What does that word "wild" mean when its used in connection to the fourth beast?
Wild, as used in Hosea: sâdeh, saw-deh'; or שָׂדַי sâday; from an unused root meaning to spread out; a field (as flat):—country, field, ground, land, soil, × wild
In my mind wild means "untamed" or the opposite of domestic but inspecting the Hebrew using the Strongs Concordance it shows a variance of meanings. The reading of Hosea tends to make me think that the fourth beast is a combination of the other three. I am just rolling this around in my broken brain and offering a thought. We are fairly certain that the lion is Babylon, the leopard is Greece and the bear is Persa. Interesting that Greece incorporated Assyria and broke into four regions after the death of Alexander. So, I looked at a map of the Ottoman Empire and found it shows these regions: https://geopoliticalfutures.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/mena-ottoman-europe-colonies-1280.jpg
Could the fourth beast be the eastern leg of Rome? Not the European leg? Titus broke Israel into pieces and destroyed the temple so you could think that the Roman Empire, in its entirety, would be the fourth beast. This can be debated until doomsday, my idea is still that the fourth beast is a combination of ISlam and catholicism with the 10 horns being the Club of Rome division of the world into ten economic sections. I may be off base but its an interesting subject
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:53 am
End Time Talks 11: The Jewish View of Gog Magog
This is where Joel is talking about Gog in Numbers 24 as he believes is The Antichrist. Agag is the translation in all Masoretic Text of The Bible but in The Septuagint it is Gog.
I will post both verses below.
Numbers 24:7........"He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed shall be in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted. (KJV)
Numbers 24:7........"There shall come a man out of his seed, and he shall rule over many nations; and the kingdom of Gog shall be exalted, and his kingdom shall be increased. (Septuagint)
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:06 am
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The reading of Hosea tends to make me think that the fourth beast is a combination of the other three.
Yes!!! that is how I'm beginning to see it also. I think The Western version does not fit the puzzle as much as does the Eastern. I don't agree with everything Joel Richardson lays out but I think he is making some very good points.
Leviticus 26:22
I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:29 am
Remember what is written in Revelation 13, it is very important. The Leopard, The Lion, and The Bear are the total land mass of those Kingdoms that were in the past that will one day make up the Kingdom of (The Wild Beast) that is terrifying and dreadful and exceedingly strong. When The Little Horn rises this composite power of The Leopard, The Lion, and The Bear which make up The Beast Power of The Wild Beast will be the great war machine of The Little Horn (The Antichrist) that will devour (Like a Wild Beast) the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
That doesn't mean The Antichrist will not have allies that line up with his war machine.
"The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority."
Yes!!! The Dragon (The Adversary, Satan) is the god of this world......."But without The LORD GOD allowing it to occur, it will never get to first base.
Another key to remember is that when The Stone (Jesus Christ) cut out without hands smashes into the feet of the Great Image........"All will fall and crumble at the very same time." (The Leopard, The Bear, The Lion) The Wild Beast that was is no longer.
Daniel 2:45........"Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure."
The Stone (Jesus Christ) was cut out of The Mountain (The Kingdom of God, The Kingdom of Heaven) and will crush The Great Image.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:09 am
Revelation 20 brings up the reference to Gog and Magog after the millennium and the nations of the world have been deceived by The Adversary (Satan). A huge question comes to my mind every time the topic of Gog being The Antichrist.
Revelation 20:7-10
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
How is it possible for Gog to be The Antichrist if he has already been cast into the lake of fire at Armageddon?....."Is this event that plays out in Revelation 20 a remembrance back in time to Gog and Magog in the mind of The LORD?" Now 1,000 (Plus The Little Season of Satan) years later the very thought of Gog and Magog and the impact of the nations that were deceived once again takes a compete circle and what was...."Is Again."
Revelation 19:19-20
And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
These are some thoughts from Michael Heiser below on Gog and Magog.
"Gog would have been perceived as either a figure empowered by supernatural evil or an evil quasi-divine figure from the supernatural world bent on the destruction of God’s people. For this reason, Gog is regarded by many biblical scholars as a template for the New Testament antichrist figure."
"The battle of Gog and Magog would be something expected after the initiation of Yahweh’s plan to reclaim the nations and, therefore, draw his children, Jew or gentile, from those nations. The Gog invasion would be the response of supernatural evil against the messiah and his kingdom. This is in fact precisely how it is portrayed in Revelation 20:7–10."
"For sure ancient Jews would expect that the reconstituted kingdom of Yahweh would be shattered by an enemy from the north—as it had before. But ancient Jews would also have thought in supernatural terms. A supernatural enemy in the end times would be expected to come from the seat of Baal’s authority—the supernatural underworld realm of the dead, located in the heights of the north. Gog is explicitly described in such terms."
"All eschatological systems are speculative in many respects. The point is that the supernatural worldview of ancient Israel and Judaism must inform our own thinking. The cosmic enemy from the supernatural north, where the council of evil plotted against Yahweh’s council, was a fixed part of the worldview of the biblical writers—especially when it comes to the end times."
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:17 am
I've tried to twist this around many times in order to make it fit. I am still trying. Putting things and events in order with Ezekiel 38 is difficult and maybe impossible for me to do. Is it two different events or two descriptions of the same event?
The "putting hooks in the jaws" of Ezekiel suggests that they had already been there before because they had been "drawn back" into the countryside around Jerusalem. Most accept the Ezekiel narrative and the Revelation one to be two separate events. I'm not sure bout that at all. I've looked at them being just two depictions of the same event, that doesn't work either because the details in Revelation do not line up.
The ONLY scenario that would POSSIBLY work is that Ezekiel 38 is actually Armageddon instead of WWIII as most scholars think. Ilike this one the best because it seems to line up scripture the best due to the following chapters outlining the temple and courtyard construction that seems to be for the 1000 year reign of Christ.
I don't want to over-analyse this because I just don't quite have it all wrapped around my head. The "spiritual" angle just does not work for me, either. The spiritual definition has saved me many times in trying to figure scripture out but not this time. I will see if there are some teachings online that look into this, probably tonight, to see what others may think. Just clarifying the timeline would go a long way.
Scarz, you think too much! Then you post it and I get to thinking about things that make my brain hurt.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:36 am
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The ONLY scenario that would POSSIBLY work is that Ezekiel 38 is actually Armageddon instead of WWIII as most scholars think.
Scarz, you think too much! Then you post it and I get to thinking about things that make my brain hurt.
Michael......You and I are thinking much the same way when it comes to Ezekiel 38 and Armageddon. The more I study this subject the more I see it as the same event. There are just too many things that occur the same that have led me to no longer view it as two different wars.
I really enjoy thinking about it all......."It keeps me in The Word." The majority of prophecy teachers in the USA in my opinion try to line it all up in a time frame of our generation. Some I think are more interested in selling books and need to keep everything within our generation for sells.
This below is from Dake's Annotated Reference Bible and He makes a very good case with the points he lays out.
If we accept the Battle of Armageddon as coming after Gog-Magog, then, we must accept two supernatural destructions of two gathered armies by the Lord of Hosts each led by a different Assyrian Prince, two great suppers for the fowls, two great earthquakes that shake the whole world, two mass burials of armies in a valley called Hamongog, two 7-year periods of burning weapons, and two different days about which God proclaims, "Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken."
Fourteen Proofs Armageddon Is Referred to Here:
(1) Not one statement in these two chapters (Ez: 38-39) mention a war in Israel before Armageddon [or after].
(2) The battle of Armageddon is the only war predicted by the prophets that could possibly be referred to in these chapters (Ezek. 38:17). Armageddon is mentioned many times by Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah, and other prophets before the days of Ezekiel (Isa. 1:25-31; 3:25-26; 13:1-16; 24:21; 63:1-6; Jer. 25:30-33; 30:11,20-24; Joel 2-3; Oba. 1:15-21; Mic. 1:3-4; 2:12-13; 5:5-15; etc.).
(3) The destruction of Gog and his armies (Ezek. 38:18-23; 39:1-6,17-20) compares with similar statements about Armageddon in Joel 3; Zech. 14; Rev. 19:11-21.
(4) Gog will not fall upon the open field until Armageddon (Ezek. 39:3-5; Rev. 19:11-21).
(5) The great supper for the fowls and beasts will only be at Armageddon (Ezek. 39:4,17-20 with Mt. 24:27-28; Rev. 19:17-21).
(6) The presence of God (as pictured in Ezek. 38:18-21; 39:1-6,17-24) will not be until Armageddon (Isa. 63:1-6; Zech. 14:1-5; Rev. 19:11-21).
(7) The supernatural destruction of Gog and his armies (as described in Ezek. 38:21-23) will not be until Armageddon (Isa. 63:1-6; Joel 2-3; Zech. 14; Rev. 19:11-21).
(Eight) God will not magnify and sanctify Himself and set His glory among the heathen (as stated in Ezek. 38:23; 39:21-24) until He comes at the second coming of Christ -- at Armageddon (Zech. 14:1-21; Mt. 24:29-31; Rev. 19:11-21).
(9) Gog will not bring the many armies of the nations into Israel to be destroyed until the time of the second coming of Christ, at Armageddon, as referred to in Ezek. 38:18-23; 39:1-7 and proved in Zech. 14:1-5; Rev. 16:13-16; 19:11-21.
(10) The great earthquake of Ezek. 38:20 will not take place until the seventh vial and the second coming (Zech. 14:1-5; Rev. 16:17-21; 19:11-21).
(11) God's presence will not destroy Gog and his army until the second coming, at Armageddon (Ezek. 38:20; 39:2-7 with Zech. 14:1-5; Rev. 19:11-21).
(12) Gog and his army cannot be destroyed in a war in Israel before the second coming, at Armageddon, to fulfill Ezek. 38:18-23; 39:1-7,17-20, and then be destroyed again at Armageddon to fulfill Isa. 63; Joel 2-3; Zech. 14. We must therefore recognize all these passages as referring to the same destruction -- at Armageddon (Rev. 19:11-21).
(13) The burial of Gog and all his armies destroyed in the fulfillment of Ezek. 38-39 will be at the second coming of Christ (Ezek. 39:11-16 with Dan. 7:11; 2Th. 2:8-12; Rev. 19:11-21).
(14) It is at the second coming of Christ that God's glory will be set among the heathen and Israel will be completely gathered and blessed (Ezek. 39:21-29; Zech. 14; Mt. 24:29-31; Rom. 11:24-29; Rev. 19:11-21).
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:13 pm
I can't tell ya'll how much I enjoy these posts. Lately , I've been having trouble focusing so need these . Thanks so much.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:40 pm
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I can't tell ya'll how much I enjoy these posts. Lately , I've been having trouble focusing so need these . Thanks so much.
I promise you that focusing ain't gonna' get any easier for you either. I am a few years older than you so I can for sure tell you that its downhill for you from here on out.
Scarz, we still have a problem with Ezekiel 38, not with the Armageddon angle, but the "bring you back" passage. Obviously, if you are brought back, you have already been there one time before. Revelation 20 is definitely after the 1000 year reign of Christ and is directed at the saints of Christ but Ezekiel 38 does not contain the same language or information,
Unfortunately, a lot of our confusion is caused by books that we read that etched wrong info onto our brain cells. Not taking into account ALL scripture on a subject is the culprit on many of our mistakes in figuring out end time events and just a helluva' lot of misinfo from the twisting of scripture trying to justify the false doctrine of a pre-trib rapture. Saints will be jerked out of here but only right before the return of Christ, at the last or 7th trumpet and the wrath of an angry God is unleashed on the earth.
I'll stop because I spent a couple hours in my chimney this afternoon and my old crippled butt contorted around trying fix the draft for our wood heater. The house got smoked up this weekend due to poor draft caused by a strong wind causing a down draft. I had to seal it off and my fumbling old hands,legs and neck had very little room to work. Its fixed but it is not certainly not an engineering masterpiece and will probably have to be done again this spring. When you do things when you are young, you need to keep the aging process in mind if you think it may need to be done again in the future
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:46 pm
We watched a video that Judy sent us yesterday and my wife asked me a question that made me think and rethink the whole mark of the beast thing. There is a lot of teaching on the subject that does not include allof the scripture pertaining to it. A mark in scripture does not actually have to be a visible mark. I think we should look very closely at Cain and the mark that God placed on him to see a prototype of anti-christ and the mark.
My wife asked me if the mark in the forehead was a form of mind control and it got me to thinking brain hurting things. The passage reads that the mark would be placed in the forehead which would indicate that it would be retained by the brain in memory or it would be some type implant that interacts with the thought process. I am not discounting the idea of an implantable chip of some sort or trying to argue against a physical object like a nanobot, but I am looking at this from a slightly different altitude to try to make all scripture align.
The false prophet does something to make people want to take the mark: 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
If I am dissecting this properly, this will be an identifying technology that will not let people buy or sell so we cannot buy food,heat out homes, and all of the other things that go with the economy. What about mind control or as its known now, "mass formation psychosis." I have witnessed this firsthand with my first cousin,Wanda. Wanda will never be a member of Mensa but she is smart enough to know better. This virus crap and the vaccine abomination has caused her to become scared of everything. She is a mask-wearing tripled jabbed zombie who believes what she is told by the media and her brother who is employed by the healthcare industry. If there is a call for a 4th,5th,6th booster, she will get in line to get them, and if her doctor told her to eat a dog turd per day, she would be over here following my dogs, Mattie and Cam, with a scoop. That is a subtle form of brainwashing. I'll eat my horse paste once a week and use extreme discernment.
In Judy's video, video it focused on video games and how they were programming kids. Well, we all knew that but what about adults? Is the media our video game? Are the subliminal messages actually overt messages that cause us to rethink our positions? The mark of the beast is tied to finances as laid out in verse 17, plain as day. Now, was a trial run just attempted to gauge the pushback? Remember the threats of not being able to shop or dine due to not being jabbed? The vaccine passports threats? Get the jab or lose your job? You see how it was "caused" and not really forced? If a person is under the spell of "mass formation psychosis" they will just blindly take a jab or whatever. If this is a voluntary acceptance, as I think, and if its tied to finance, then what would make people take it? There are so many variables here that I won't even try to cover them because you get the picture.
During the recent Plandemic, did you see how the banks operated. Around here, they basically shut down except for drive throughs. The same for eating places,stores,etc. They followed the "guidelines" set for them and the sheep followed right along.
I am just thinking and certainly not pushing the idea of a mind-control only mark. With the advance of nanotechnology I don't think its beyond the realm of possibilities that an injectable carbon based computer could be put into a vaccine and deliver to the bloodstream,a nanobot that could attach itself to the body, particularly to the brain, and interact with the body to change DNA. I just don't see that being what happens.
The right hand seems to indicate the strong hand, the favorite hand, as Christ sits at the right hand of the Father. It would seem to indicate that the works of those with the mark, as well as the preferred alliance would be what this would be. So, if a person is under mind control,"mass formation psychosis" and the results are that he chooses the world system so he/she can buy or sell purely out of fear,politics or many other reasons, could this be the leading into that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCAE4ub45m4
In the above video, go to the 54 minute point and listen to it for a while.
I do think, in my limited ability to do so, there will be a physical mark consisting of a chip or some type nanotechnology implant that will be involved. The advancement of the spiderweb of deceit contained in technology allows me to chew on many types of possibilites of the mark, but brainwashing HAS to be a part of it, just based on the Plandemic game plan and all aspects of it. I suspect that there will be a DNA based theme to it and I base it on verse 18 of Revelation 13 and maybe I will go into tomorrow if I don't forget.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:34 am
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Scarz, we still have a problem with Ezekiel 38, not with the Armageddon angle, but the "bring you back" passage. Obviously, if you are brought back, you have already been there one time before. Revelation 20 is definitely after the 1000 year reign of Christ and is directed at the saints of Christ but Ezekiel 38 does not contain the same language or information,
When you get some free time and feel like it please lay out your complete thoughts on what you have brought up in the quote above.
Yes, that's the reason I brought up Revelation 20 and it speaking of Gog and Magog.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:54 am
Well, hells bells, Scarz, your post came up right after I finished my ramblings
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:38 am
I think of it Michael much like The Walking Dead (Zombies). As Revelation is very clear, those who receive The Mark even as they may be alive they are already dead. Salvation is no longer possible for them. Spiritually they are dead, the seal is placed on them. Every time I think of this I can't help but think of the only sin there is no forgiveness for.....Blasphemy of The Holy Spirit (The unpardonable sin). There is no doubting The Mark of The Beast is an unpardonable sin, that if it is obtained there can be no turning the clock back and receive The Pardon of Jesus Christ.
How does the False Prophet deceive those into receiving The Mark?.....Revelation 19:20......."And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone."
The miracles The False Prophet preforms is how he is able to deceive those into receiving The Mark of The Beast. The False Prophet never forces The Mark upon anyone. It's all a choice, just like Eve chose to reach out and "Take and Consume" the forbidden fruit that the old serpent offered.
Eve chose to believe the old serpent over The LORD. These wise words hold the truth....."No man can serve two masters."
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:53 am
Ezekiel 39:7........"My holy name I will make known in the midst of My people Israel; and I will not let My holy name be profaned anymore. And the nations will know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel."
Ezekiel 38:19-20
For in my jealousy and in my blazing wrath I declare, On that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel.
The fish of the sea and the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep on the ground, and all the people who are on the face of the earth, shall quake at my presence. And the mountains shall be thrown down, and the cliffs shall fall, and every wall shall tumble to the ground.
Ezekiel 39:8........"Behold, it is coming and it will be brought about, declares the Lord GOD. That is the day of which I have spoken."
Ezekiel 39:22........"The house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God, from that day forward."
Ezekiel 39:29........"And I will not hide my face anymore from them, when I pour out my Spirit upon the house of Israel, declares the Lord GOD."
Zechariah 12:9-11
And on that day I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.
On that day the mourning in Jerusalem will be as great as the mourning for Hadad-rimmon in the plain of Megiddo.
Ezekiel 38:16-17
You will come up against my people Israel, like a cloud covering the land. In the latter days I will bring you against my land, that the nations may know me, when through you, O Gog, I vindicate my holiness before their eyes.
Thus says the Lord GOD: Are you he of whom I spoke in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel, who in those days prophesied for years that I would bring you against them?
These verses are the main focus of Joel Richardson's video I will post below. These are the reason he believes Gog is The Antichrist and The Gog and Magog war is the same war as Armageddon. I have studied these verses before and believe Joel makes a very strong case. When you have time watch the video and he will lay out more detail on the subject. Joel just touches on the subject of Revelation 20 and makes a point of it being the focus of his next video.
I'm going to underline and highlight some of the main points in the verses above he is focusing on.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:22 am
When Does The Battle of Gog Magog Happen?
This is where Joel Richardson lays out his thoughts on Revelation 20 speaking of Gog and Magog. Joel puts it as a recapitulation of the past as I was pointing out in an earlier post on the subject.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:02 am
This statement you wrote Michael below I believe is very true. They take scripture and must come up with something to attempt to make it fit into their pre-trib view. I really hate having to say it, but the vast majority of the pre-trib teachers and preachers are not preparing people for what is on the horizon. I fear the view of at a snap of a finger and we are out of here before the big dog enters the arena will bring about many to fall away and be devoured by the big dog.
Michael371 wrote..... a helluva' lot of misinfo from the twisting of scripture trying to justify the false doctrine of a pre-trib rapture.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:16 am
Its hard to put the words in place when it comes to Ezekiel 38-39 and Revelation 20. When you are not sure of what you see, its hard to form a coherent explanation of what you think you might be looking at.
As of right now, the 10 nations mentioned in Ezekiels war are all muslim nations and the Lord fights against them, wins, then establishes his throne and rules with a rod of iron for a thousand years after casting the devil in a holding cell of sorts. Revelation 20 talks of turning him loose after the 1000 years are over and the devil regathers those MUSLIM nations. They are destroyed and the devil is thrown into the pit of hell forever, so its pretty plain that the events of Ezekiel and Revelation 20 are not the stories of the same event.
To me, the key is MAY be in Ezekiel 37 and 40-48, the joining of the two sticks and temple construction. The two sticks, in my opinion, are the nations of Northern Israel and the Southern kingdom of Judah. I am one that is convinced that the 10 "lost tribes" of the Northern kingdom of Israel never returned after the Assyrian captivity. Flavius Josephus, the Jewish historian, said that they did not return and were absorbed into the nations and scattered to the point that they lost their identity. Were they regathered into what we know as the church? Those that were divorced by God out of the marriage covenant? The term "Gentile" simply means "out of covenant/separated." I do think that this is the case. Is the catholic church part of this. All I can say is that it will be surprising since they worship the sun( even if they don't know it). The Muslims are moon-worshipers who use the pagan symbol of the crescent moon on their flags and mosques.The ultimate war of Christ verses the world religion of paganism.
Now Magog was a grandson of Noah, the son of Japhath, who settled in the north of Israel which we know to be TURKEY, the home of the Ottoman Empire and a nation that used to be tolerate of Christianity not now, not so much. Turkey is a shaky member of NATO at the moment and rumors of a possible alignment with Russia have been circling for a while. While Russia claims to be a "Christian Nation" it is Eastern Orthodox which is just a shitbird version of Catholicism. The bible says that the anti-christ is from a land to the "uttermost" north of Israel. The word uttermost is a key word to figuring this out. We use the word to express an example of extreme, but what if it means "directly" in this case? This what Strongs has to say about the word and what it could mean: end (56x), ...part (7x), edge (6x), border (3x), outside (3x), utmost (3x), uttermost (3x), coast (2x), quarter (2x)
I am taking some liberty to here to assume that it means direct/edge/border and that would be what we know as Syria and Turkey. That would indicate that the anti-christ/Gog would come from that area of Turkey, which interestingly enough, is also contained into the area of the Selucid Empire from which came Antiochus Epiphanes the IIII.
It appears to me that the Islamic nations attack Israel, the Lord returns, kills and subdues the religions of the world, establishes a 1000 year reign, and the Islamic nations attempt a coup at the end of the thousand years after Satan has been loosed. I am fairly certain of this.
The hooks in the jaws and "turn thee around" in Exekiel, I think, can be explained by Psalms 83 which may be the first incursion against Israel which fails and then they regroup with the 10 nations. But, that just speculation on my part. The first incursion is when anti-christ comes on the scene after people mistake the war of Psalms 83 for the Ezekiel war. I think the scriptures align for this to be a real possibility
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:18 am
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I am taking some liberty to here to assume that it means direct/edge/border and that would be what we know as Syria and Turkey. That would indicate that the anti-christ/Gog would come from that area of Turkey, which interestingly enough, is also contained into the area of the Selucid Empire from which came Antiochus Epiphanes the IIII.
After much study on this I think it's much more logical than a Western European Antichrist. Now The False Prophet is a completely different story. This beast doesn't need to fit in a specific location, other than somewhere "Rising Out of The Earth".
Revelation 13:11........"Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon."
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:20 am
The Day of the Lord in Isaiah 13:9-10
Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
The Day of the Lord in Joel 2:30-31
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
The Day of the Lord in Matthew 24:29-30
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
The Sixth Seal is Opened Revelation 6:12
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:11 am
For Bordercollie but anyone is welcome to watch these dogs do their stuff. I sure do wish we could embed these twitter videos sometimes. See it at the link. Tad over a minute to watch.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:17 am
There are things that have , are, and will occur that should open our eyes to the past, present and the future. The Pope has had Islamic prayer in The Vatican, he also has been to prayer in Islamic Mosques.
The Pope is a huge pusher of uniting The World into A New World Order. Not only a government of a World Order but also a World religious interfaithism. Really all this comes down to is getting ALL the little gods to stop fighting among themselves......."Think about it and let it sink in."
The idea is that religions are serving (worshipping) the very same, one and only supreme god. I've got to admit they are riding in the very same boat and have been......"The Captain of the Boat is the god of This World (The Adversary, Satan). They may be influenced by many little gods but The Adversary is stirring The Big Pot.
The ultimate goal past, present and future are the sheep. How does The Adversary draw the sheep away from their Shepherd and into the boat?
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:08 am
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For Bordercollie but anyone is welcome to watch these dogs do their stuff. I sure do wish we could embed these twitter videos sometimes. See it at the link. Tad over a minute to watch.
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:17 am
One idea of how its done Scarz, is depravity that leads to insanity. The insanity turns into actual possession. Just look at how our country is divided politically. The left turns violent at a drop of a hat and anything right or good turns them into rabid animals. They will gladly accept a new age bastardized religion of islam and catholicism that persecutes any form of true believers. That comes complete with false miracles performed by the false prophet
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:42 am
I believe with all my heart that the most important thing for "Believers" is to WATCH. Jesus Christ spoke on this many times that we are to stay awake and never give up and remain watchful. We are to always be looking for the signs.
Revelation 16:15........"Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth , and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."
"Keeping his garments" is all about not giving up, staying strong in the faith, not letting the darkness of The World consume us and we lose our faith and fall away from the truth.
We should always be mindful of words that have been spoken about the last days how scoffers will attempt to draw believers away from the faith. This is something we see and hear all the time. These scoffers are trying to get believers to stop watching and fall in line with The World.
2 Peter 3:1-4
This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
Believers are not in darkness that THAT DAY should overtake us as a thief. Only those of The World, those in darkness will be overtaken.
1 Thess 5:4-5
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
What does Jesus Christ say to "Believers" that WILL OCCUR if they do not watch?
Revelation 3:3........"Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."
Mark 13:37........"And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."
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Subject: Re: The Bible,Ancient Text and The Spiritual World Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:18 pm
Is this demonic possession? I found the same short video in the article on BitChute but do go see that article as well. Watch this woman’s eyes change when the action starts or am I just seeing things? Turn sound on too. This is just to creepy for words.
You tell me???? I do believe that possession is a real thing and we'll be seeing more of it soon enough.
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WATCH: Border Patrol arrests woman for human smuggling and she starts GROWLING at them written by J.C McCallum February 8, 2022